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| Quote Odemwingie="Odemwingie"I agree, clubs should only be promoted when they are good enough for the league IMO. This would make the league below alot stronger and those clubs would have alot more urgency to better themselves, up untill now we just havn't seen that.
Wigan
Leeds
Saints
Wire
Hull FC
Bradford
Hull KR
Catalans
Hudds
Crusaders
The other 4 can go down the the next league which would only include teams who are good enough to apply for super league.
This would create genuine competition in the league below and more games in super league would be far far better.
Castleford
Wakefield
Salford
Harlequins
Leigh
Widnes
Halifax
Featherstone
Sheffield
Toulouse
This creates two leagues stronger than we have now.
The teams from the league below this would then have to better themselves to get into the 2nd league so they could potentially apply for super league.'"
As Much as i like the idea 
I dont think it would work. Big Teams like wigan and Leeds and saints, would lose out on TV revenue and they won't allow that | | |
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The issue isnt the amount of clubs, its the amount each club contributes to the league. It again comes down to the effort clubs put in to youth development and also the need for expansion.
There is a limit to the amount of players we can take from the heartlands, if we are to have more clubs, then we need more players. We have a very strong heartland where there isnt a great deal of potential for growth in the amateur game. If you look at the amateur game in west yorkshire, cumbria, the areas around Hull and Wigan, you will see a very very strong amateur scene, as strong as any amateur sport in the country.
A huge amount of our players come from these areas, and there isnt a huge amount more than can be squeezed out of there. We need a more national amateur game, and more pro and semi-pro clubs throughout the country to provide pathways to the top for them.
we need to look at the make up of the league rather than the number, in the future there is no reason not to believe this country cant sustain 14 even 20 teams, but we need to get more clubs, in more areas at EVERY level of the game.
If we could replace 2 or 3 heartland teams, with 2 or 3 clubs like quins (from a solely youth development point of view) who have invested and worked with the amateur game to build a whole new pool of players then we can grow the size of the league
as for limiting the amount of players playing, fine, limit it across the board, every player can play a maximum of 22 games across all competitions per season.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"The issue isnt the amount of clubs, its the amount each club contributes to the league. It again comes down to the effort clubs put in to youth development and also the need for expansion.
There is a limit to the amount of players we can take from the heartlands, if we are to have more clubs, then we need more players. We have a very strong heartland where there isnt a great deal of potential for growth in the amateur game. If you look at the amateur game in west yorkshire, cumbria, the areas around Hull and Wigan, you will see a very very strong amateur scene, as strong as any amateur sport in the country.
A huge amount of our players come from these areas, and there isnt a huge amount more than can be squeezed out of there. We need a more national amateur game, and more pro and semi-pro clubs throughout the country to provide pathways to the top for them.
we need to look at the make up of the league rather than the number, in the future there is no reason not to believe this country cant sustain 14 even 20 teams, but we need to get more clubs, in more areas at EVERY level of the game.
If we could replace 2 or 3 heartland teams, with 2 or 3 clubs like quins (from a solely youth development point of view) who have invested and worked with the amateur game to build a whole new pool of players then we can grow the size of the league
as for limiting the amount of players playing, fine, limit it across the board, every player can play a maximum of 22 games across all competitions per season.'"
why is the LEAGUE more important than the sport to you? | | |
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| Quote j.c="j.c"why is the LEAGUE more important than the sport to you?'"
id like to know where you thought thats what i had said? | | |
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| Quote j.c="j.c"but the idea is to progress the game as a whole,not to think about the well being of the clubs that have held the sport back for a hundred years.'"
It's easy to say, but what exactly do you mean by 'progress the game as a whole'? | | | |
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| Quote Trinity Till Death="Trinity Till Death"I don't think it's about the number of teams rather about the number of games. Therefore i'd suggest the league is split into two. An Eastern & Western conference containing 8 teams in each.
East
Bradford
Castleford
Harlequins
Huddersfield
Hull FC
Hull KR
Leeds
Wakefield
West
Catalans
Crusaders
Salford
St Helens
Warrington
Widnes
Wigan
Another (Leigh/Barrow/etc)
Team play those in their conference twice and those in the other conference once rotating H & A each season. It would reduce the games from 27 to 22 (23 if you include Murrayfield). Which would allow geniune space for mid season internationals or even East v West. It should help reduce travelling costs and could even increase crowds as the majority of games within the conference are either derbies or will hugely determine if a side makes the play-offs. Top 3/4 from each conference qualify for Play-Offs.'"
I like that, similar to NFL, you get more teams playing against top sides, the localness will improve crowds for teams like Leigh and Widnes. Everyone's a winner. Can't see any flaws to that. | | | |
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