Quote ="Big Graeme"Ah, now I get your reasons for the personal attacks c020.gif" alt="c020.gif" title="SUBMISSION" /> You assume that I am a Labour supporter, quite wide of the mark. It wouldn't bother me what colour the council was if it supported RL, in fact you might want to check out the colours of Edinburgh council. Now you are grasping at straws, CoM are only allowed so many non-football events a year, they haven't held an even there since the first few months of the stadium opening, it is quite logical to assume they don't want RL when you look at how many high profile events they could have had. FFS, you wanted it played at the end of May, a time when Sky have the footy play offs, theirs and the medias attention will be elsewhere. Have you been to one of these events? Read the thread, if you can't grasp it by now there is no point explaining it. Which stadiums and what tough restrictions? Where have I said they wouldn't? They would day trip at best at worst go for one match. Eh? Unless they have moved the heartlands areas overnight then there is plenty of RL there, you might have to explain this as i am clearly missing something... Is it? You can bang on about the supposed "heartlands" all you like, it is down to the clubs to sort out their own business, they have ignored investment and growth of the game for decades, if they couldn't spread the game a few miles down the road it is their ">problem.'" You are a gobe who does nothing but snipe and never backs up what he says. All I've done is show you up for that. It appears significant in terms of RL what colour politics are involved. Look at Ian McCartney and David Hinchliffe for example and the roots of the game. Now you are talking complete b0llocks about the COM, having failed to back up your pitch argument with anything proof wise at all. Please support with evidence your 'only so many non football' events line. The COM opened in 2002. GB played there in 2004, Take That, Oassis and Ricky Hatton have all put events on there, so you talk . I'll ask you again how many events could they have had but declined? Let's be knowing when the RFL asked and when they said no thanks. Oh so now you are saying Sky would not want to show the event? Remind me again how many stations Sky has, and remind me if SL is played that weekend and shown live on Sky? You said there was wall to wall media coverage of the Magic event, but apart from some promotion by Sky, where else was it really covered? How will this really differ at the end of the month? By your reckoning the RFL shouldn't have any development officers in London or the South, given that the likes of Streatham and Mitcham folded, and if you want to bring it right up to date that the Broncos went pear shaped and Quins RL can't draw the crowds and are massively in debt. Manchester got one shot with Belle Vue Rangers then? What a crock of crap you talk. I'll ask again, how much RL is there of any level in Bolton, Bury, Stockport, Trafford, Manchester? How much amateur in Salford? There might well be Championship 1 sides in Swinton, Oldham and Rochdale, but why not push the sport in the whole region outside of the top tier? If a town like Oldham can produce the quality of player it does from such a small amateur scene, how many more could be produced if work was put in to develop the game across the region? This is one of the reasons cited for the work in London, to increase the player base, but there are very large untapped areas all over the region and across the Pennines. Frankly you talk crap and clearly know jack about the game, preferring instead to proffer falsities to try and snipe and take a pot shot instead of offering anything yourself.

Quote ="Big Graeme"Ah, now I get your reasons for the personal attacks c020.gif" alt="c020.gif" title="SUBMISSION" /> You assume that I am a Labour supporter, quite wide of the mark. It wouldn't bother me what colour the council was if it supported RL, in fact you might want to check out the colours of Edinburgh council. Now you are grasping at straws, CoM are only allowed so many non-football events a year, they haven't held an even there since the first few months of the stadium opening, it is quite logical to assume they don't want RL when you look at how many high profile events they could have had. FFS, you wanted it played at the end of May, a time when Sky have the footy play offs, theirs and the medias attention will be elsewhere. Have you been to one of these events? Read the thread, if you can't grasp it by now there is no point explaining it. Which stadiums and what tough restrictions? Where have I said they wouldn't? They would day trip at best at worst go for one match. Eh? Unless they have moved the heartlands areas overnight then there is plenty of RL there, you might have to explain this as i am clearly missing something... Is it? You can bang on about the supposed "heartlands" all you like, it is down to the clubs to sort out their own business, they have ignored investment and growth of the game for decades, if they couldn't spread the game a few miles down the road it is their ">problem.'" You are a gobe who does nothing but snipe and never backs up what he says. All I've done is show you up for that. It appears significant in terms of RL what colour politics are involved. Look at Ian McCartney and David Hinchliffe for example and the roots of the game. Now you are talking complete b0llocks about the COM, having failed to back up your pitch argument with anything proof wise at all. Please support with evidence your 'only so many non football' events line. The COM opened in 2002. GB played there in 2004, Take That, Oassis and Ricky Hatton have all put events on there, so you talk . I'll ask you again how many events could they have had but declined? Let's be knowing when the RFL asked and when they said no thanks. Oh so now you are saying Sky would not want to show the event? Remind me again how many stations Sky has, and remind me if SL is played that weekend and shown live on Sky? You said there was wall to wall media coverage of the Magic event, but apart from some promotion by Sky, where else was it really covered? How will this really differ at the end of the month? By your reckoning the RFL shouldn't have any development officers in London or the South, given that the likes of Streatham and Mitcham folded, and if you want to bring it right up to date that the Broncos went pear shaped and Quins RL can't draw the crowds and are massively in debt. Manchester got one shot with Belle Vue Rangers then? What a crock of crap you talk. I'll ask again, how much RL is there of any level in Bolton, Bury, Stockport, Trafford, Manchester? How much amateur in Salford? There might well be Championship 1 sides in Swinton, Oldham and Rochdale, but why not push the sport in the whole region outside of the top tier? If a town like Oldham can produce the quality of player it does from such a small amateur scene, how many more could be produced if work was put in to develop the game across the region? This is one of the reasons cited for the work in London, to increase the player base, but there are very large untapped areas all over the region and across the Pennines. Frankly you talk crap and clearly know jack about the game, preferring instead to proffer falsities to try and snipe and take a pot shot instead of offering anything yourself.

Quote ="Big Graeme"Oh aye, I know that and I think it would be fantastic, but you can see the pound signs in Michael O'Leary's eyes at the thought of ">it.'" maybe Barcelona wont be too fanciful in a few years time news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l">news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/8671489.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 671489.stm

Quote ="Big Graeme"Oh aye, I know that and I think it would be fantastic, but you can see the pound signs in Michael O'Leary's eyes at the thought of ">it.'" maybe Barcelona wont be too fanciful in a few years time news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l">news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/8671489.stm">news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 671489.stm

Queen Victoria had the right idea about Birmingham.



Whenever the royal train passed through it she had her servants draw the curtains on her carriage so she wouldnt have to look at the place.



Sadly things haven't moved on a lot in poor old Brum. Some nice little bars down by the NIA and the canal and Broad st is sort of reasonable (and they have a Walkabout!!) but thats as good as it gets.



The best thing about Birmingham is the M40.. heading south.





Cardiff is still the best place for the superleague to host these 'magic' weekends



A weekend in Birmingham would be dubbed the 'Tragic' weekend very quickly. Its not suitable for Rugby League.



Trust your old mate Barry McKenzie on this one.

Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Queen Victoria had the right idea about Birmingham. Whenever the royal train passed through it she had her servants draw the curtains on her carriage so she wouldnt have to look at the place. Sadly things haven't moved on a lot in poor old Brum. Some nice little bars down by the NIA and the canal and Broad st is sort of reasonable (and they have a Walkabout!!) but thats as good as it gets. The best thing about Birmingham is the M40.. heading south. Cardiff is still the best place for the superleague to host these 'magic' weekends A weekend in Birmingham would be dubbed the 'Tragic' weekend very quickly. Its not suitable for Rugby League. Trust your old mate Barry McKenzie on this ">one.'" God; you really do get worse with time, p1ss off! sleepy.gif" alt="sleepy.gif" title="Sleepy" /> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"Queen Victoria had the right idea about Birmingham. Whenever the royal train passed through it she had her servants draw the curtains on her carriage so she wouldnt have to look at the place. Sadly things haven't moved on a lot in poor old Brum. Some nice little bars down by the NIA and the canal and Broad st is sort of reasonable (and they have a Walkabout!!) but thats as good as it gets. The best thing about Birmingham is the M40.. heading south. Cardiff is still the best place for the superleague to host these 'magic' weekends A weekend in Birmingham would be dubbed the 'Tragic' weekend very quickly. Its not suitable for Rugby League. Trust your old mate Barry McKenzie on this ">one.'" God; you really do get worse with time, p1ss off! sleepy.gif" alt="sleepy.gif" title="Sleepy" /> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Quote ="Fully"My thoughts: [url=http://www.lasttackle.com/blogpost_255-magic-weekend-needs-to-stay.htmlClick here[/url Would be intrigued to see what people's thoughts, particularly the last bit. I feel it is something which can only benefit the event and get local schools and organisations ">involved.'" Having the games in seperate stadiums defeats the object IMO. You can't easily watch all the games if you want. Keep it in Cardiff, give it some years to grow. Bring back derbies. Get the clubs to market the tickets to their own fans more. Include the championship teams and have their games on the RU pitch outside. This would easily get another 10-15k to the event.

Quote ="Fully"My thoughts: [url=http://www.lasttackle.com/blogpost_255-magic-weekend-needs-to-stay.htmlClick here[/url Would be intrigued to see what people's thoughts, particularly the last bit. I feel it is something which can only benefit the event and get local schools and organisations ">involved.'" Having the games in seperate stadiums defeats the object IMO. You can't easily watch all the games if you want. Keep it in Cardiff, give it some years to grow. Bring back derbies. Get the clubs to market the tickets to their own fans more. Include the championship teams and have their games on the RU pitch outside. This would easily get another 10-15k to the event.

Bordeaux Stadium would be great for 2012. Chaban Delmas stadium is 33400 seats. 4% (per cent) of the benefit (tickets) for the Council. Gary Hetherington was interested in 2006 (25/7/2006) for an away game. I was present with my camera...Be sure that Bordeaux is the best stadium for the next Magic Week End rugbyman13.rmc.fr/1241/ rugbyman13.rmc.fr/1242/ rugbyman13.rmc.fr/1237/

Bordeaux Stadium would be great for 2012. Chaban Delmas stadium is 33400 seats. 4% (per cent) of the benefit (tickets) for the Council. Gary Hetherington was interested in 2006 (25/7/2006) for an away game. I was present with my camera...Be sure that Bordeaux is the best stadium for the next Magic Week End rugbyman13.rmc.fr/1241/ rugbyman13.rmc.fr/1242/ rugbyman13.rmc.fr/1237/