Are this weeks super league games really major sporting events though?

Quote ="gpartin"Mate if they get kids playing the game from a young age in those areas through development and the like then I'm all for it but you can't just create a team from nothing and expect them to do anything more than just cling on to survival.. I think the scorpions idea is good but the irony is in order for Crusaders to survive they have to get rid of any young local lads and replace them with Aussies, the very thing that will keep them going will kill them in the long run. I think the Welsh could generally get into Rugby League with time but they want at least a few proper Welsh playing or it#ll be seen as a joke so they wont bother.'" /> I think most people would agree with that, Regarding the Crusaders the fact is the do need a bit of "instant success" now to get a decent following going but I do hope in the long run they are a predominantly Welsh team!

Quote ="gpartin"Mate if they get kids playing the game from a young age in those areas through development and the like then I'm all for it but you can't just create a team from nothing and expect them to do anything more than just cling on to survival.. I think the scorpions idea is good but the irony is in order for Crusaders to survive they have to get rid of any young local lads and replace them with Aussies, the very thing that will keep them going will kill them in the long run. I think the Welsh could generally get into Rugby League with time but they want at least a few proper Welsh playing or it#ll be seen as a joke so they wont bother.'" /> I think most people would agree with that, Regarding the Crusaders the fact is the do need a bit of "instant success" now to get a decent following going but I do hope in the long run they are a predominantly Welsh team!

I like gpartin's sentiments but he's so totally misinformed it's untrue. /> And if we're talking about working class, the Welsh are definately that, no offence

I like gpartin's sentiments but he's so totally misinformed it's untrue. /> And if we're talking about working class, the Welsh are definately that, no offence

Quote ="Dico"I like gpartin's sentiments but he's so totally misinformed it's untrue. /> And if we're talking about working class, the Welsh are definately that, no offence'" On what points am I misinformed? I believe 100% that in order for a team to survive and thrive there needs to be a proper infrastructure in place. I believe that the game can do well in Wales but long term I think it will be through the Scorpions rather than the Crusaders and I wonder how many people have been put off in South Wales through the whole Bridgend debacle. /> I am also fully aware that the Welsh are working class and didn't suggest otherwise mate which is one of the reasons I think it has a chance. If there is any evidence to suggest that the venture into London has raised the profile of the sport in any way I'd love to see it Rugby Union fans will look at Harlequins RL in the same way we look at Leeds Tykes, as a poor imitation. I also think that if Union fans were a target in London then using the name of a club which is a rival to the majority of Union fans in London is probably not the best thing to do. /> Rugby League has done well increasing the number of clubs nationwide at a grassroots level over the past few years and things will take time but you can't just plonk a club somewhere and give them free rein to sign as many Aussies as they like and expect them to survive. If the RFL want these clubs to last then they need to be subsidising tickets to get people through the gates, assisting with Marketing and even bunging the teams a few quid to get a few big names on board. When new clubs fail they end up looking stupid.

Quote ="Dico"I like gpartin's sentiments but he's so totally misinformed it's untrue. /> And if we're talking about working class, the Welsh are definately that, no offence'" On what points am I misinformed? I believe 100% that in order for a team to survive and thrive there needs to be a proper infrastructure in place. I believe that the game can do well in Wales but long term I think it will be through the Scorpions rather than the Crusaders and I wonder how many people have been put off in South Wales through the whole Bridgend debacle. /> I am also fully aware that the Welsh are working class and didn't suggest otherwise mate which is one of the reasons I think it has a chance. If there is any evidence to suggest that the venture into London has raised the profile of the sport in any way I'd love to see it Rugby Union fans will look at Harlequins RL in the same way we look at Leeds Tykes, as a poor imitation. I also think that if Union fans were a target in London then using the name of a club which is a rival to the majority of Union fans in London is probably not the best thing to do. /> Rugby League has done well increasing the number of clubs nationwide at a grassroots level over the past few years and things will take time but you can't just plonk a club somewhere and give them free rein to sign as many Aussies as they like and expect them to survive. If the RFL want these clubs to last then they need to be subsidising tickets to get people through the gates, assisting with Marketing and even bunging the teams a few quid to get a few big names on board. When new clubs fail they end up looking stupid.

Quote ="Dico"I like gpartin's sentiments but he's so totally misinformed it's untrue. /> And if we're talking about working class, the Welsh are definately that, no offence'" Nothing like a sweeping generalisation.

Quote ="Dico"I like gpartin's sentiments but he's so totally misinformed it's untrue. /> And if we're talking about working class, the Welsh are definately that, no offence'" Nothing like a sweeping generalisation.

Quins are producing plenty of players, the lowest amount of overseas players in Super League, Crusaders haven't got rid of anybody to be replaced with aussies, the players as they are promoted to first team will be moving to N Wales and it's funny that you mentioned Hull because Hull KR a couple of years ago had almost as many overseas players as Crusaders. No you can't count dispensation players like Lovegrove and Gene, they're still foreign players.