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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"People have been for 120 years.'"
The game appears to be run by people who have very little idea what is happening at grass root levels and have made plans for the future of the game which is widely accepted as an experiment only... many fans do not understand or believe this will work. Time will tell but the amount of fans lost in the process could be catastrophic.
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| Quote Rarebreed="Rarebreed"The game appears to be run by people who have very little idea what is happening at grass root levels and have made plans for the future of the game which is widely accepted as an experiment only... many fans do not understand or believe this will work. Time will tell but the amount of fans lost in the process could be catastrophic.'"
The RFL & BARLA have been apart as long as I can remember. RL was dying because of the lack of promotion & relegation. RL has always innovated & experimented.
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| Quote tigertot="tigertot"The RFL & BARLA have been apart as long as I can remember. RL was dying because of the lack of promotion & relegation. RL has always innovated & experimented.'"
When is the promotion, 2 SL Teams with go down into Championship (tier 2) and five teams from the Championship(tier 2) will go down into Championship 1(tier 3) In my eyes that is all relegation. Can we have this conversation at the end of 2015 please.
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| you forgot about the 1 team to be promoted from Championship 1 (tier 3) to the championship (tier 2)
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| It's the race to the bottom. Welcome to Britain 2014.
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| Quote debaser="debaser"It's the race to the bottom. Welcome to Britain 2014.'"
Tbf there are bottoms and then there are bottoms. I'd reckon some of 'em are worth a race to 
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| Hypothetical situation, but if we used all the SL2 cap on home grown players that would be (£1m / £40K = ) 25 players that could be SL standard. So I would expect in plan B to see a major focus on home grown, keeping what we have and getting back what we can. Leon would be my favourite tho not sure of his contract status with the Dragons.
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| Think he may be OCC this year but, as suggested elsewhere, I think he may well get another gig in SL - and I certainly wouldn't leave somewhere like Canet before I had to..
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| When Leon signed for Catalan it was 2 years with option of a 3rd year.This is his 3rd year there so he will be,unless he's already agreed to stay put, OOC at end of this year.
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| Quote Rarebreed="Rarebreed"When is the promotion, 2 SL Teams with go down into Championship (tier 2) and five teams from the Championship(tier 2) will go down into Championship 1(tier 3) In my eyes that is all relegation. Can we have this conversation at the end of 2015 please.'"
The details are like instructions on Ikea furniture, I get bored before half way & give up reading. I haven't worked out what happens at the end of this season, apart from 2 teams look like they will go down. I doubt it will spoil my enjoyment of RL much. Tweaking of leagues won't change the quality on offer much, it will lead to the bankruptcy of some clubs, not much change there then. Until someone cracks the media nugget RL will stumble along as it has for years.
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| Quote Bulliac="Bulliac"Think he may be OCC this year but, as suggested elsewhere, I think he may well get another gig in SL - and I certainly wouldn't leave somewhere like Canet before I had to..'"
Someone at the club told me he was off to Cas.
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| Quote debaser="debaser"So 1.8million v 900 thousand?
Nice level playing field then...'"
Much closer than 1.8 million v 300 K as it currently is
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| Quote roofaldo2="roofaldo2"Remind me, who won that match?
It's not a question of being able to get promotion due to being poor, it's a question of an uneven playing field meaning the deck is heavily stacked against ANY Championship club being able to gain access to Super League under this foolish system'"
Yes it is heavily stacked, but any more than being completely impossible unless you move a hundred miles south?
Not forgetting it was the SL clubs who have voted this through
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| Quote Bulliac="Bulliac"It's a system devised to retain the status quo whilst giving an impression that movement is likely. Whilst promotion is theoretically possible it is extremely unlikely and we're likely to see fewer promoted clubs than we got under licensing.
The first realistic chance of any team being promoted will be when they change the rules again. Of course, that could be sometime next week.....'"
So how many clubs have been promoted via licencing?
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| Quote pie.warrior="pie.warrior"NOT QUITE........
at the end of the mini league you could have the 4 SL teams in positions 1-4 in the league of 8 and the Champ teams in 5-8 but best placed Champ team in 5th, no matter how many points behind 4th still get to play in a sudden death one off game to decide who goes into SL the following season. So it is like a "cup" game, one bite at the cherry'"
They just wont listen, of course we could just relegate London and the Bulls and shut the trap door completely forever, I'm sure the Bulls fans would be much happier with that
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"They just wont listen, of course we could just relegate London and the Bulls and shut the trap door completely forever, I'm sure the Bulls fans would be much happier with that'"
Who is this "we" that could just relegate teams, and why are you sure the Bulls fans would be much happier with your idea?
To be "happier", you'd have to be "happy" to begin with. Where the fsck would you find these happy Bulls fans? I haven't seen a happy Bulls fan in about 5 years!
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Yes it is heavily stacked, but any more than being completely impossible unless you move a hundred miles south?
Not forgetting it was the SL clubs who have voted this through'"
No, it's not completely impossible. But I'd bet good money that if neither Bradford or London are promoted back into SL at the end of next season, as they're the one's with the parachute payments and most likely to be the ones in the mix, then you won't see any team promoted while this system is in place.
It's simply the RFL's way of bringing back P&R without really bringing it back.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Who is this "we" that could just relegate teams, and why are you sure the Bulls fans would be much happier with your idea?
To be "happier", you'd have to be "happy" to begin with. Where the fsck would you find these happy Bulls fans? I haven't seen a happy Bulls fan in about 5 years!'"
' We ' being the sport of RL
Then its about time you lowered your happiness levels, I'm sure when you start winning again next year and the prospect of replacing Wakey or HKR in SL beckons then some of you will start feeling ' happy ' again, if you dont, then tough, you wont deserve to get back up
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| Quote roofaldo2="roofaldo2"No, it's not completely impossible. But I'd bet good money that if neither Bradford or London are promoted back into SL at the end of next season, as they're the one's with the parachute payments and most likely to be the ones in the mix, then you won't see any team promoted while this system is in place.
It's simply the RFL's way of bringing back P&R without really bringing it back.'"
Fair enough, dump you down with us and shut the door, I'm sure that'll make you delirious
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"some of you will start feeling ' happy ' again, if you dont, then tough, you wont deserve to get back up'"
I think I've found the club's psychologist.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"' We ' being the sport of RL '"
As the Bulls and their fans are part of the sport of RL, "we" don't think so.
Quote Starbug="Starbug"Then its about time you lowered your happiness levels, '"
Difficult not to whenever I see you've posted again
Quote Starbug="Starbug"I'm sure when you start winning again next year and the prospect of replacing Wakey or HKR in SL beckons then some of you will start feeling ' happy ' again, if you dont, then tough, you wont deserve to get back up'"
And what we "deserve" is relevant to getting back up how, exactly? What if we get back up, but due to inadequate happiness levels, don't deserve to? What then? Eh?
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"As the Bulls and their fans are part of the sport of RL, "we" don't think so.
Difficult not to whenever I see you've posted again
And what we "deserve" is relevant to getting back up how, exactly? What if we get back up, but due to inadequate happiness levels, don't deserve to? What then? Eh?'"
Oooh look FA going all ' smokey ' on me
I'd suggest the Bulls change their run out music to ' jilted John ' given the levels of self pity displayed on this board, it really is quite pathetic, so given your fragile nature I'll leave you to it, god forbid any of us mere mortals actually beat the Bulls next year, the skriking we'd hear would be unbearable 
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| No. I think I would need to see peer-reviewed, certified happiness audit data over a 2 year cycle before I could accept any conclusions based on our happiness, or otherwise. Sorry
On the other hand, there is a depression scoring system called PHQ-9 which has widespread use.
Which to use.... 
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"I'd suggest the Bulls change their run out music to ' jilted John ' given the levels of self pity displayed on this board, it really is quite pathetic, '"
Self pity? Nah, you'd be hard pressed to find a more stoic and resilient bunch.
Quote Starbug="Starbug"so given your fragile nature '"
 been called a lot of things but "fragile"? Erm...
Quote Starbug="Starbug"I'll leave you to it, '"
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