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| Quote af="af"3rd, 2nd, 7th (haven't counted the near-relgation season where he took over halfway through) - not massively dissimilar to the last three years.'"
If you are seriously suggesting Foxy as a potential alternative to McNamara then you've missed a couple of achievements out.
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| Quote Asim="Asim"If you are seriously suggesting Foxy as a potential alternative to McNamara then you've missed a couple of achievements out.'"
I was talking about 90s Foxy, but you're right, early 80s Foxy deserves consideration too.
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| Quote 6Iestyn6="6Iestyn6"Shaun McRae'"
Cracking bloke but it doesn't win you matches. He'll be lucky to see out the season at Salford.
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| Well I know I am one of Macca's more 'vocal' detracters but a line has to be drawn somewhere and I for one think we should stop judging him on past performances and give him a clean slate for next season.
Perhaps Mr. Mystic would agree to be gagged on this matter until ten games in when we cann have a moratorium (and a poll of course) to see where he's taking the team
Of course the McBanana will stay in my sig for comic effect but I am also hoping it will be an inspiration to Steve, Semi, Solo and Nero in the coming months. Of course I will be happy to change verses when things start to take a turn for the better.
We have to ask ourselves what expectations we have going onto next season to judge Macca against first though. Even Eddie will agree that silverware is unrealistic so what would people class as success for us next season  For mine a valiant CC semi final exit, top 4 finish and winning at least one game in the play-offs would be a step in the right direction and enough to show McBanana is learning  Oh, and at least 1 win over Leeds would be good, also teams like Wigoon and Saints too 
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| Quote Ancient Provocateur="Ancient Provocateur"
We have to ask ourselves what expectations we have going onto next season to judge Macca against first though. Even Eddie will agree that silverware is unrealistic so what would people class as success for us next season icon_confused.gif: For mine a valiant CC semi final exit, top 4 finish and winning at least one game in the play-offs would be a step in the right direction and enough to show McBanana is learning icon_smile.gif Oh, and at least 1 win over Leeds would be good, also teams like Wigoon and Saints too k020.gif'"
I dont think we'll win anything so performance will be the thing for me. Some definite sign of progression. Competitive matches against Leeds & St Helens. A couple more of the younger players coming through.
3rd place would be decent but that would depend on whether Warry & Wigan can fulfill their potential and Catalans maintain their progress. I doubt if Hull will be as bad this year.
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| Quote Cibaman="Cibaman"I dont think we'll win anything so performance will be the thing for me. Some definite sign of progression. Competitive matches against Leeds & St Helens. A couple more of the younger players coming through.'"
Same here. If we manage that I'll be happy things are heading in the right direction. Silverware is beyond us this year IMO.
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| Quote Bullseye="Bullseye"Same here. If we manage that I'll be happy things are heading in the right direction. Silverware is beyond us this year IMO.'"
I would like to think the CC is a possibility.
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| Quote Ancient Provocateur="Ancient Provocateur"I would like to think the CC is a possibility.'"
depends how they rig the draw this year 
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| The Bulls have got to be more competitive against the bigger sides this year to show progress ... I had this horrible feeling of an inevitable loss very time we played Leeds or Saints last year ... it would be nice to believe we can win a (few?) big games - that to me would be progress.
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| Quote Bulldozer="Bulldozer"The Bulls have got to be more competitive against the bigger sides this year to show progress ... I had this horrible feeling of an inevitable loss very time we played Leeds or Saints last year ... it would be nice to believe we can win a (few?) big games - that to me would be progress.'"
It's only one season ago that we had one thumping win, one draw, a narrow defeat and a Ganson-Klein production against Leeds. Over due a win against them at Odsal, mind.
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| Quote Ancient Provocateur="Ancient Provocateur"
Of course the McBanana will stay in my sig for comic effect but I am also hoping it will be an inspiration to Steve, Semi, Solo and Nero in the coming months. Of course I will be happy to change verses when things start to take a turn for the better. :'"
If you honestly believe that these people read what you think, then it's time for the looney bin I think 
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| Quote af="af"It's only one season ago that we had one thumping win, one draw, a narrow defeat and a Ganson-Klein production against Leeds. Over due a win against them at Odsal, mind.'" IMO that perfectly illustrates that as a club we've gone backwards.
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| Quote redeverready="redeverready"IMO that perfectly illustrates that as a club we've gone backwards.'"
Does that mean we went forwards in 2007 then?
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| Quote af="af"It's only one season ago that we had one thumping win, one draw, a narrow defeat and a Ganson-Klein production against Leeds. Over due a win against them at Odsal, mind.'"
Yes and put that in context - how many times have we played Leeds or Saints in the past 3 years ... I'm no stato but I think it's about 16 times and I can only recall 3 wins.
All I was saying is that for me to have confidence in what the coach is achieving at the Bulls I'd like to feel more confident when we come up against these 2 rivals
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| Quote Bulldozer="Bulldozer"Yes and put that in context - how many times have we played Leeds or Saints in the past 3 years ... I'm no stato but I think it's about 16 times and I can only recall 3 wins.
All I was saying is that for me to have confidence in what the coach is achieving at the Bulls I'd like to feel more confident when we come up against these 2 rivals'"
Which is what I have been saying for long enough. TBH, to expand slightly, it is the big game mentality of McNamara that is in question. Fair enough to say that Leeds and Saints are better than us but Wigan are not neccessarily, Salford in 2006 was a shocker too and it seems that he spectacularly fails when the going gets tough. (CC semi last year, Wigan play-off 2007 for example).
Glad to see you have caught up. 
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| ...takes me a while but I always get there in the end!
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| Quote af="af"Does that mean we went forwards in 2007 then?'" Why should it in 2006 we beat Saints and Leeds once since then it's 1 win in 2 seasons against both of them.
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| Quote Bulldozer="Bulldozer"...takes me a while but I always get there in the end!'"

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| Quote redeverready="redeverready"Don't worry Mystic I'll be ther and I've made the same points as you.'"
..and like everybody else, I'm struggling to see how they'll explain the inept performances we saw last year or what Mr Duffy will get out of this.
Afterall, it isn't yours or my fault that we have a coach who
a) failed to motivate his squad
b) tactically masterminded our worst season for how many years
c) brought in poor signings and then awarded them with 3 year deals (Platt)
d) could only defend his poor tactical choices and game plans by blaming officials
or a club that
a) has failed to acknowledge last year as a failure
b) seems to have no interaction with fans apart from a fans forum
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(This post is tongue in cheek btw, I will be at the fan forum and will also be getting my away shirt next week)[/size
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| Quote redeverready="redeverready"Don't worry Mystic I'll be ther and I've made the same points as you.'"
As you have done throughout RER. It will certainly be interesting to hear what they have to say.
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"As you have done throughout RER. It will certainly be interesting to hear what they have to say.'"
Except I presume to you, since your mind is as closed a book on the subject of the Bulls as a book that has been nailed shut, superglued together and pressed under a ton of concrete. They could get Barack Obama, Billy Graham and Abe Lincoln to speak, it would make no difference to you, so what's the interest?
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Except I presume to you, since your mind is as closed a book on the subject of the Bulls as a book that has been nailed shut, superglued together and pressed under a ton of concrete. They could get Barack Obama, Billy Graham and Abe Lincoln to speak, it would make no difference to you, so what's the interest?'"
Nothing you have got to say certainly.
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| Quote Paul124897="Paul124897"..and like everybody else, I'm struggling to see how they'll explain the inept performances we saw last year or what Mr Duffy will get out of this.
Afterall, it isn't yours or my fault that we have a coach who
a) failed to motivate his squad
b) tactically masterminded our worst season for how many years
c) brought in poor signings and then awarded them with 3 year deals (Platt)
d) could only defend his poor tactical choices and game plans by blaming officials
or a club that
a) has failed to acknowledge last year as a failure
b) seems to have no interaction with fans apart from a fans forum
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e) has turned year on year losses which would have lead to to the bankruptcy of the club into consecutive years of profit.
f) has turned around years of under investment in the youth system.
g) has reduced by almost half the clubs reliance on overseas players.
h) has resolved a disastrous legal dispute with Leeds Rhinos without losing any of our best young players.
i) Has finished in the play offs despite losing 2 out of the 3 best players in the country to our fiercest rivals.
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