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| Quote Beechwood Bull="Beechwood Bull"That's a 'no' then?'"
You seriously thought I was gonna start a campaign? 
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"You seriously thought I was gonna start a campaign?
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No I didn't. I knew perfectly well what you'd do. Nothing.
There are a number of precedents of football supporters organising, raising funds, purchasing shares and gaining a seat on the board. If Hood is the idiot you say then present a simple manifesto in which you could lay out simply the way forward and your experiences of running similar organisations. Suggest a small amount of money each person would have to pay and guage the response. This is a simple and progressive way forward for those not happy with the running of the club.
We clearly don't agree but from the number of posts you make on the matter you feel strongly and are prepared to put time and effort in. I'd also say you are not alone as others agree with you. All I'm saying is act for change. Be progressive and put forward an alternative so everyone can judge it.
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| Quote Beechwood Bull="Beechwood Bull"If Hood is the idiot you say.'"
Now where did I say that Hood was an idiot?
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"icon_confused.gif
Now where did I say that Hood was an idiot?'"
Somehow that was the inference I took from him employing a coach you call 'Macbanana'.
Manifesto?
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| Quote Beechwood Bull="Beechwood Bull"Somehow that was the inference I took from him employing a coach you call 'Macbanana'. '"
Well you are wrong. Just for your info however and to save you getting it wrong again, McBanana is not a term I have ever used. In fact, it was the brainchild of Ancient Provocateur (I think). It is now a widely used term by many but not by me. If Ancient Provocateur did not coin the original term he certainly immortalised it in song - see the McBanana thread. (I am sure that the inventor of the term will make themselves known soon enough)
Better to check your facts before you blunder on eh?
Quote Beechwood Bull="Beechwood Bull"Manifesto?'" Ah, yes. Our new Italian starlet. One for the future I believe. He will feature regularly on the bench next season but will get absolutely no game time whatsoever. 
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Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"Well you are wrong. Just for your info however and to save you getting it wrong again, McBanana is not a term I have ever used. In fact, it was the brainchild of Ancient Provocateur (I think). It is now a widely used term by many but not by me. If Ancient Provocateur did not coin the original term he certainly immortalised it in song - see the McBanana thread. (I am sure that the inventor of the term will make themselves known soon enough)
Better to check your facts before you blunder on eh?
Ah, yes. Our new Italian starlet. One for the future I believe. He will feature regularly on the bench next season but will get absolutely no game time whatsoever.
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viewtopic.php? ... highlight=
About halfway down the page.
How transparent are you?
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Better to check your facts before you blunder on eh?
Ah, yes. Our new Italian starlet. One for the future I believe. He will feature regularly on the bench next season but will get absolutely no game time whatsoever.
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viewtopic.php? ... highlight=
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How transparent are you?
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| Quote Beechwood Bull="Beechwood Bull"viewtopic.php?t=384131&highlight=
About halfway down the page.
How transparent are you?'"
OK, so I [ihave[/i used the term, but in response to the name of the thread.
However, obsession noted.
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"OK, so I [ihave[/i used the term, but in response to the name of the thread.
However, obsession noted.'"
That's OK Mr Clever!
Not sure calling people silly names and then denying it is a quality I'm looking for in the new Bulls Chairman.
Let's hear your other ideas.
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| Quote Beechwood Bull="Beechwood Bull"
Let's hear your other ideas.'"
Had I a realistic aim of becoming a club chairman, maybe I would have some "other ideas". However, I do not and therefore whatever goals I would like to set are irrelevant.
However, just because I do not have a realistic aim of ever becoming the chairman does not mean that I cannot have an opinion on how they are doing the job.
After all, I also reckon that Gordon Brown is a numpty and incapable of running the country but that does not mean I have to justify my opinion by highlighting how I would save the NHS and solve the current international Credit Crunch. 
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| Amazing. Yet again he is "learning". He seems to be learning each week, yet still seems to have no answers. What exactly did he know when he became our head coach?
As for coaching England? Well, the English fans are on a downer at the moment and could probably do with a good laugh. 
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"Blah Blah Blah.
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The same old "name a better person" argument. Why is it that some people feel the need for an alternative to be named rather than accept an opinion that the present man is not good enough?'"
Because they recognise that while it may very well be true that Wayne Bennett could do a better job than Steve McNamara, if Bennett is not interested in the job then it is irrelevant to whether McNamara should stay on. What is relevant is who is out there that the club could realistically attract that could do better. You haven't got an answer and you never have had an answer. When people have had a go, their answers have been laughable - Ellery Hanley, Karl Harrison, people whose careers in RL coaching have given no indication whatsoever that they would do a better job than McNamara. They recognise that sacking your coach without having any idea of a replacement is like jumping out of your boat in the middle of the ocean because the ocean liner that just passed you is much better. Bad news my friend, it isn't stopping, and that looks like a dorsal fin heading towards you.
Quote mystic eddieOf [icourse[/i replacing 75% of the team is more difficult than replacing 50% of it. Even more difficult when you have a coach with a poor record in regards to recruitment.
However. Lets look at Wigan - the side that faced us a couple of weeks before Nobby left....
Ashton, Calderwood, Richards, Vaeliki, Dallas, Orr, Moran, Seuseu, Higham, Hargreaves, Tickle, Fletcher, O'Loughlin
Subs Wilkes, Prescott, Godwin, Jonkers
and the team that knocked us out of the play offs last season...
Mathers, Calderwood, Phelps, Carmont, Richards, Barrett, Leuluai, Fielden, Higham, Coley, Hansen, Bailey, J. Tomkins.
Subs: Paleaaesina, Hock, O'Carroll, Smith
Interestingly, three players played in both games - it seems that Nobby has dealt with his new broom a bit better than McNamara has done. Especially when you consider what they both inherited.'"
This is the same Wigan side that have conceded fifty to Saints and Leeds at home? Got beaten 34-4 by Huddersfield at home? Lost a Challenge Cup semi-final to a side 11th in the Super League table at the time? Finished well below Bradford in the table two years out three?... yeah, they got a fluke win at Odsal last year and a more convincing, albeit video ref assisted one this, but if Bulls had had the same last three years that Wigan have had, you'd still be spitting chips and calling for McNamara's head. I'd say that Noble (your selection for comparison who is, let's remember, the most successful coach in the history of both the club and the game in the Super League era) and McNamara are experiencing similar difficulties in a rebuilding process and are experiencing roughly similar levels of success.
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| Quote af="af"When people have had a go, their answers have been laughable - Ellery Hanley, Karl Harrison, people whose careers in RL coaching have given no indication whatsoever that they would do a better job than McNamara.'"
Hmm.
Two full seasons as a head coach, one SL title win (the team he left went on to be champions the next year too) and one promotion won with a team who finished bottom of their league the year before.
If that's a laughable suggestion for a coach then bring on the laughs.
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| Yeah, Ellery would give us the stability we need. Also, John Monie won the title the year before and now he's been sacked by France he's probably available, perhaps we should go for him.
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are you gonna tell him, or shall I?"[/i
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| I can't believe people still have the energy to continue to go over the same arguments over and over. It has become obsessive in some cases, get a grip!
I expect if we lose a match in the first couple of weeks we can expect a whole new campaign with a brand spanking new poll. I expect it will be the first highlight of the year for some.
It's a new season ahead and whilst I still think we're lacking in certain crucial area's, I do feel we should improve from last year. We're obviously short of a top quality centre, however we're not the only club who has been unable to recruit here, both Leeds and Saints are currently in the hunt too.
I think the key for the Bulls this year is to try improve the consistency week in week out. We need to limit our poor games at Odsal because I fear this year's crowds will have taken another dip. Hopefully some of the pub bar stool and armchair stay away fans will then begin to get behind the team a little. If the crowds dwindle.. we can be sure that the quality on the pitch will continue to also.
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| Quote Bully_Boxer="Bully_Boxer"I can't believe people still have the energy to continue to go over the same arguments over and over. It has become obsessive in some cases, get a grip!
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Considering it is being posted on the McNamara thread, what else were you expecting to see? After all, all talk about the great man has been condensed to this thread so if you don't want to read about it then it is pretty easy for you to stay away from the thread?
Unless, of course, you just thought it would be a good excuse to come on and have a pop for no apparent reason?
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"Considering it is being posted on the McNamara thread, what else were you expecting to see? After all, all talk about the great man has been condensed to this thread so if you don't want to read about it then it is pretty easy for you to stay away from the thread?
Unless, of course, you just thought it would be a good excuse to come on and have a pop for no apparent reason?'"
Yeah, that'd be like having a pop without offering any alternative. How empty headed is that?
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"Considering it is being posted on the McNamara thread, what else were you expecting to see? After all, all talk about the great man has been condensed to this thread so if you don't want to read about it then it is pretty easy for you to stay away from the thread? '"
I don't have a problem reading it.. I am just amazed that a few on here are still carrying it on though. You're all either pretty stubborn and unable to just let things lie or incredibly dull! Perhaps we just need the new season to arrive so we can analyse McNamara's failings or indeed improvement on a match by match basis (I can barely wait!).
Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"
Unless, of course, you just thought it would be a good excuse to come on and have a pop for no apparent reason?'"
At you personally? No my 'pop' was at more than just yourself. Although admittedly I disagree with a lot of your view points or certainly to in my opinion the extremes you take them too. But you're entitled to air those views in the same way I aired my views on this very thread.
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| Quote af="af"Yeah, Ellery would give us the stability we need. Also, John Monie won the title the year before and now he's been sacked by France he's probably available, perhaps we should go for him.'"
Maybe we should, after all what has McNamara done as a coach to suggest he's a better option than Monie?
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| Maybe he is just cheaper?
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| Quote Asim="Asim"Maybe we should, after all what has McNamara done as a coach to suggest he's a better option than Monie?'"
Monie's far too old skool! His days in charge at a top RL club are behind him!
Now if he could come in as a assistant to Mcnamara!
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| Quote Asim="Asim"Maybe we should, after all what has McNamara done as a coach to suggest he's a better option than Peter Fox?'"
Good point. Bring him back (again).
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| Quote af="af"Good point. Bring him back (again).'"
Don't be silly, Fox is from those Northern days that were oh so terrible - after those we should just now be grateful for whatever we have to put up with.
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| 3rd, 2nd, 7th (haven't counted the near-relgation season where he took over halfway through) - not massively dissimilar to the last three years.
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