I've sent one. It only takes a minute. I look forward to my reply on Tuesday or Wednesday!

Perhaps they're focusing all their energies into the badly needed Basketball centre.

We tried that, it didn't work it only served to annoy home and away fans with the stewarding, crap parking etc!

I didn't much like VP. In 28 years of going to the rugby it's the only place where we've had the car broken into. Away fans didn't like it, crowds dropped, we couldn't put on the pre match stuff we did at Odsal for fear of annoying BCFC and there were no visible signs of the Bulls being part of the set up. BCFC fans whinged about the pitch being messed up and generally the relationship between the two clubs deteriorated. In the end I'm not sure whether it was a sustainable option to stay there.



Despite all that if the choice is move to VP or die then we move to VP. As things stand Odsal definitely isn't a sustainable option as a home at present, it's costing the club too much. If the OSV falls through there are going to be some pretty stark choices. I can't see the club having the cash to develop it themselves. Building another stadium elsewhere is a non starter due to the cash factor. The Park Avenue plan mooted in the press is pie in the sky too once you look into the facts behind the press releases.



The main stumbling block to any move to VP would be that the Bulls are still tied into a contract to stay at Odsal until 2018 IIRC. Getting out of that contract would be a crippling expense. We'd have to pay back much of the cash paid to the club by the Council and I don't see many millions lying around. This is ratepayers money so I can't see the Council just letting us off either unless they could get some cash for Odsal that would cancel out that expense.



So at present we're stuck where we are.

ive sent one, would be very suprised if they got back to me, and even more so if they give me a straight answer.

Why are you lot so intent on wasting the time of the good people at Bradford Council?



I mean there is no need for the sporting village as we already have an olympic standard facility at Odsal in the form of RIchard Dunn's





Any way there's no one to read it today as they've all been taken away by Westfield. Currently the gents are playing golf and the ladies are in the spa. Tonight there's a banquet in their honour to say thanks for choosing Westfield - allegedly they may of course be working hard as we all know they do. (does that get me inside the AUP?)



All I'll say on the matter is that my next door neighbour's a free mason

People were just intent on whinging, as for the crowds dropping, It cant have been anyworse than this seasons can it?



I think these are the records. They are not to bad.



Valley Parade



2001 13,000

2002 13,912



=red2003 14,939





And recently at Odsal



2004 13,495

2005 12,786

2006 11,406

2007 11,779



So after 1 year of being back at the dump that is Odsal, our crowds drop to below anything we had at Valley Parade and guess what, it will go down once again this year. They must be still annoyed at the stewarding and parking I guess.



Lets face it, Odsal is a dieing retched old place, that has lost all atmosphere. Folks are tired of the place, I definatley am. People dont want to come to an old bowl in the ground. Watch the game from distance, walk up 40 steps to get a drink, then another 40 to go to the loo. People dont want to stand on cold concrete and get wet through everytime it rains.



Bradford Bulls need a new home.

2003 we were at Odsal.

Yeah I know.

Odsal in its current state is not a long term solution.



A new stadium is probably not a valid option due to cost unless city get on board (which they wont for many reasons well discussed, primary of which is that they have no need to move.)



VP is not the solution in the long term. (for many reasons stated elsewhere, but for a kick off my own pet gripe is that the pitch is not even long enough IMO)



I dont know if the OSV will happen or not, but if it does we do all know its not designed to give us all round roofing and spectacular all singing facilities dont we? (new roof and seating on the popular side and some new admin/training facilities as far as I remember - still no roof on the rooley lane end and a reduced capacity)



But its probably our best hope, which is depressing.



Almost as depressing as this topic whenever it appears.

Its just that the first two years back at Odsal were better attended than 2002 and 2001 at VP unlike wht your stats initially implied.







I agree, I just wish the new home could be on the same patch of land as the old one. i.e. we had a huge amount of cash to bring Odsal up to modern spec whilst retaining the history and character......but we dont, so we cant, so its cr@p.

I don't think you can undermine how bad the stewards were. I saw a saints fan, who did nothing get hit. I was sat with them at the time, and the club themselves were not happy with how it was stewarded

.

Crowds would get worse if we moved to VP, away fan numbers would get worse if we moved to VP. Odsal in its state is no longer viable - but we need to look at making it viable and we need the council to work with us. They are missing out on a huge chunk of money with London having won the Olympic bid it is stupid!

What chunk of money?

The stewards have now improved quite a bit at VP since those days, they are now tolerable.

High class facilities with track, swimming pool etc would lead to an ability to attract olympic teams. Who would pay to use those facilaties. It would also bring money in to the local economy etc. as friends and family would also be staying around with them. With bulls already having what they need at rawdon etc. it would only benefit everyone.

The money we need to get from keighley tax payers to give the bulls a nice shiny new stadium

I think this supposed pot of gold from the Olympics is just that; supposed



There won't be many benefits to reap in our neck of the woods from the London Olympics.

We'll pay for yours if you pay for ours

deal - it should only take a couple of k to transform cougar park beyond recognition

Be nice and we might let you borrow our covered terrace.

that'll just about cover team dugouts. Wont help supporters though

I had a reply from the council today. (not quite 2 days but never mind) Here you go: Thank you for contacting Bradford Council. Please accept my apologies for the delay in my reply. I have forwarded your query to Planning and asked them to reply directly to you. If you need further help regarding this enquiry, please contact planning.enquiries@bradford.gov.uk direct. Kind regards, Lisa Holliday (e-contact) Customer Advisor bdirect Call Centre So if anyone else wants to contect them, email direct to: planning.enquiries@bradford.gov.uk

I had a reply from the council today. (not quite 2 days but never mind) Here you go: Thank you for contacting Bradford Council. Please accept my apologies for the delay in my reply. I have forwarded your query to Planning and asked them to reply directly to you. If you need further help regarding this enquiry, please contact planning.enquiries@bradford.gov.uk direct. Kind regards, Lisa Holliday (e-contact) Customer Advisor bdirect Call Centre So if anyone else wants to contect them, email direct to: planning.enquiries@bradford.gov.uk

Not sure if anyone saw the printed edition of the T&A tonight (the article doesn't appear to be on-line), but there was a two-page spread about a campaign to get speedway included in the OSV. Though I have no interest in the sport itself, I can appreciate that there's a considerable lobby for speedway in and around Bradford, and it might make economic sense to have it on board.



The dispiriting part was councillor Mallinson's contention that it would have to be carefully looked into and costed. Not bad things in themselves, but I can easily see that they would constitute a ready excuse to go back to the drawing board and defer the whole thing for another couple of years [size=34(if something that isn't going to happen can be said to have been deferred!)[/size

I think this article was done by someone who`s not been to the stadium for a while, I mean the speedway bikes would race where exactly, under the Coral stand perhaps? I doubt there`s enough of the old corner left to race properly.



Actually it it might look good, they could put floodlights under the stand and it would look a bit like the Monaco grand prix where they race through tunnels. Another first for Odsal!!

Wan't this considerable lobby turning up in groups of less than a thousand to see the Dukes in their championship winning year?