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| Quote Highlander="Highlander"Looking at the maths, it would seem we have already used the best part of 4 months of next years Club 14 sky money.
The other 13 clubs don't need to cover that if we stay in as club 14. We just have 2/3 of the Sky money of everyone else.
If they had dropped us out then there would have been 8months of sky money to share amongst the other 13 clubs - but it would have been a 13 club comp - which had problems.
If they kept a 14 club comp but invited somone else in - then the other 13 clubs would have had to cover the Sky shortfall for club 14. Because it would have been unfair otherwise.'"
Pretty close there I'd say
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| Quote Bulliac="Bulliac"I would disagree that our immediate survival in SL is critical and suggest that the medium and long term is more important. Please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I don't want us to be in SL next season, I just think the deal should be looked at very carefully.
If the deal means that we are effectively (see Adey's post or today's T&A) going to=#FF0000 be fined over the next couple of years, then it may well mean that we will be put into a position where we are uncompetitive. Obviously, I've no idea as to what sort of finance there is behind the new club, but if it means we are a bottom four side over the next couple of years there are two problems. Firstly, we may find that we will possibly lose our licence as 'offering little to the competition' so get dropped into the championship anyway, and secondly, two years of very poor results is likely impact on support (another reason to refuse a licence) so we would then enter the lower division in a poor state.
IMO there is a very solid argument for considering the possibility of dropping ourselves into the championship. Firstly we would enter the competition in a much stronger position than we would if we were forced into it two years down the line and, presumably we wouldn't be facing the sort of financial penalties to be imposed for entering SL. Secondly, and equally importantly, we would be far morel likely to be successful and retain support in the lower division and could then compete effectively for a licence in two years time and have a much better chance of making a solid start.
Again, I stress I'm definitely not saying I don't want to be in SL next year, because I do, and at the end of the day there is nothing to say the RFL/SLE would impose conditions too onerous for us to play under, after all it would make no sense to save the club and then effectively kill it, but I do think the new owners should take careful stock of the position before just accepting anything to remain in SL.'"
Nobody is being ' fined ' , that would be pretty pointless either way , but you are spending next years money right now , so to drop down now would effectively finish you off , how would you expect to pay off the money ' advanced ' out of £ 90 K per year in the Championships ?
No , SL is what you and the ' bidders ' wanted , that is what you will get , making it work will be the hard part , and you have 18 months to prove it was the right decision , or then you might not have a choice
You will privatley be hoping another ' lesser ' SL club goes pop in the next 12 months , that is your ' get out of jail free ' card
Sad isn't it ?
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"No , SL is what you and the ' bidders ' wanted , that is what you will get , making it work will be the hard part , and you have 18 months to prove it was the right decision , or then you might not have a choice '"
Wrong as ever, no decision as to transferring the existing SL status has been made yet.
Quote Starbug="Starbug"You will privatley be hoping another ' lesser ' SL club goes pop in the next 12 months , that is your ' get out of jail free ' card
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As insulting as it is bizarre. What a ridiculous thing to say. I wouldn't wish ill to any other club, I don't know of anyone who does, and you should be ashamed of that comment.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"
You will privatley be hoping another ' lesser ' SL club goes pop in the next 12 months , that is your ' get out of jail free ' card
Sad isn't it ?'"
No. No No No. That is obscene. I'm actually hoping that RL can now get it's (financial) act together and we were the wake-up call needed for everyone else.
I'm also hoping that if another club gets into trouble, that the same level of support can be offered.
That a bit of oversight can be applied to an administrator if needed.
That funds can be advanced if needed.
With hindsight the only odd thing was purchasing the ground lease (imo) as that does link (excessively) the club & the RFL
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Wrong as ever, no decision as to transferring the existing SL status has been made yet.
As insulting as it is bizarre. What a ridiculous thing to say. I wouldn't wish ill to any other club, I don't know of anyone who does, and you should be ashamed of that comment.'"
Of course it hasn't
I said privatley , and I'm sure you dont , but dont tell me it wouldn't have crossed peoples minds including yours , you are now the current favourites to be replaced in 2015 , pull in the infamous 10,000 loyal Bulls fans per game and you will be safe , only hit 6/7,000 and you're in trouble
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Of course it hasn't
I said privatley , and I'm sure you dont , but dont tell me it wouldn't have crossed peoples minds including yours , you are now the current favourites to be replaced in 2015 , pull in the infamous 10,000 loyal Bulls fans per game and you will be safe , only hit 6/7,000 and you're in trouble'"
Replaced by who? Once you think this through you'll realise why what's happened has happened.
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| Quote M@islebugs="M@islebugs"Replaced by who? Once you think this through you'll realise why what's happened has happened.'"
Depends if big ' Nige ' sticks to his word , that a Championship club will join SL in 2015
Thats what he said
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| Two questions -
How wealthy is OK? Is he wealthy to the extent he can bank role us in the Saints, Huddersfield, Warington way?
Did we ever find out who was behind ABC?
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Depends if big ' Nige ' sticks to his word , that a Championship club will join SL in 2015
Thats what he said'"
Yeah I read that too. Which one?
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| Not quite all done and dusted yet apparently.
[urlhttp://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_10077-rfl-still-waiting-on-new-bradford-owner.html[/url
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| While gazeing at my crystal ball I kept seeing landfill, houses and Valley Parade, but not necessarily in that order.
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| " The RFL Board of Directors will next week to decide whether to grant the new owners membership of the RFL: a decision on which competition Bradford Bulls will participate in from 2013 will be made at a future date. "
Quote The RFL Board of Directors will next week to decide whether to grant the new owners membership of the RFL: a decision on which competition Bradford Bulls will participate in from 2013 will be made at a future date. ="Wooden Stand"Newco => Championship 1.'"
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| If we do end up in Championship1 on tonight's performance we are going to have to strengthen the team. That was a dramatic way to come back down to earth and I think Mr Khan will be checking to see if he kept his receipt!
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| Quote Northernrelic="Northernrelic"If we do end up in Championship1 on tonight's performance we are going to have to strengthen the team. That was a dramatic way to come back down to earth and I think Mr Khan will be checking to see if he kept his receipt!'"
you end up in the Championship1 you are going to end up with a total new team end of
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| Quote snowie="snowie"you end up in the Championship1 you are going to end up with a total new team end of'"
Wow, you surely can't believe that!! Why on earth would that happen??
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| Quote Theboyem="Theboyem"Not quite all done and dusted yet apparently.
[urlhttp://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_10077-rfl-still-waiting-on-new-bradford-owner.html[/url'"
It is. the Board indeed has yet to meet, but as stated in other reports, that is just a formality. mind you if they did say No, that would be interesting as our whipping would be expunged from the record books, as a game involving a non member! can't see it mesen.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"It is. the Board indeed has yet to meet, but as stated in other reports, that is just a formality. mind you if they did say No, that would be interesting as our whipping would be expunged from the record books, as a game involving a non member! can't see it mesen.'"
It isn't.
What the RFL is quoted as having said:
("The RFL Board of Directors will next week to decide whether to grant the new owners membership of the RFL: a decision on which competition Bradford Bulls will participate in from 2013 will be made at a future date."icon_wink.gif
is admittedly non-sequiter, but, what can be fairly deduced, is that the RFL leadership will admit the new Bradford company to membership of the RFL but that they haven't yet worked out which competition the new club will be invited to join for next season. Clearly, it ought to be Championship 1 - but we'll see. This is the RFL after all, not the Scottish Football League.
It would be good, however, for the integrity of the game for Bradford to be made to 'do a Rangers'.
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| It's unbelievable (even by the standards of the RFL) that some buffoons think that a group [ipassed on to the administrator by the RFL[/i won't be regarded a few days later, by the same RFL, as 'suitable' to run a club.  Have the RFL been having all these discussions for a laugh then? Maybe they felt like a break from their routine and called a few blokes in for a chat about where to buy the best coffee near to Red Hall..jesus wept, or he would if he read some the ludicrous junk on the boards.
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| Quote Wooden Stand="Wooden Stand" Clearly, it ought to be Championship 1 - but we'll see. This is the RFL after all, not the Scottish Football League.
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Why? Because Wakefield were made to start in Championship 1?
Or are you suggesting they change the rules as its the Bulls?
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| Quote debaser="debaser"Why? Because Wakefield were made to start in Championship 1?
Or are you suggesting they change the rules as its the Bulls?'"
Amazing that the posters calling for us to have a harsher penalty just happen to be from either keighley, Halifax or Wakefield. Can't imagine why that would be....
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| Whats happened to the Odsal lease? Might have missed it, but is it still owned by RFL or has OK taken it over? Cheers
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| Quote Wooden Stand="Wooden Stand"It isn't.'"
 What he said isn't. is. What you are talking about is something different.
Quote Wooden Stand="Wooden Stand"what can be fairly deduced, is that the RFL leadership will admit the new Bradford company to membership of the RFL but that they haven't yet worked out which competition the new club will be invited to join for next season.'"
There is nothing at all to deduce. That is the 100% clear, well-known, indisputable position. (Except to the other wing of conspiracy theories that I have to contend with, who would tell you that you are talking bollox because the decision to stay in SL has already been made)
Quote Wooden Stand="Wooden Stand" Clearly, it ought to be Championship 1 - but we'll see. '"
Clearly my arrse. You speak for yourself, there is nothing "clearly" about it. There are many issues and arguments for all sorts of scenarios, but the fact that YOU think it should be Championship 1 does not make anything "clear".
Quote Wooden Stand="Wooden Stand"This is the RFL after all, not the Scottish Football League. '"
Is it? Well, thanks. This was a point I'd not considered. Are you SURE we're not a Scottish soccer team? Well I never.
Quote Wooden Stand="Wooden Stand"It would be good, however, for the integrity of the game for Bradford to be made to 'do a Rangers'.'"
Hang on. You just said "This is the RFL after all, not the Scottish Football League". Which is it? Again, just your personal axe to grind. You don't speak for anyone but yourself, though tbf you aren't the first troll to try to draw some ridiculous analogy with the totally different case of Rangers. Would you not think that analogies with the case of other SL clubs that have gone into administration might be more reasonable?
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| Has any other club publicly said they wish to enter Super League in our place in time for the 2013 season?
Are we aware of any other clubs entering the mini-licensing round?
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| Quote M@islebugs="M@islebugs"Has any other club publicly said they wish to enter Super League in our place in time for the 2013 season?
Are we aware of any other clubs entering the mini-licensing round?'"
Unfortunately we will have to enter the fiasco that is being called a mini licencing application,, even though it is just a way that the RFL can try to make themselves look to be fair.
I think we realise that there is absolutely no way that they are going to put the bulls in any lower league, they just don't have the b@lls.
I have read on message boards and newspapers that the bills must remain in superleague because they have 10k plus fans. Well no doubt your mini license will focus on this fact against Fax, Fev and Leigh 2 - 3 k, well that is because the Bulls have the likes ofL
Leeds, Wigan, St Helens etc visiting, whilst the others have Hunslet, York, Dewsbury etc. Also cheap season tickets?
To use this as the reason will be as speculative as your financial plans on the last license application.
I am not saying that Fax is currently ready for Superleague, nut we have to apply or we will be shown to have no ambition, but we all know the outcome already.
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| Quote spanishbob="spanishbob"Unfortunately we will have to enter the fiasco that is being called a mini licencing application,, even though it is just a way that the RFL can try to make themselves look to be fair.
I think we realise that there is absolutely no way that they are going to put the bulls in any lower league, they just don't have the b@lls.
I have read on message boards and newspapers that the bills must remain in superleague because they have 10k plus fans. Well no doubt your mini license will focus on this fact against Fax, Fev and Leigh 2 - 3 k, well that is because the Bulls have the likes ofL
Leeds, Wigan, St Helens etc visiting, whilst the others have Hunslet, York, Dewsbury etc. Also cheap season tickets?
To use this as the reason will be as speculative as your financial plans on the last license application.
I am not saying that Fax is currently ready for Superleague, nut we have to apply or we will be shown to have no ambition, but we all know the outcome already.'"
I agree Fax aren't ready for Super League or even close. Is anyone even slightly more optimistic about Fev and Leigh?
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