That’s the longest loan I’ve ever heard of. Guess he’s really out of favour at Leeds

Yes because he's sh*t.

Chisholm will drop out.

He's only 21 and lets be honest, Leeds haven't helped his development with the DR farce, one week Bulls, then Fev, then Rhinos. He's not a prop who's job is to run and tackle and as hard as you can, he's meant to organise and dictate the team around. Can't imagine its been easy learning 3 different teams moves, as well as getting use to the physicality of first team rugby and just 21 years of age.

In my opinion Jordan will be playing behind a much better forward pack when compared to his last stint at Odsal. He’s also going to be playing significantly weaker teams so he should go well.

You're right he is only 21. And Joe Keyes is 22. We can't be using age as an excuse here.

Kevin Sinfield wasted no time in realising he wasn't the answer to Leeds' halfback problems.



I'm fine with him coming in as a backup half. Trying a new halfback combination on Sunday in the biggest game of our season would be absolute madness and I'd expect better from JK.

Wonder when the Bulls players were told the news of Lilley joining? Also wonder if they celebrated his arrival.....surely JK must have some knowledge we aren't privy to?

Like Lilley, Joe struggled last year, this year he's been a revelation. Lilley shouldn't be chosen ahead of Keyes or Chisholm, but i'll be interested to see how he goes over the next 18 months. Decent back-up half.

Something tells me he's not coming in as a backup.

The news article describes him as a half or hooker. I’m wondering if he’ll take the bench hooker role with Hallas dropping to loose or 2nd row in place of Laithwaite.

This sounds very likely

Great news. We need another halfback for sure to provide cover for injuries and loss in form. Lilley needs regular rugby for the same team rather than chopping and changing. He's certainly good enough for us in L1 and the championship.

Says more about current leeds than bradford for me

Last week I mentioned we could possibly go for Lilly and some thought I was crazy. I am delighted to officially announce that I am not!

I wasn't bashing Chizzy but I have had a feeling about Chizzy that he isn't an organiser.

I come from a generation where there were some halves that were not quick but they managed the pack superbly. This is how I see a good scrum half. I have stood and cheered when Chizzy does a bit of brilliance but then watched the forwards for tens of minutes just plodding forward with little guidance. We then finish with a kick to the wing. We are building a very good pack but they need a general telling them what to do.

Kear himself constantly says we are not playing at our best. I now wonder where he thinks there must be an improvement. There will always be a place for players like Chizzy and Sammut but I would guess that most coaches would rather have a traditional organising scrum half. If you have pace out wide and at 6 plus a big strong and mobile pack you don't need a fast scrum half. You just need a clever one who is the general.

I hope Chizzy doesn't leave but am delighted Lilley is here and hope he can now feel belonged and start to fulfill his real potential. Keyes must now be made full time so there is no desire to move to a championship club when we will soon be one.

Chizzy is a stand out because of the league he is in.



Against better teams he d be nullified. No big queues for his services before remember.



Sorry I forgot Sheffield.....

A slightly strange move on the face of it.





It's true to say we have no 'proper' cover at half, that is to say no 'out and out' halfback, though we have a number of players who haven't let us down when asked to play there. The big question is whether he's coming to be a 'back-up' or a first choice, and to nail my colours to the mast, I don't feel we have a problem with our starting halves - and yes, I know Chissy has blown a little hot and cold lately but he had a bad injury remember and Keyes has been generally excellent. However you look at it we haven't exactly been crying out for a another half, or even an occasional hooker.



That said, JK has made the decision and he knows far more about the background than we do, so we must accept that he knows best.

I am going with the hooker cover with Sam H hitting the 2nd row.



Unless Keyes has committed the cardinal sin of signing for fax next year....

Was Keyes on a 1 or 2 year deal?

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Thanks, So if he was to sign for Halifax they would owe us some ££££?

Wasn't Keyes one of ones on a part time deal ( or am i getting him confused with Minchella?). If so I'd expect theres a release clause if someone offers him a fulltime deal.

Keyes was definitely part time originally. No idea if that's changed at any point though.

Keyes is part time and remains a Bull.

Elliot and Joe are both part time and both in their first year of two year deals

Does this now explain why we are sending Butterworth out on a long loan.

If you could only have Butterworth OR Lilley who would you rather have at this moment and the whole of next season.

I am happy with this today and hope we end up with three top halves as there is always someone carrying a knock or lost a bit of form. I like Lilley and think he just needs to settle at one club and one top coach and he could really shine - but I still want Chizzy and Keys to stay with us long term. Another good day after many years of gloom.