I wonder if I'm "sane and sensible" or "off the wall". Actually don't answer that. I'm as cynical as anyone but it's a positive step openly answering the questions and concerns of the supporters. I agree that's a very modest season ticket total to budget for. But I suppose it's better to have an unexpected amount of income coming your way by budgeting low rather than the opposite.

My question is there, uncensored, about returning my ST after the squad being decimated - they published the question and answer in full

Budgeting for 1000 STs is at least pragmatic. It's nice to know they don't have delusional expectations of the support for next season.



However, I remember Chalmers taking the pragmatic approach in his communications with fans when he first took over and we all know where that ended up.

Yep I've spotted a few of the responses to mine too although not some of the questions (I asked if the bright spark who came up with the idea had scored an own goal following the initial negative response).



I also asked them to be public in their support for a full and transparent independent investigation into the past 7yrs since Odsal was sold.



Not me however asking about Scrambled Egg. Wonder if the originator will come forward?

On a side note, did anyone read Kear's comments in today's T&A. In it he's quoted as saying the fans understand where we are at.



Is he being really serious with that comment as I think he has totally misread the situation. Going by the clubs own ST sales figures we look likely to have lost around 60% of last years members. I think that goes to show that many don't agree as we simply don't know where we are at.



I have to admit I wasnt going to commit to a ST until I started to see this start to unravel (far too murky for my liking) but even I started to sway when the last two new signings were announced.



Right now I don't have a clue whether I will commit or not. I'm more inclined to only go to away games as that way I can still follow the team and get my rugby fix, but at least I know my money isn't going to an ownership group comprising of god knows who!!!

It would be hard to determine one way or the other as to whether the drop in ST is due to change of ground or owners. Probably a mix of both)

My question and reply isn't there. Maybe once they had got rid of all the swear words and corrected my appalling grammar they couldn't be bothered anymore.

I think a certain amount of credit has to be given for the club not massaging the season ticket sales figures.Its only a few weeks ago certain "journalists ""were posting around 1200 had been sold.

Workington Town holding an event on Friday night.Guest speakers Nigel Wood,Adam Fogerty and Eric Perez.Am I the only one thinking it might be a nice idea to actually hold something like this in West Yorkshire when youve finished rolling around West Cumbria gents..Just a thought.

With respect I don't get that last sentence about away games.

Ok, don't buy a ST until we know what is going on but to watch the team that Kear builds and only give money to other clubs bank account - not for me.

Why not go to the home games as pay on the gate and if the club lets you down then stop but if they do turn out to be genuine then you have done your bit to help.

I'm far from sure it's actually possible to understand [ithe fans'[/i opinions, since it's pretty obvious we're all over the place. We've got the "bulls forever" crowd right through to "A pox on all their houses" - and every shade in between. Maybe we should have a referendum? That should clear the air..

52% will say we should leave Bradford despite it being demonstrably INSANE. #politics.

Just out of curiosity, because I have not been in a position to commit to a season ticket, how many times in the last few years have season ticket holders not had any games provided? Value for money eg due to overpricing, or poor quality of the team and the rugby is a different issue eg Chalmers first year. Im still not in a position to justify a season ticket, but I am really looking forward to going to far more games this coming season.

I count 634 seats sold in stand at Dewsbury,incl Premier Club. I have counted at regular intervals (saddo!)and sales have slowed remarkedly in last 2 months. It seems hardly any Terrace tickets sold. Last season around 800 seats sold in main stand at Odsal(count at last home match). All a bit rough and ready but it appears that seats have sold fairly well.

That's despite too much unnecessary negativity on the Forums and the Club itself who must be using the same P R Firm as Prince Andrew!!





If JK comes up with 3 or 4 more quality signings among the 6 required that will help sales!

Morning all

Ive had about 6 weeks away from here as a result of the Nestegg situation. However ive checked back over the last few days and havnt seen any post from him.



Is it safe for me to return permanently?

RB, you can always press the IGNORE button on anyone you don't want to hear from - though that doesn't stop other people quoting them, of course...

That was the the issue Bulliac. There wasnt any way for my to totally aviod those posts so i thought it best to remove.my self rather than constantly getting wound up and biting.



Like i say ive checked back in over the last few days and it seems like things have moved on so i thought id return.

Any way now im back ill try and add some value so here goes.



I found the 731 season ticket number quite alarming so it prompted me to do another recount of all the seating tickets that have been sold. I did this a couple of months ago and posted my findings so ive repeated the exercise.



As of Weds night, of the available 1196 seating tickets, 670 have been sold. This obviously means only 61 standing tickets have been sold.



Whilst ive no reason to doubt the numbers i find it astounding if not totally incomprehensible that only 61 people have bought standing tickets. Surely more people than that have bought them?



Would it be beyond the realms of possibility that the club are actually under stating the number of tickets sold?

All the sh*t we've been through this off season and Betfred still have us at the same odds as Halifax to win the league

Didn't realise Halifax were in such a state.

Not really sure about the figure being "alarming", though I can see where you're coming from. Given that we're moving out of the city, had a financial 'situation', been in special measures, we've not signed many players but lost a lot, and then we got the lottery fiasco and even JK has referred to Chalmers' financial running of the club in a pejorative manner according to a story in the T&A etc etc… With all that to contend with it's not really a shock, imo.



I'd imagine that many will be 'holding off' until they see how things turn out and to be honest I expect many will take the plunge and buy tickets, or if they feel travelling to Dewsbury is not something they fancy every fortnight some may well pay on the gate when they feel like the journey. We maybe need to take stock when the 'early bird' ends - though, of course, that date could be elastic. I'm not trying to talk it up. It is, or will be, serious if things don't turn round but I find it hard to be surprised, to be honest.

I think the problem is that these days you need to basically go to every match to gain any benefit from a Season Ticket. And I would guess that a lot of people either feel less inclined to do that - or are just unable to do so with any certainty.



Back when ST's were much cheaper, there was real value - and even when you maybe had to miss an odd game, it didn't really matter because you were still saving. Obviously that got us into financial problems, but it still made people more likely to buy one, surely. I know that was the case for me.



Perhaps the switch to Dewsbury just means that more people are going to be able to get to every game, and will just pay on the gate. The shenanigans over the close season won't have helped either.

I would hope that they acknowledge the fans right to be cautious, and offer after X games into the season (where x is greater than one but less than twice the number you first thought of) a part deal such as 6 games for the price of 5 . No idea what the technology at the Dewsbury gates would allow such as bar code scanning, so dependent on that so its a secure deal for them. seems like a good one to ask them on the Talk the Talk then Walk the Walk Q n A thingy.

LOL on the Fax odds, shame FA isn't here to appreciate and commentate on them. Gulp, err,,, big gulp..... how I miss him. Please come back FA, I was wrong about everything and you were so so right.

I'm sure the big take up of seats initially will have been people thinking the stand will get full. Also to get a decent view you really need to be a few rows back so less to choose from. If you're standing there is no rush to get one until the deadline...