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For all we know Front Row Grizzly might be Nestegg in disguise.
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Quote ="Downbutnotout"For all we know Front Row Grizzly might be Nestegg in ">disguise.'"
People lying on the internet? I find that hard to believe....
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Quote ="Downbutnotout"For all we know Front Row Grizzly might be Nestegg in ">disguise.'"
People lying on the internet? I find that hard to believe....
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Downbutnotout - I can assure you I'm just a fan of many years, both of the club and of the sport. I've loked into forum from a distance for yonks, but though i'd join and put in my penny's worth. hope you don't mind.
I and a few similarly minded mates have watched very closely as the club has gone from one weird failure to another and constantly thought WTF at each reinvention.
All I can say is that I have a 'no smoke without fire' feeling about the nestegg group that just won't bugger off. Perhaps the eggers are on to something, perhaps they are not.
I do get a strong feeling that with the latest ownership something is 100% wrong. We always buy season tix and go to all away games, but this year we ain't bothering as it all stinks. The inclucion of certain individuals is defo wrong for starters. That's a fact most of us can agree on.
If the eggers are proved to be correct in their points then we are heading for a very sad day and I seriously hope not. They appear to be persistent in their line and haven't really deviated. That may be one reason why looking over the posts the trend has definitely shifted to their point of view. I think we are probably all lacking a bit of patience. I for one are doing my best to stay calm through yet another sh%tstorm but if it takes a cloudburst to flush out the sewer maybe it might not be a totally bad thing. If eggers are wrong then we plod on under another ownership that plenty are not trusting of right now.
As they keep saying watch this space. I just hope we don't have to wait too long either way.
i won't reply to another troll like abuse message - suggest instead we have a more sensible and intelligent debate. If u dont agree with the eggy's well worded points then explain in detail why you or others think they are wroong. OK.
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Its easy for Chalmers to write off his six figure debt to Nigels new club, as it was Nigels Money that set up Chalmers and Lowe in 2017, no matter how much of a big cute cuddly Maori Teddy bear he is he wouldn't and nobody would just "write off" a six figure sum.
Why do you think big Nigel has been sat at most Bulls games since 2017 at Chalmers side?
The whole situation stinks, and the way the "club" are trying to extinguish any questioning of whats going on by saying it has already lost investors for them is laughable as what hard nosed financial backer with stacks of business acumen is put off by some nasty words on Bulls Facebook forums and twitter.
Perez will be gone after XMAS and RHP will be wheeled out as the new messiah and saviour, even though he has had a hand in the last 3 failures.
The Bulls situation and its handling since admin 1 is perverse, we have been passed around from 1poor owner (=#FF0000you can't say that mate - Bulliac) to another like the Armley cell block bi@ch
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| Quote ="Front Row Grizzly"*guff*'"
Why have you changed accounts? It's quite clear from the writing that this is someone who has previously posted under the "nestegg" name. Most people on here aren't as gullible as you seem to think.
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its like Guess who Dilligaf...are you Stuart Duffy?
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| Quote ="bowlinboy"its like Guess who Dilligaf...are you Stuart Duffy?'"
Considering I haven't exactly hidden my criticism of the club in recent years, I think if I was Stuart, I'd have been sacked years ago! Although I confess, I never quite understand the level of abuse he seems to get from some Bulls fans. It's either from people who obviously know more about a situation than I do, or the opposite and they actually don't really know what he does but he's a recognisable figure that's an easy target. He's always been right with me to be honest. |
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Quote ="bowlinboy"Its easy for Chalmers to write off his six figure debt to Nigels new club, as it was Nigels Money that set up Chalmers and Lowe in 2017, no matter how much of a big cute cuddly Maori Teddy bear he is he wouldn't and nobody would just "write off" a six figure sum.
Why do you think big Nigel has been sat at most Bulls games since 2017 at Chalmers side?
The whole situation stinks, and the way the "club" are trying to extinguish any questioning of whats going on by saying it has already lost investors for them is laughable as what hard nosed financial backer with stacks of business acumen is put off by some nasty words on Bulls Facebook forums and twitter.
Perez will be gone after XMAS and RHP will be wheeled out as the new messiah and saviour, even though he has had a hand in the last 3 failures.
The Bulls situation and its handling since admin 1 is perverse, we have been passed around from 1 crook to another like the Armley cell block bi@ch'"
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Why do you think big Nigel has been sat at most Bulls games since 2017 at Chalmers side?
The whole situation stinks, and the way the "club" are trying to extinguish any questioning of whats going on by saying it has already lost investors for them is laughable as what hard nosed financial backer with stacks of business acumen is put off by some nasty words on Bulls Facebook forums and twitter.
Perez will be gone after XMAS and RHP will be wheeled out as the new messiah and saviour, even though he has had a hand in the last 3 failures.
The Bulls situation and its handling since admin 1 is perverse, we have been passed around from 1 crook to another like the Armley cell block bi@ch'"
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| Quote ="bowlinboy"Its easy for Chalmers to write off his six figure debt to Nigels new club, as it was Nigels Money that set up Chalmers and Lowe in 2017, no matter how much of a big cute cuddly Maori Teddy bear he is he wouldn't and nobody would just "write off" a six figure sum. '" Generally sports club owners just leave the debt there with no intent of calling it in - but when they are looking to get rid of the club they often write it off. e.g. Dave Whelan at Wigan, Paul Caddick at Leeds RU.
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Does anyone think the Perez statement is slightly contemptuous in its tone?
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| Quote ="DrFeelgood"Does anyone think the Perez statement is slightly contemptuous in its tone?'"
Would not use that exact phraseology TBH. We'd more refer to the statement, well at least the one in today's League Express, as being factually incorrect, and rather embarrassing and/or desperate. Moreover, his figures re cost savings per Dewsbury BB home game when compared to hosting games at Odsal are utter bunkum.
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If the eggers are proved to be correct in their points then we are heading for a very sad day and I seriously hope not. '"
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Quote ="bowlinboy"its like Guess who Dilligaf...are you Stuart Duffy?'"
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Quote ="Bulls4Champs"But Nesteggs say they're ready to head up a consortium to brin back the glory and let the good times roll ">again.'"
Do you want to be our consortium campaign manager mate?
Long way to go yet, but we are getting there. We were at City Hall again today, and will be back again shortly. We were in part discussing the upcoming latest Bulls scandal.
We will also soon be meeting with other influential local politicians.
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Quote ="Bulls4Champs"But Nesteggs say they're ready to head up a consortium to brin back the glory and let the good times roll ">again.'"
Do you want to be our consortium campaign manager mate?
Long way to go yet, but we are getting there. We were at City Hall again today, and will be back again shortly. We were in part discussing the upcoming latest Bulls scandal.
We will also soon be meeting with other influential local politicians.
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Quote ="nestegg"Do you want to be our consortium campaign manager mate?
Long way to go yet, but we are getting ">there.'"
You must be Talking Heads fans ....................... Road to Nowhere!
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Long way to go yet, but we are getting ">there.'"
You must be Talking Heads fans ....................... Road to Nowhere!
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| Quote ="Blotto"You must be Talking Heads fans ....................... Road to Nowhere!'"
Looking at some of your recent posts mate, may we respectfully say that it's no wonder you appear to be permanently Blotto.
We also sincerely hope that you are not in any way becoming addicted to Nigel Wood's magic mushrooms. In that regard you join many BB fans who have we aver sadly been 'kept in the dark and fed on BULLS(HIT)' for many a year.
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Having re-read the predominantly utter tosh in yesterday's League Express re the Bulls we have four additional open messages to Nigel Wood (and of course his family and PA's etc), Eric Perez and Mark [i[size=85(why ever did I allow Chalmers to allegedly owe me a high five figure gambling related debt)[/size[/i Sawyer:
1) We do not for one second belief that Andrew Chalmers owed a substantial debt (if any) to BB17 - if the 5B Ltd wants to build up a modicum of trust and truly be open and transparent then prove it, inc specific evidence of how such a debt (assuming it did ever exist) accrued.
2) If the 5B's want to be even more open and transparent then post ALL fans questions and your answers on to an open public board for all fans to see.
3) To say that previous Bulls' owners were non rugby League people may be right, but let's not forget who put them in place, and deemed them to be fit and proper persons - Nigel Wood and the RFL. So are you having a laugh Eric? Do you, Nigel and Mark think us fans are gullible.
4) Last, but not least, the reference to a £30k saving for each Dewsbury based home game when compared to Odsal outgoings is disdainful spin, and you know it is Eric. One simple example of why your figures (of figures given to you by Wood and Sawyer) are wrong is as follows. There will in all likelihood be on average say up to 1000 less fans per 'home' game in 2020 when compared to last season. At an average (overpriced0 matchday gate price of say £22 (allowing for some concessions etc) then 1000 x £22 = £22K. Add on to that the shortfall in matchday income for beer and hard boiled burgers etc then your average savings will soon dwindle to zilch. So why not just tell the RFL to spend the £75K needed to re-open the doors to Odsal and =#4000BF Bring the Bulls Back to Bradford immediately; simple. Why won't Wood, Sawyer, Chalmers, and the RFL sanction that?
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1) We do not for one second belief that Andrew Chalmers owed a substantial debt (if any) to BB17 - if the 5B Ltd wants to build up a modicum of trust and truly be open and transparent then prove it, inc specific evidence of how such a debt (assuming it did ever exist) accrued.
2) If the 5B's want to be even more open and transparent then post ALL fans questions and your answers on to an open public board for all fans to see.
3) To say that previous Bulls' owners were non rugby League people may be right, but let's not forget who put them in place, and deemed them to be fit and proper persons - Nigel Wood and the RFL. So are you having a laugh Eric? Do you, Nigel and Mark think us fans are gullible.
4) Last, but not least, the reference to a £30k saving for each Dewsbury based home game when compared to Odsal outgoings is disdainful spin, and you know it is Eric. One simple example of why your figures (of figures given to you by Wood and Sawyer) are wrong is as follows. There will in all likelihood be on average say up to 1000 less fans per 'home' game in 2020 when compared to last season. At an average (overpriced0 matchday gate price of say £22 (allowing for some concessions etc) then 1000 x £22 = £22K. Add on to that the shortfall in matchday income for beer and hard boiled burgers etc then your average savings will soon dwindle to zilch. So why not just tell the RFL to spend the £75K needed to re-open the doors to Odsal and =#4000BF Bring the Bulls Back to Bradford immediately; simple. Why won't Wood, Sawyer, Chalmers, and the RFL sanction that?
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Actually, this forum doesn't mean much in the whole scheme of things and shows how much of a waste of time the troll is expending when you scan through the posts - say the last 10 pages and realise there are between 30 and 40 posters.
Some are from other clubs. Some are just wind up merchants. Quite a few don't go to games. Most are genuine supporters who don't believe a word of what the troll is saying. The other thousands of supporters make their own minds up without forums.
So, how many people is he talking to? Will both hands do or do I need a few toes as well to add them up.
That is why I laugh at the thought of a highly intelligent professional being up at 1am in the morning sitting at his laptop thinking he is talking to thousands of people and making a difference - when he is just talking to a handful of people. Think about it. That is why a serious businessman would not be on here and then allow his identity to be known at a later date.
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Quote ="nestegg"Having re-read the predominantly utter tosh in yesterday's League Express re the Bulls we have four additional open messages to Nigel Wood (and of course his family and PA's etc), Eric Perez and Mark [i[size=85(why ever did I allow Chalmers to allegedly owe me a high five figure gambling related debt)[/size[/i Sawyer:
1) We do not for one second belief that Andrew Chalmers owed a substantial debt (if any) to BB17 - if the 5B Ltd wants to build up a modicum of trust and truly be open and transparent then prove it, inc specific evidence of how such a debt (assuming it did ever exist) accrued.
2) If the 5B's want to be even more open and transparent then post ALL fans questions and your answers on to an open public board for all fans to see.
3) To say that previous Bulls' owners were non rugby League people may be right, but let's not forget who put them in place, and deemed them to be fit and proper persons - Nigel Wood and the RFL. So are you having a laugh Eric? Do you, Nigel and Mark think us fans are gullible.
4) Last, but not least, the reference to a £30k saving for each Dewsbury based home game when compared to Odsal outgoings is disdainful spin, and you know it is Eric. One simple example of why your figures (of figures given to you by Wood and Sawyer) are wrong is as follows. There will in all likelihood be on average say up to 1000 less fans per 'home' game in 2020 when compared to last season. At an average (overpriced0 matchday gate price of say £22 (allowing for some concessions etc) then 1000 x £22 = £22K. Add on to that the shortfall in matchday income for beer and hard boiled burgers etc then your average savings will soon dwindle to zilch. So why not just tell the RFL to spend the £75K needed to re-open the doors to Odsal and=#4000BF Bring the Bulls Back to Bradford immediately; simple. Why won't Wood, Sawyer, Chalmers, and the RFL sanction that?
We challenge you to answer the ">above.'"
I can't answer that. I don't think anyone on the forum can answer that. Try responding to them in person, not anonymously on a forum (which in all probability isn't read by any of them anyway) and then if they do reply then, by all means, post it up here.
Doing things like this just makes you look even more tenuous and ridiculous than you already do.
Actions speak louder than words, and all any of us have seen at the moment are you peddling cobblers on a forum. You've done this and seen these people. Lets see some evidence that what you say is right.
Until you have something to say which can be backed up by fact, facts that can be shared, I would just leave it be. At the moment, even if you are what you say you are, you're making no friends here.
If in the future (by some miracle), you WERE in charge of the Bulls I fear that the things you have said on here will come back and haunt you. I'm not sure I would give my support behind a group that accuses posters of being drunk because they have a pop at your sub-x-files conspiracy b0ll0cks.
To paraphrase: You're making no friends here, and if you want my support then shut up until you can come back with some cold hard facts to back up the meetings, accusations and figures you are presenting.
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1) We do not for one second belief that Andrew Chalmers owed a substantial debt (if any) to BB17 - if the 5B Ltd wants to build up a modicum of trust and truly be open and transparent then prove it, inc specific evidence of how such a debt (assuming it did ever exist) accrued.
2) If the 5B's want to be even more open and transparent then post ALL fans questions and your answers on to an open public board for all fans to see.
3) To say that previous Bulls' owners were non rugby League people may be right, but let's not forget who put them in place, and deemed them to be fit and proper persons - Nigel Wood and the RFL. So are you having a laugh Eric? Do you, Nigel and Mark think us fans are gullible.
4) Last, but not least, the reference to a £30k saving for each Dewsbury based home game when compared to Odsal outgoings is disdainful spin, and you know it is Eric. One simple example of why your figures (of figures given to you by Wood and Sawyer) are wrong is as follows. There will in all likelihood be on average say up to 1000 less fans per 'home' game in 2020 when compared to last season. At an average (overpriced0 matchday gate price of say £22 (allowing for some concessions etc) then 1000 x £22 = £22K. Add on to that the shortfall in matchday income for beer and hard boiled burgers etc then your average savings will soon dwindle to zilch. So why not just tell the RFL to spend the £75K needed to re-open the doors to Odsal and=#4000BF Bring the Bulls Back to Bradford immediately; simple. Why won't Wood, Sawyer, Chalmers, and the RFL sanction that?
We challenge you to answer the ">above.'"
I can't answer that. I don't think anyone on the forum can answer that. Try responding to them in person, not anonymously on a forum (which in all probability isn't read by any of them anyway) and then if they do reply then, by all means, post it up here.
Doing things like this just makes you look even more tenuous and ridiculous than you already do.
Actions speak louder than words, and all any of us have seen at the moment are you peddling cobblers on a forum. You've done this and seen these people. Lets see some evidence that what you say is right.
Until you have something to say which can be backed up by fact, facts that can be shared, I would just leave it be. At the moment, even if you are what you say you are, you're making no friends here.
If in the future (by some miracle), you WERE in charge of the Bulls I fear that the things you have said on here will come back and haunt you. I'm not sure I would give my support behind a group that accuses posters of being drunk because they have a pop at your sub-x-files conspiracy b0ll0cks.
To paraphrase: You're making no friends here, and if you want my support then shut up until you can come back with some cold hard facts to back up the meetings, accusations and figures you are presenting.
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Quote ="Bulliac"I'm somewhat concerned that the T&A have uncovered a bloke, as 'fans spokesperson', who apparently thinks that getting back to Odsal is more important than being able to afford to carry on at all. I'm not sure who he represents but I'd suggest that most fans would just be happy to come back to the city in a ground we can afford to run. I fully accept that there are some fans with an "Odsal till I die" mentality but I doubt that is the majority and I certainly hope ">not.'"
Very few that I speak to want to go back to Odsal. They all think it's time has gone and a newer, smaller ground possibly sharing with P.A is what should be done.
I have been going to watch the Northern for 44 years now and don't want to go back there - but a new ground roughly in the Odsal area would be nice.
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Quote ="Bulliac"I'm somewhat concerned that the T&A have uncovered a bloke, as 'fans spokesperson', who apparently thinks that getting back to Odsal is more important than being able to afford to carry on at all. I'm not sure who he represents but I'd suggest that most fans would just be happy to come back to the city in a ground we can afford to run. I fully accept that there are some fans with an "Odsal till I die" mentality but I doubt that is the majority and I certainly hope ">not.'"
Very few that I speak to want to go back to Odsal. They all think it's time has gone and a newer, smaller ground possibly sharing with P.A is what should be done.
I have been going to watch the Northern for 44 years now and don't want to go back there - but a new ground roughly in the Odsal area would be nice.
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+ 1. Odsal's time is done. The only reason I can see they want to go back it the clause FA spoke about whereby if CBMDC kick the Bulls out they must provide an alternative, suitable stadium.
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Quote ="Scarey71"+ 1. Odsal's time is done. The only reason I can see they want to go back it the clause FA spoke about whereby if CBMDC kick the Bulls out they must provide an alternative, suitable ">stadium.'"
CBMDC don't need to 'kick the Bulls out'. They've left of their own volition so why would such a clause, if it exists, to be invoked?
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Quote ="Scarey71"+ 1. Odsal's time is done. The only reason I can see they want to go back it the clause FA spoke about whereby if CBMDC kick the Bulls out they must provide an alternative, suitable ">stadium.'"
CBMDC don't need to 'kick the Bulls out'. They've left of their own volition so why would such a clause, if it exists, to be invoked?
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It's worrying that the talk seems to be moving more and more towards a return to Odsal.
One gets the feeling that, if 'a deal' can be done we are going to be back to Odsal in 2021 (at the latest).
Do we [ireally[/i want to go back to standing out on crumbling terraces with the rain pouring down on our heads? The ground issue is about much more than whether we can get BMDC to knock a few quid off the rates bill. The place isn't fit for purpose in this day and age.
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For some reason there are parts of the stadium which, apparently, were never included in the lease but belong to Bfd Met. It is this area, which includes the lottery office and I believe the old VP's lounge/cum media area, so[i technically[/i they are renting some buildings from the council but haven't "gone back" to the leased area. |
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