|
 |
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 8 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2018 | 7 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2018 | Aug 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Thank you bullseye , I’m only doing what any concerned parent / Bulls fan would do . I shall let you know how I get on .
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 370 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Oct 2005 | 19 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2022 | Aug 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I’m sorry, but I still don’t buy it, and it has nothing to do with any claim to knowledge as to the bulls financial state. It does have everything timing...
At 9:17 pm on the 13th belcki, a known troll, posts a number of serious allegations against the club.
At between 9:37 and 9:58 belcki is called out 3 times and asked to reveal themselves and their evidence.
At 10:05, a whole 7 minutes later, a new account is registered under the name Mable1980.
Over the course of the 14th respected and long registered posters contradict belcki’s claims, showing him to be a liar.
Today this new account posts claims backing up one of belcki’s claims.
It all seems far too convenient to me. And how did this person stumble across this thread? It’s not as if it’s title is “people not paid by the bulls”, it would be a huge coincidence for them to stumble across the discussion less than an hour after the claims were made.
I hate trolls and liars, and I believe that belcki and Mable1980 are both.
In fact I would go as far as requesting that the ip addresses of the posters be compared by a moderator, and if the match both should be banned.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 8 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2018 | 7 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2018 | Aug 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I’m sorry that I chose this post to air my grievances but I’m not sticking up for anyone other then my kids in response to the previous post. Is this a fans forum which allows freedom of speech and opinion .
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 7201 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Mable1980="Mable1980"I’m sorry that I chose this post to air my grievances but I’m not sticking up for anyone other then my kids in response to the previous post. Is this a fans forum which allows freedom of speech and opinion .'"
Of course. Unless you're just trolling and have completely made up the rumours. Then in which case i hope legal action is taken against you.
Beleckis "rumours" got called out by a source we know we can all trust.
If they are true, then hold Chalmers to account and i would support you 100%. But if you've made them up, the consequences could be far greater than a few bites on a forum.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 7201 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Anyway doesn't Mick now work for the club? Im sure he could tell us.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 9203 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Bull Mania="Bull Mania"Anyway doesn't Mick now work for the club? Im sure he could tell us.'"
Mick would be best advised sticking to what he is good at, which is commentating on the matches.
And in any case, he will only be able to relay what he is told which may or may not be the whole truth. Time will tell I won't be losing sleep about it though!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 32127 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| I'm sure if Susan's got a case it will be sorted out. We all know enough people up at the club to know if it does get sorted too.
Belcki's not as bright as he/she thinks and will slip up eventually. In the meantime let's not give it the oxygen.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 3546 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2019 | May 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Bull Mania="Bull Mania"Anyway doesn't Mick now work for the club? Im sure he could tell us.'"
I'm sure anyone who works for the club would tow the company line. And even if they didn't, a number of those who work there are too well known to be "economical with the truth" to pay attention to anyway.
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Player Coach | 7122 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2007 | 17 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Mable1980="Mable1980"I’m sorry that I chose this post to air my grievances but I’m not sticking up for anyone other then my kids in response to the previous post. Is this a fans forum which allows freedom of speech and opinion .'"
I hope you get things sorted because that isn’t on at all.
How old are your son and daughter if you don’t mind me asking?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 3534 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2020 | Feb 2020 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Mable1980="Mable1980"My name is Susan Hawkins age 38 from Bradford, I’m a concerned parent of 2 young adults who work match days for a club they are proud to support . Both my son and daughter are still waiting to be paid. Wages were due on the 10th July but both of my kids were fobbed off with the excuses such as tax code errors or there’s a problem with bank account numbers / sort codes then a false promise of you will receive wages on the 23rd July . They are still awaiting wages. Seeing my children in distress about the non payment of wages I messaged Bradford Bulls on Facebook messenger. This message was read and ignored ( very respectful lol ) . Both my kids and I would like to meet Mr Chalmers face to face to resolve this issue immediately .
I have emailed Councillors at Bradford Council and I have also emailed the sports minister with my concerns about the unfair treatment and non payment of wages of your young fans / employees . Next step will be an employment advice from accas'"
Can I ask, while not doubting anything you have said, why have you emailed councillors at Bradford council and the Sports Minister. If it was my kids that hadn’t been paid I would be more inclined to go see the people who have not paid them.
If my boss didn’t pay me I wouldn’t email the council or the sports minister.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Coach | 5880 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2005 | 20 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Oct 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| You don't get paid so you send them a message on facebook?!
Get yourself down there and demand answers, don't bloody send a social media message.
This country...
|
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 3546 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2019 | May 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Nothus="Nothus"You don't get paid so you send them a message on facebook?!
Get yourself down there and demand answers, don't bloody send a social media message.
This country...'"
Unfortunately you're not far wrong. The way of the world nowadays to complain on social media to get attention rather than doing it the most effective or even the "right" way.
I tend to agree with what you and a couple of others say. I'd be up at Odsal demanding to speak to the man in charge and I wouldn't be leaving until I did or the police turned up to remove me. If on the other hand I was the person who hadn't been paid, the last thing I'd be doing is showing up to work. If the place I work didn't pay me on the agreed day and the agreed amount, they wouldn't get a minute's work out of me until they did.
If this is true from Mabel, and I have no right to say it is or isn't, then it's a bad sign for the club, but it's a worse sign for the people who haven't been paid what they're owed. And in fact any other employees at Odsal who will surely be fearful of the same happening to them. Except the website and social media guy, that fecker doesn't deserve to be paid in washers.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 1226 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2016 | 9 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Susan,
Do you know if other staff members are affected (players aren't)?
How long have they worked there?
Is this the first payday the arey expecting? (If it is even blue chips screw that up generally. It's not a sign they are going bust. Its generally a sign they missed payroll, have tried to squeeze in and failed.)
As payment was 10/07 did they get paid correctly on 10/08 i.e. this months payroll?
Why haven't you plonked yourself in the shop and told them you aren't moving until you see Chalmers? Do it!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 32127 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Maybe unconnected with Susan's plight but I've heard someone is spreading lots of rumours and out right lies around. Not just online but elsewhere too. Obviously this person has an axe to grind or an interest in sowing discord. So don't believe everything you hear/read.
Probably that warehouse of Russian trolls in Halifax again...
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 1226 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Apr 2016 | 9 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| As Adeybull says on the other forum, there's a lot of work being done at the minute to try discredit/destabilise Bradford.
Wonder who'd benefit from that now?
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 76 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Mar 2016 | 9 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Apr 2022 | Apr 2022 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Mable1980="Mable1980"I’m sorry that I chose this post to air my grievances but I’m not sticking up for anyone other then my kids in response to the previous post. Is this a fans forum which allows freedom of speech and opinion .'"
You are Lobby Ludd and I claim my £5. Who else is old enough to remember this. There must be a number of us old codgers out there.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 501 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2017 | 7 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Downbutnotout="Downbutnotout"You are Lobby Ludd and I claim my £5. Who else is old enough to remember this. There must be a number of us old codgers out there.'"
I remember Looby Loo !!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 10 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2018 | 7 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Jan 2020 | Oct 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| I think you had to have a copy of the Daily Mirror as well to claim the fiver!
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 8 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2018 | 7 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2018 | Aug 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Just to let all of you know my son was finally paid his wages. Also we tried calling before using social media . Maybe Bradford Bulls should look at issues in their communication methods and offer employees training in communication.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 3546 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2013 | 12 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
May 2019 | May 2019 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Mable1980="Mable1980"Maybe Bradford Bulls should look at issues in their communication methods and offer employees training in communication.'"
People have been saying that about the "Media Manager" for about 18 months, and yet he's still making the same errors and still ignoring most online communication.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 932 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Jan 2012 | 13 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Nov 2024 | Oct 2024 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Mable1980="Mable1980"Just to let all of you know my son was finally paid his wages'"
What about ‘your daughter that works for the bulls’ too? Or did you forget she existed in your story?
Sorry but this just doesn’t ring true with me. Yes the club is a long way from perfect but I suspect this is just a bored person with too much time on their hands and an axe to grind who is not happy with the seemingly good vibes coming out of the club.
Don’t get me wrong I’m sure there are a few things going on at the club that we as fans don’t know about but I don it believe that this Mable or belcki know anything eitherand are just mischief makers for my money.
I did enjoy belcki’s last post though.. laughable and very entertaining written as if a spokesman for an elite group of people watching and lurking in the dark! Lovely creative writing and should get a decent mark at GSCE.
Just another poster who say ‘all is not as it seems’ in the hope it all goes wrong somehow and they can say thy knew all along.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 8 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2018 | 7 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2018 | Aug 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| In answer to the above post my daughter hasn’t had chance to check her account yet but will Be shortly will keep you informed
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Moderator | 32127 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
Moderator
|
| Glad it's being sorted.
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
Club Captain | 8 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
Aug 2018 | 7 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Aug 2018 | Aug 2018 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Thank you Bullseye
|
|
|
Rank | Posts | Team |
International Star | 7201 | No Team Selected |
Joined | Service | Reputation |
May 2011 | 14 years | |
Online | Last Post | Last Page |
Feb 2025 | Feb 2025 | LINK |
Milestone Posts |
|
Milestone Years |
|
Location |
|
Signature |
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote Mable1980="Mable1980"Just to let all of you know my son was finally paid his wages. Also we tried calling before using social media . Maybe Bradford Bulls should look at issues in their communication methods and offer employees training in communication.'"
So howw did you get it sorted? Did you go down to the club and speak to someone. Did you phone Andrew Chalmers. Did your son/daughter receive Augusts payday on the correct date, if not what was the excuse this time?
|
|
|
 |
|