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The saddest thing about our recent demise and present predicament is lack of vision on the part of our various partners. Investment is a driving essential, but it sure hurts to see the development at Headingley accommodating both RL and Cricket as apposed to what we have on our own doorstep right here. Park Ave,Richard Dunn and the old lady herself Odsal. All were fit facilities in their day, but things have moved on and we, in this respect, have not. You do not have to be a visionary or even a billionaire .. but where there's a will there is definitely a way. Now is the time for assessment and a determination to succeed. A commitment is needed from the Council,Sport England and associated developers, working with their partners to deliver what the City needs to replace... with aplomb, our outdated facilities. One stadium fit for both professional sport and community use. We deserve such and we, as a large City and indeed Metropolis, need to strive to, at least match other forward looking Councils and move with the times.C'mon the powers that be and seize this opportunity to revive our creaking sporting infrastructure once and for all.

The saddest thing about our recent demise and present predicament is lack of vision on the part of our various partners. Investment is a driving essential, but it sure hurts to see the development at Headingley accommodating both RL and Cricket as apposed to what we have on our own doorstep right here. Park Ave,Richard Dunn and the old lady herself Odsal. All were fit facilities in their day, but things have moved on and we, in this respect, have not. You do not have to be a visionary or even a billionaire .. but where there's a will there is definitely a way. Now is the time for assessment and a determination to succeed. A commitment is needed from the Council,Sport England and associated developers, working with their partners to deliver what the City needs to replace... with aplomb, our outdated facilities. One stadium fit for both professional sport and community use. We deserve such and we, as a large City and indeed Metropolis, need to strive to, at least match other forward looking Councils and move with the times.C'mon the powers that be and seize this opportunity to revive our creaking sporting infrastructure once and for all.

Thank you very much for your clarification BullBuilder Bored Member. Most helpful.



We had of course been made aware that Judith Cummins MP is spearheading the campaign/petition. That was most generous of Judith. In fact those of a cynical disposition may even think that there may be a general election looming on the horizon.



Two of our informants did inform us that they had seen or met with Judith Cummins in the proximity of BullBuilder last week and one of them testified that she had given a speech to, or met with, some Bulls supporters. Regardless, either you didn't see her, or they were mistaken. In any case it's largely irrelevant because we are where we are, i.e. sadly stuck for the time being with another allegedly nefarious owner(s) of the Bulls.



Even if our informants were mistaken, we trust you can accede that despite some forum members cynicism, the nesteggers are right most of the time, and as time passes we predict that many (if not all) of our direct or inferred accusations may well become fact. Time will be the judge of that, but we are quietly confident.



Let us now consider a related point that some fellow Bulls' forum members, and others on social media, have raised. Although on face value the Judith Cummins led initiative appears to be laudable, the parties that count, inc Wood and Sawyer etc, will sadly take little (if any) notice.



The Bulls' fans are the club's #1 asset. Of that there can be no doubt. But we allege that Wood and Sawyer don't see it that way. They we aver are largely concerned with their own selfish motives and interests. For example, we believe at this time that the two of them are allegedly seeking to reconcile their own debts in part via a ruthless asset stripping exercise. In that regard we urge fans or the credible RL press (i.e. Mr Sadler excluded), to ask Wood and Sawyer the following question - "[iPlease confirm with proof who were the top three BB17 creditors by value as of 1700hrs on 22cd October 2019?[/i ".



Despite the aforementioned petition we would like to put forward the following possible hypothesis for Nigel Wood and Mark Sawyer to contemplate. In order to boost allegedly ailing Bulls' 2020 season ticket sales, the club may look to work with their close friends at the RFL to house many, or a few, 'marquee' games at Odsal next year. For example, the home game against Halifax could draw in an attendance of over 5,000 fans to Odsal.



We understand on good authority that the cost of re-opening Odsal in order to facilitate the above would be in order of £75K - £80K and that should be sufficient to reasonably comply with H&S legislation etc. The RFL can easily afford to fork out for such a modest outlay.



Hypothesising even further, then given Eric Perez's (interim) role in BB17 and his close Toronto affiliation then why has it not dawned on the RFL (or Eric) to house some of the the Wolfpacks' 'home' SL games at Odsal next season rather than doing so in the likes of the Netherlands or other overseas locations? Oh, of course, we have forgetten about the alleged Odsal land grab. How remiss of us. Would the following (dubious) cast list, therefore, please accept our sincere aplogies for such an apparent oversight:



1) RFL's Ralph Rimmer and Simon Johnson,

2) Nigel Wood,

3) Mark Sawyer,

4) Andrew Chalmers,

5) Judith Cummins MP,

6) Kersten England, and last, but [unot[/u least,

7) Susan Hinchcliffe.



Time for the nesteggers to head across to Reykjavik's world famous Blue Lagoon for a relaxing bathe and rub down.

Quote ="PHILISAN"The saddest thing about our recent demise and present predicament is lack of vision on the part of our various partners. Investment is a driving essential, but it sure hurts to see the development at Headingley accommodating both RL and Cricket as apposed to what we have on our own doorstep right here. Park Ave,Richard Dunn and the old lady herself Odsal. All were fit facilities in their day, but things have moved on and we, in this respect, have not. You do not have to be a visionary or even a billionaire .. but where there's a will there is definitely a way. Now is the time for assessment and a determination to succeed. A commitment is needed from the Council,Sport England and associated developers, working with their partners to deliver what the City needs to replace... with aplomb, our outdated facilities. One stadium fit for both professional sport and community use. We deserve such and we, as a large City and indeed Metropolis, need to strive to, at least match other forward looking Councils and move with the times.C'mon the powers that be and seize this opportunity to revive our creaking sporting infrastructure once and for ">all.'" Not sure we can take anything from Headingley development - which looks terrific, incidentally. We, as a club, aren't in the same position as Leeds, who have Caddick construction as a benefactor, so there isn't the same cash floating around the Bulls as at Headingley. From our point of view we need to take stock of both our current position and our aspirations and what, more sensibly, is likely to happen. To be frank, I'm far from certain about Will and his way and short of there being some quite serious money in the background, in my opinion, we as a club, are likely to remain in the Championship (and in a bind) for the foreseeable. So first question is, do we need an expensive ground? The short answer is no - though it might be wise, if any ground were likely to be built, to maybe leave some provision to expand at a later date. It all costs though, and some 'cloth cutting' would need to be done. Is Odsal a starter? I dunno, but possibly not, due to costs, even though it does have the obvious attraction of being available for the asking. It would probably depend on any other commercial use(s) which could be integrated into the site - it is, after all, a pretty big area. We've had other suggestions; the Richard Dunn site, Horsfall, Park Avenue, and all are possibilities I suppose, though how many are available? I'd guess the Dunn site would be worth a bob or two to the council, maybe for housing as they would no doubt like to increase the amount of social (ie 'affordable') housing in the city or for industrial use of some kind. Horsfall would be available as the Park Avenue club have already said so, but it remains very undeveloped and in a bad area for amenities like parking, for instance. The idea of Park Avenue, and us going into it with the new Avenue soccer club does, given the history, have a solid ring to it. I've no idea who owns it but I do believe there is still a cricket school on-site which may mean it's unavailable.

Quote ="PHILISAN"The saddest thing about our recent demise and present predicament is lack of vision on the part of our various partners. Investment is a driving essential, but it sure hurts to see the development at Headingley accommodating both RL and Cricket as apposed to what we have on our own doorstep right here. Park Ave,Richard Dunn and the old lady herself Odsal. All were fit facilities in their day, but things have moved on and we, in this respect, have not. You do not have to be a visionary or even a billionaire .. but where there's a will there is definitely a way. Now is the time for assessment and a determination to succeed. A commitment is needed from the Council,Sport England and associated developers, working with their partners to deliver what the City needs to replace... with aplomb, our outdated facilities. One stadium fit for both professional sport and community use. We deserve such and we, as a large City and indeed Metropolis, need to strive to, at least match other forward looking Councils and move with the times.C'mon the powers that be and seize this opportunity to revive our creaking sporting infrastructure once and for ">all.'" Not sure we can take anything from Headingley development - which looks terrific, incidentally. We, as a club, aren't in the same position as Leeds, who have Caddick construction as a benefactor, so there isn't the same cash floating around the Bulls as at Headingley. From our point of view we need to take stock of both our current position and our aspirations and what, more sensibly, is likely to happen. To be frank, I'm far from certain about Will and his way and short of there being some quite serious money in the background, in my opinion, we as a club, are likely to remain in the Championship (and in a bind) for the foreseeable. So first question is, do we need an expensive ground? The short answer is no - though it might be wise, if any ground were likely to be built, to maybe leave some provision to expand at a later date. It all costs though, and some 'cloth cutting' would need to be done. Is Odsal a starter? I dunno, but possibly not, due to costs, even though it does have the obvious attraction of being available for the asking. It would probably depend on any other commercial use(s) which could be integrated into the site - it is, after all, a pretty big area. We've had other suggestions; the Richard Dunn site, Horsfall, Park Avenue, and all are possibilities I suppose, though how many are available? I'd guess the Dunn site would be worth a bob or two to the council, maybe for housing as they would no doubt like to increase the amount of social (ie 'affordable') housing in the city or for industrial use of some kind. Horsfall would be available as the Park Avenue club have already said so, but it remains very undeveloped and in a bad area for amenities like parking, for instance. The idea of Park Avenue, and us going into it with the new Avenue soccer club does, given the history, have a solid ring to it. I've no idea who owns it but I do believe there is still a cricket school on-site which may mean it's unavailable.

Bradford South has been a safe seat for Labour since the 1940’s.



Suggesting that the Bulls are a deciding issue that could impact a majority of around 7000 again shows that pest egg is talking out of his rear.

TBF Judith has been a big supporter of the Bulls for a while. She's head of the all parliamentary group for RL and has reguarly brought the Bulls up in the house of commons from when we went bust to when we won promotion. She's certainly not just taken an interest in the Bulls with a GE on the horizon.