Yeah, 5 changes in the last 24 hours apparently

Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I'm fairly relaxed about this year as I believe we would only be making up the numbers in the top 5 in all reality if we made it. It's also the ideal time for people like Lilley and Milnes to develop a partnership and prove they can lead a serious promotion push in 2020. To achieve promotion in the next couple of years we really need to keep this squad together for a year or so though as the vultures are already targeting some of the promising young ">players.'" Yeah for me this season was all about being in the mix, finding our feet back at this level and seeing where we get. Next year and beyond needs to see us beginning to become an established top 5 side. Promotion is sadly a few years away I'd say. There's just no way it can be rushed if we're to have a sustainable model for the club. I say sustainable but there's still the nagging doubt that our current owner can be our sole funder. I'm not one for conspiracies (although I know who REALLY killed Dianna) but my worry is that if we don't have a secret investor, we might simply have a man with moderate means, and we know how that one sometimes ends.

Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I'm fairly relaxed about this year as I believe we would only be making up the numbers in the top 5 in all reality if we made it. It's also the ideal time for people like Lilley and Milnes to develop a partnership and prove they can lead a serious promotion push in 2020. To achieve promotion in the next couple of years we really need to keep this squad together for a year or so though as the vultures are already targeting some of the promising young ">players.'" Yeah for me this season was all about being in the mix, finding our feet back at this level and seeing where we get. Next year and beyond needs to see us beginning to become an established top 5 side. Promotion is sadly a few years away I'd say. There's just no way it can be rushed if we're to have a sustainable model for the club. I say sustainable but there's still the nagging doubt that our current owner can be our sole funder. I'm not one for conspiracies (although I know who REALLY killed Dianna) but my worry is that if we don't have a secret investor, we might simply have a man with moderate means, and we know how that one sometimes ends.

Quote ="Pumpetypump"If you see the start to the season through the prism of us being a fallen giant then you could get downcast I suppose but I'm firmly telling myself the whole time "We are newly promoted". The other day we went to an established top 5 Championship club and beat them on their own turf. The fact that they hate us and lost to a freshly promoted side must have been really annoying. The capitulation at Feath better not become a habit but nor is it a disaster. We are roughly where I expected us to be, the only thing that has surprised me is that our attack hasn't clicked, and I thought that would have become more fluent by ">now.'" On the attacking front, for me it's more that we don't attempt, rather than don't achieve. We're far too formulaic and don't seem willing to try anything different. Our halves don't take on the line enough, whether it comes off or not, if you don't even try it then the defensive line can discount the (lack of) threat from an acting half and just look for the runners - we're making their job easier. Off-loads is an other area we don't make enough use of. I can understand that JK probably considers it 'risky', and it is but I'm not suggesting we do it every other tackle like some clubs. There are plenty of tackles where players could be given the discretion imo, and again, if we never do it defences can ignore the threat and concentrate on making the 10, again making their job easier. It is a balance I know but imo we haven't got it quite right.

Quote ="Pumpetypump"If you see the start to the season through the prism of us being a fallen giant then you could get downcast I suppose but I'm firmly telling myself the whole time "We are newly promoted". The other day we went to an established top 5 Championship club and beat them on their own turf. The fact that they hate us and lost to a freshly promoted side must have been really annoying. The capitulation at Feath better not become a habit but nor is it a disaster. We are roughly where I expected us to be, the only thing that has surprised me is that our attack hasn't clicked, and I thought that would have become more fluent by ">now.'" On the attacking front, for me it's more that we don't attempt, rather than don't achieve. We're far too formulaic and don't seem willing to try anything different. Our halves don't take on the line enough, whether it comes off or not, if you don't even try it then the defensive line can discount the (lack of) threat from an acting half and just look for the runners - we're making their job easier. Off-loads is an other area we don't make enough use of. I can understand that JK probably considers it 'risky', and it is but I'm not suggesting we do it every other tackle like some clubs. There are plenty of tackles where players could be given the discretion imo, and again, if we never do it defences can ignore the threat and concentrate on making the 10, again making their job easier. It is a balance I know but imo we haven't got it quite right.

Don't you think we slightly overplay the conservative style of John Kear a little bit. I'm not sure what we are serving up is quite what even he has in mind.

Quote ="Pumpetypump"Don't you think we slightly overplay the conservative style of John Kear a little bit. I'm not sure what we are serving up is quite what even he has in ">mind.'" Agreed. But I'm not sure we're practicing anything else or we'd be more fluent wouldn't we? Can't be that hard for ball carriers to have some support runners for instance rather than people standing back and watching.

Quote ="Pumpetypump"Don't you think we slightly overplay the conservative style of John Kear a little bit. I'm not sure what we are serving up is quite what even he has in ">mind.'" Agreed. But I'm not sure we're practicing anything else or we'd be more fluent wouldn't we? Can't be that hard for ball carriers to have some support runners for instance rather than people standing back and watching.

Quote ="Pumpetypump"Don't you think we slightly overplay the conservative style of John Kear a little bit. I'm not sure what we are serving up is quite what even he has in ">mind.'" To be honest, I believe JK is more a pragmatist than anything else. I think he uses the tactics he feels are achievable by the players available and are conducive to breaking down/containing the opposition and I'm far from against that. For sure it isn't always the free flowing expansive style of rugby we'd all really like to see, and though obviously we wouldn't expect that all the time (well, most of us), when things aren't working it's maybe time to unfasten those top buttons a bit and try something else a little less conservative? I don't think the vast majority of fans mind us being beaten, if we've gone down fighting and given our best against a superior team but sometimes it seems we think that coming out of the game with best stats, more than actually winning the game is the objective. The sad part is that we too often don't change tactics even when the scoreboard shows it isn't working.

Quote ="Pumpetypump"Don't you think we slightly overplay the conservative style of John Kear a little bit. I'm not sure what we are serving up is quite what even he has in ">mind.'" To be honest, I believe JK is more a pragmatist than anything else. I think he uses the tactics he feels are achievable by the players available and are conducive to breaking down/containing the opposition and I'm far from against that. For sure it isn't always the free flowing expansive style of rugby we'd all really like to see, and though obviously we wouldn't expect that all the time (well, most of us), when things aren't working it's maybe time to unfasten those top buttons a bit and try something else a little less conservative? I don't think the vast majority of fans mind us being beaten, if we've gone down fighting and given our best against a superior team but sometimes it seems we think that coming out of the game with best stats, more than actually winning the game is the objective. The sad part is that we too often don't change tactics even when the scoreboard shows it isn't working.