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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"He had one of his best games for us in the Semi final victory last season, over Leeds. Other notable performances from him
were in the playoffs against Bradford and Leeds. He's not a flat track bully.'"
He that good you can count how many good games he played.
Must admit I did expect him to play well to night but I doubt he will make any impact next week at all.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"He that good you can count how many good games he played.
Must admit I did expect him to play well to night but I doubt he will make any impact next week at all.'"
Jesus, so now you lot have forced Francis Meli to go into hiding in the mountains in New Zealand, you are going to pick on Jon Wilkin?
Instead of having a go at Wilkin when we get a pasting next week, why not direct it towards the board, who can do no wrong, yet who have cost us the last 2 Super League titles (3 this year) through the stupid (lack of) recruitment policy.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Jesus, so now you lot have forced Francis Meli to go into hiding in the mountains in New Zealand, you are going to pick on Jon Wilkin?
Instead of having a go at Wilkin when we get a pasting next week, why not direct it towards the board, who can do no wrong, yet who have cost us the last 2 Super League titles (3 this year) through the stupid (lack of) recruitment policy.'"
I think you should read the posts. Nobody is giving wilkin any stick, nobody saying he's not good.
What we saying is he could be better if he looks in the mirror and sees he ain't as good as he thinks he is.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"I think you should read the posts. Nobody is giving wilkin any stick, nobody saying he's not good.
What we saying is he could be better if he looks in the mirror and sees he ain't as good as he thinks he is.'"
What makes you think he thinks he is a good as you think he thinks he is?
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| Quote St pete="St pete"I think you should read the posts. Nobody is giving wilkin any stick, nobody saying he's not good.
What we saying is he could be better if he looks in the mirror and sees he ain't as good as he thinks he is.'"
If you were Jon Wilkin and you looked into the mirror, the only thing you would do is smile smugly. He's gorge 
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| Quote Ski="Ski"What makes you think he thinks he is a good as you think he thinks he is?'"
The same reason as most people have posted on here
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| Quote St pete="St pete"The same reason as most people have posted on here'"
Because he was bigged up?
Seriously, what is your angle? I am not getting it.
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| Quote Ski="Ski"Because he was bigged up?
Seriously, what is your angle? I am not getting it.'"
He has all the ability to be a great player. He got good hands, good brain, runs very good lines but he ain't got the heart.
He walks round the pitch(and town) thinking he is some superstar.
When the going gets tough in big games aginst big teams he goes missing but when we putting in big scores he is up for it.
He needs to look in the mirror and get his head down and get his 2006 form back.
I do like him but it does my head in watching him coz he is alot better than he is playing
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| Maybe if he put the effort he does into his media work he would play better.
I fear for his futre coz I don't think potter likes showboat 2nd rows.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"He has all the ability to be a great player. He got good hands, good brain, runs very good lines but he ain't got the heart.'"
Why do you think that?
Quote St pete="St pete"He walks round the pitch(and town) thinking he is some superstar.'"
Name me a non local player who doesn't?
Quote St pete="St pete"When the going gets tough in big games aginst big teams he goes missing but when we putting in big scores he is up for it.'"
Yes, when the pack is getting beaten, pack players look poor. When the pack is playing well, pack players look good.
Who'da freaking thunk it?
Quote St pete="St pete"He needs to look in the mirror'"
According to you, that's half his problem.
Quote St pete="St pete"and get his head down and get his 2006 form back.'"
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2006&hp1=1043&hs2=2008&hp2=1043&stat=tries&season=2009Pleb is all I can say[/url
Quote St pete="St pete"I do like him but it does my head in watching him coz he is alot better than he is playing'"
Maybe you should learn something about Rugby Leage before runing your mouth off.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Maybe if he put the effort he does into his media work he would play better.
I fear for his futre coz I don't think potter likes showboat 2nd rows.'"
I fear for the future of Saints' fans with gimps like you making stupid comments.
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| Quote Ski="Ski"Why do you think that?
Name me a non local player who doesn't?
Yes, when the pack is getting beaten, pack players look poor. When the pack is playing well, pack players look good.
Who'da freaking thunk it?
Ha ha ha! I've played the game since I was 8 so think I might know a little bout rugby.
Anyhow if you read the posts I think I win on points.
and he not a local player thick he is from hull.
You are very touchy! Is it the time of the month?
According to you, that's half his problem.
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2006&hp1=1043&hs2=2008&hp2=1043&stat=tries&season=2009Pleb is all I can say[/url
Maybe you should learn something about Rugby Leage before runing your mouth off.'"
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Ha ha ha! I've played the game since I was 8 so think I might know a little bout rugby.'"
Obviously not enough to know when you chatted so much your have replaced your lips with a sphinctar.
Quote St pete="St pete"Anyhow if you read the posts I think I win on points.'"
Eh?
Quote St pete="St pete"and he not a local player thick poop he is from hull.'"
Quote St pete="Ski"Name me a non local player who doesn't? '"
Again, eh?
Quote St pete="St pete"You are very touchy! Is it the time of the month? '"
A period joke. Clever. You think of it all by yourself?
Pillock
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| Quote St Pete="St Pete"Listsen you cock! ThAt is my opinion. I've not slagged him off as I do like him so love off nice person'"
Awesome, the last resort of someone in a big hole.
Put the spade down and I'll pass you a rope. 
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| =redCut it out. Carlos.
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| =redAnd you too... Carlos.
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| Quote Ski="Ski"=redAnd you too... Carlos.'"
Spoil sport.
Anyway, to put this thread into perspective
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2006&hp1=1043&hs2=2007&hp2=1043&stat=tries&season=20092007 vs 2007[/url
[url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2006&hp1=1043&hs2=2008&hp2=1043&stat=tries&season=20092006 vs 2008[/url
In short, Wilkin has developed well. He may have looked as though he could have been a superstar (in some peoples eyes), as it happens, he has essentially continued to grow since his "peak season in 2006."
Strange.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Maybe if he put the effort he does into his media work he would play better.
I fear for his futre coz I don't think potter likes showboat 2nd rows.'"
Showboat? A player who is in the top 3 of Super League's most tackles made for 2009 so far? That suggests to me he's putting the graft in.
Played very well tonight when most of the rest were out of sorts.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Instead of having a go at Wilkin when we get a pasting next week, why not direct it towards the board, who can do no wrong, yet who have cost us the last 2 Super League titles (3 this year) through the stupid (lack of) recruitment policy.'"
You mean the same board that led us to win the league in the same two years or the challenge cup in those same two years?
C'mon man get a grip! We've lost the last two grand finals because we weren't the best team on the day... because the players that had already put everything into winning the other two trophies and getting us to the grand finals couldn't perform well enough in one last game in each of those seasons! End of.
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| You can't answer any of ski's posts so you result to insults - nice. This a place for debates, if you disagree with someone, argue the other side like a grown up.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Maybe if he put the effort he does into his media work he would play better.
I fear for his futre coz I don't think potter likes showboat 2nd rows.'"
He,s averaging 40 tackles a game, 85 metres, one of the highest tackle busts, only 2 penalties and 2 errors so far this season. For me thats not showboating.
I think people should get off his back, people should watch the amount of effort he puts in, tackles, dummy runs, kicking, support play etc. As for playing against big teams he did alright in the Challenge Cup and thats year after year.
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"You can't answer any of ski's posts so you result to insults - nice. This a place for debates, if you disagree with someone, argue the other side like a grown up.'"
I was only saying what I thought on wilkin.
Christ anyone would think I've totally bagged him off!
Read my posts ski, not once have I said ewt bad aimed at wilkin other than he could be better!
Then you start a slanging match.
Maybe we should meet for a little chat after the Leeds game and get it off r chests.
God I'd love to have a face to face chat with you!
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| Pete, if you're going to run your mouth on a forum, expect to have your opinion challenged. Resorting to keyboard warrior tactics like "you wouldn't say this to my face" is just going make people think what and a-hole.
You said he needs to improve to his his 2006 level, yet there is irrefutable evidence that Wilkin has improved to a level above his 2006 performance, despite playing in a less dominant team.
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| Quote Ski="Ski"Pete, if you're going to run your mouth on a forum, expect to have your opinion challenged. Resorting to keyboard warrior tactics like "you wouldn't say this to my face" is just going make people think what and a-hole.
You said he needs to improve to his his 2006 level, yet there is irrefutable evidence that Wilkin has improved to a level above his 2006 performance, despite playing in a less dominant team.'"
Use the PM system FFS!
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