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| Quote wear and tearInjuries Rotator Cuff Tear
The tendons at the ends of the rotator cuff muscles can become torn, leading to pain and restricted movement of the arm. A torn rotator cuff can occur following a trauma to the shoulder =redor it can occur through "wear and tear" of the tendons (most commonly that of the supraspinatus) under the acromion.
It is an injury frequently sustained by athletes whose duties involve making repetitive throws, such as baseball pitchers, American football quarterbacks, volleyball (due to their swinging motions), water polo players, shotput throwers (due to using poor technique), swimmers, boxers, kayaking, fast bowlers in cricket, and tennis players (due to their service motion).'"
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| Quote Rixy="Rixy"Nope it isn't I'm afraid. The professional concerned could stake his reputation on the argument that the KFC caused the injury, a professional from Leeds however could find otherwise, result is that the fowl on Jammer really is inconclusive as to being the cause to any injury to his rotator cuff.
Just because a professional has spoken out on the matter doesn't mean it's 100% certain, after all, when you get professionals cutting players mouths deliberately to back up an on-field occurrence (Ok in Onion, but still a professional nonetheless), whoever pays the wages will have the last say on what and what isn't the cause.'"
Hmm, good placement
I'm sure the pro in question is well aware of that, and whats to say Leeds' one is 100% correct? Does seem rather strange that JJB has been found guilty and Graham is out the next game. Not all injuries kick in straight away, but tend to afterwards. (perhaps a reason Graham went straight off, the pain was starting?)
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| Quote DoubleAone="DoubleAone"HTH
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Do you know how old James Graham is?
Assuming you do, I would suggest that it isn't wear and tear. If it was, props an awful lot older than him would have been going down like flies for years. However, they have not.
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You should have cut off the rest of your post as Graham doesn't frequently make any of the motions required for it to be a wear and tear problem.
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Well, it took 10 minutes for a Whino to respond (as Damo is a baboon, he's omitted) to the initial post. You lot sure don't hang around....
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"You should have cut off the rest of your post as Graham doesn't frequently make any of the motions required for it to be a wear and tear problem.'"
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The way Graham this season has been more a battering ram, he is no way like the player he was, partly due to the way Potter is using him.
I am no way a Leeds supporter, but if the Graham injury was down to Leeds who is guilty then at St Helens for the injury to Sinfield?
Players get injured in rugby league and it is a sad day if medical teams try to put the blame on one player and one incident. No wonder there is bad feeling with the two teams, everyone need to calm down.
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| Quote jaybs="jaybs"I am no way a Leeds supporter, but if the Graham injury was down to Leeds who is guilty then at St Helens for the injury to Sinfield?'"
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| Quote jaybs="jaybs"I am no way a Leeds supporter, but if the Graham injury was down to Leeds who is guilty then at St Helens for the injury to Sinfield?'"
Clash of heads. (And it was only bruising in the end, no break)
Quote jaybsPlayers get injured in rugby league and it is a sad day if medical teams try to put the blame on one player and one incident. No wonder there is bad feeling with the two teams, everyone need to calm down.'"
One thing having a clash of heads; another entirely to spend time deliberately pushing back a player's arm and shoulder to the point where injury is caused. |
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Clash of heads. (And it was only bruising in the end, no break)
One thing having a clash of heads; another entirely to spend time deliberately pushing back a player's arm and shoulder to the point where injury is caused.'"
The simple solution is obvious. 
The RFL simply have to ban any attempt to turtle or turn a player once he has made initial contact with the ground.
End Of.
No one wants to see ANY player deliberately injured and I suspect thats the basis of JJBs appeal although I do think it is a dangerous move and could easily backfire.
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I'm equally as concerned with the hair pulling that is creeping into the game. I mean, come on... pulling f'ckin' hair??!?!
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| Quote kendall17="kendall17"Maybe, if they admit that it may not have been the JJB & KS that caused this injury.'"
Give it a rest, you are the most boring respondent I,ve come across this season, its like reading Groundhog Day and can,t get to the end of the book. |
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| Quote hamiltonsaint="hamiltonsaint"A Saints Spokesman said: leeds ended cayless's season have they now ended Graham's?'"
Graham's season is not confirmed as over and your own club website says the Cayless injury happened at Wakefield but don't let that stop you blaming Leeds for every ill ever to befall your club |
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| Quote MSH="MSH"Christ, a professional has said so, is that not enough?'"
would this be the same professional who advised coach Potter that player Wilkin would not be fit to play in the game? |
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| Quote Rhinos Fan Pam="Rhinos Fan Pam"Graham's season is not confirmed as over and your own club website says the Cayless injury happened at Wakefield but don't let that stop you blaming Leeds for every ill ever to befall your club'"
We don't. We blame Terry Newton! |
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| Quote .Alice.=".Alice."We don't. We blame Terry Newton!'"
Can you imagine if he played for Leeds still. I'm sure they would have built a wall across the hills and we'd be bombing them. |
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| Quote DoubleAone="DoubleAone"Love it...Freudian Slip
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| Quote Rhinos Fan Pam="Rhinos Fan Pam"Graham's season is not confirmed as over and your own club website says the Cayless injury happened at Wakefield but don't let that stop you blaming Leeds for every ill ever to befall your club'"
he played a week later in the cup and that's when he was rule dout when jamie peacock did a chicken wing tackle on him scumbags |
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| Quote hamiltonsaint="hamiltonsaint"he played a week later in the cup and that's when he was rule dout when jamie peacock did a chicken wing tackle on him scumbags'"
Ah now I understand. Your club doctor can identify the tackle which injured Graham's shoulder but not the match that did Cayless's shoulder!
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| Quote jaybs="jaybs"
Players get injured in rugby league and it is a sad day if medical teams try to put the blame on one player and one incident. No wonder there is bad feeling with the two teams, everyone need to calm down.'"
Quote jaybs I'm equally as concerned with the hair pulling that is creeping into the game. I mean, come on... pulling f'ckin' hair??!?!'"
Started off at your place with Lee Smith being the subject to hair pulling... didn't it? or am i making things up? |
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| Quote kendall17="kendall17"Started off at your place with Lee Smith being the subject to hair pulling... didn't it? or am i making things up?'"
You're making things up.
And you're on here again.
Not seen the RFL report yet?
[url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary_item.php?id=1443Here it is[/url |
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| Quote kendall17="kendall17"eusa_clap.gif
Started off at your place with Lee Smith being the subject to hair pulling... didn't it? or am i making things up?'"
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan":13os4gkhYou're making things up.
And you're on here again.
Not seen the RFL report yet?
[url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary_item.php?id=1443:13os4gkhHere it is[/url:13os4gkh'" :13os4gkh
I agree with the RFL's actions and felt it could've been more than 1 match. I disagree with Saints putting the entire blame on JG's injury on JJB - I've stated this many a time!
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| Quote kendall17="kendall17"I agree with the RFL's actions and felt it could've been more than 1 match. I disagree with Saints putting the entire blame on JG's injury on JJB - I've stated this many a time!'"
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