My thoughts exactly as a neutral.

It may have looked it but you cannot say it was.



Again you cannot say it was that incident aswell, but it could've been.



It was worthy of more than a 1 match ban.



Am i defending it? No, just saying that you can't say that it was that incident that caused this injury.

Do you mean you're?

Well of course we should hang every one who looks guilty





luckily in this country they view all the evidence first and then come to a judgement....



which of course is what happened on Tuesday evening in case you might have forgotten

Its amazing how the medics can pin point this injury. You have a 1 in 47 (collisions) chance of pin pointing this injury.



And thanks for that. I'll do that when you've proven that JJB caused Graham's injury.



Til then i'll defend my corner

You still here?



Unless you are JJB, it isn't your corner to defend. JJB is the one accused of the chicken wing.



Meanwhile, go home. You're making yourself look like a real prat.

I'm not defending JJB's corner or actions or tackling technique. I'm defending the fact that JJB & Seniors tackle on Graham cannot be proven to have caused his injury.

Whether it was caused by that specific tackle or not, that type of tactic will cause potentially career-threatening injuries. The rotator cuff is very delicate and severe damage can never be fully rectified even with surgery.



If I was in charge, the tactic would carry an automatic 5 match ban, that would soon discourage players/teams from employing it. In fact, the NRL are extremely strict about it, and its about time the RFL followed suit.

Agreed, i want it out of the game.

Graham has got a rotator cuff injury directly caused by a chicken wing tackle. That was the only chicken wing tackle made on Graham during the match. Chicken wing tackles, when severe enough, cause rotator cuff injuries.

So it is only Chicken wing tackles that cause this type of injury?

Please give it a rest

Maybe, if they admit that it may not have been the JJB & KS that caused this injury.

It's never going to happen and neither will you back down.



About time you put your effort into something else, it's pointless neither of you can prove it one way or the other.

Ignoring the Leeds fans on this, I hope it isn't serious and we're just giving his shoulder an extra week to heal. I think it'll do him the world of good. We need him more than most firing in the Play Offs.

Agreed. He gets through a ridiculous amount of work and, inadvertently, this could do him the world of good.

Agreed.





We need him on the field

Terrible. If he's out for the season we can kiss any faint hopes we had goodbye.

Christ, a professional has said so, is that not enough?

The same pro that let him play on "knowing" apparently the full extent of the injury

Nope it isn't I'm afraid. The professional concerned could stake his reputation on the argument that the KFC caused the injury, a professional from Leeds however could find otherwise, result is that the fowl on Jammer really is inconclusive as to being the cause to any injury to his rotator cuff.



Just because a professional has spoken out on the matter doesn't mean it's 100% certain, after all, when you get professionals cutting players mouths deliberately to back up an on-field occurrence (Ok in Onion, but still a professional nonetheless), whoever pays the wages will have the last say on what and what isn't the cause.

I think you will see a miraculous recovery next week

What they said

Love it...Freudian Slip

FFS. Give it a rest.



Chicken wing tackles cause rotator cuff injuries - FACT.

James Graham suffered a chicken wing tackle - FACT.

The chicken wing tackle in question was deemed to have the potential to cause injury and JJB was found GUILTY of the offence by an independent panel - FACT.



It doesn't take fecking Columbo to work out why Graham is not playing against Catalan.