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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"How are we accumulating backup? He is our first signing for next year. We are likely to clear the decks of a few fringe players during the off-season. There'll be other signings to come.
I think you are moaning before there is actually anything to moan about mate.'"
I'm not 'moaning', I'm expressing concern. If it were to the end of this season, I'd be 100% behind it. I don't really see the value in next season, or rather I don't see the value in giving him a deal for next season now. If he comes in and does well, give him a deal then.
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| There will be a few quid spare for next term when Mose and Walsh have gone home.
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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"That's harsh mate. He will be there to provide back up essentially next year.'"
That's true, particularly in the case of Lomax. Sadly it's still unknown if he will be able to play to the same standard again.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"I'm not 'moaning', I'm expressing concern. If it were to the end of this season, I'd be 100% behind it. I don't really see the value in next season, or rather I don't see the value in giving him a deal for next season now. If he comes in and does well, give him a deal then.'"
So you think that there are absolutely no question marks over how Lomax will return? If he will actually manage to make it through a season? Even if he does will he ever be the player he had the potential to be? And thus you see no value of mitigating these risks?
We were never going to sign a fullback to be ahead of Lomax, given the rumours of Lomax's wage. McDonnell is a super league quality back up and covers the backline ... Because it's not like we ever have trouble in that area!
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| People complaining about signing a decent backup for an injury hit squad in a position we have injuries and indeed injury prone players.
Only in St Helens
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| He's the Mayweather of league but he put in a shift for us.
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| Wakefield can take him on loan until you decide if you need him if you like 
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| Quote redex113="redex113"There will be a few quid spare for next term when Mose and Walsh have gone home.'"
Walsh will be here.
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| what's up with roby then?
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| Quote RIGSBY="RIGSBY"what's up with roby then?'"
Haven't you been keeping up? Roby's been shot for weeks.
Probably exhausted.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"I can understand for this year but next year is a joke of a signing.'"
you wont be saying that when he is scoring tries for fun.
he is a very good fullback,good pace coming into the line and backs up well.
He wasn't fully fit when he played the few games for you but still scored tries.
Definitely egg on your face with those comments mark my words
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| There's a decent highlights reel of McDonnell on YouTube I think. If he's anywhere near as good for us we'll do just fine.
Good upper body strength. Good feet. Good speed. What's not to like?
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| It depends on his wages. If he's taken Lances big bucks then not a good deal. If he's on top 10 but not top 3 earners, its good business, hes an actual utility player. I suspect it's the latter option and he's just what we need
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"It depends on his wages. If he's taken Lances big bucks then not a good deal. If he's on top 10 but not top 3 earners, its good business, hes an actual utility player. I suspect it's the latter option and he's just what we need'"
He's nowhere near top 3 earners.
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| Quote The Yellow Giraffe="The Yellow Giraffe"He's nowhere near top 3 earners.'"
As i suspected. A good signing as i really believe Lomax is done, at least as the player he was.
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"As i suspected. A good signing as i really believe Lomax is done, at least as the player he was.'"
Lomax will play again next year, the club are confident of that. I share your reservations about the standard at which he can return though.
The deal makes sense in that it buys us 12 months to sign a replacement if needs be. Lomax has time to prove himself and McDonnell has the next 12 months to prove he's good enough and earn another deal. If neither of things happen then I imagine a big name full back will be high priority for 2017.
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| 50% Lomax is better than McDonnell. If he's as good as some people are saying, then why didn't we offer him a deal last year? Why did no other club want to sign him ? Why hasnt he played first grade with wests?
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| Quote St pete="St pete"50% Lomax is better than McDonnell. If he's as good as some people are saying, then why didn't we offer him a deal last year? Why did no other club want to sign him ? Why hasnt he played first grade with wests?'"
I don't think anyone is really making him out to be anything special mate. He's an average super league full back but with 2 full backs injured and another retired, it's a signing we had to make.
We didn't offer him a deal last year because nobody could have planned ahead for us to be down to our 4th choice full back at this early stage in the season.
And an extremely good player in James Tedesco was keeping him out of the Wests side.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"50% Lomax is better than McDonnell. If he's as good as some people are saying, then why didn't we offer him a deal last year? Why did no other club want to sign him ? Why hasnt he played first grade with wests?'"
50% of THIS SEASON's Lomax wouldn't make the Haydock second team.
I'm sure you'll put words in all our mouths that he's "World Class". I just want to point out this straw man before you decide to plonk it in the field.
At best he's a solid player who's in his prime, has plenty of experience and is cheap. Evidence suggests he's pretty nippy, has good feet and decent upper body strength.
Given our situation we'd be mad to turn him down. You clearly feel differently and already you're teeing him up to be the next Mose. Sad.
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| I've drank a bottle of red wine tonight, but I reckon he'll score 3 tomorrow against Wakefield.
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| Surely he will be jet lagged. How long has he been in the country.
My only worry is the control of the defensive line.
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"My only worry is the control of the defensive line.'"
Not one of Lomax's better qualities either
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| Quote Mugwump="Mugwump"50% of THIS SEASON's Lomax wouldn't make the Haydock second team.
I'm sure you'll put words in all our mouths that he's "World Class". I just want to point out this straw man before you decide to plonk it in the field.
At best he's a solid player who's in his prime, has plenty of experience and is cheap. Evidence suggests he's pretty nippy, has good feet and decent upper body strength.
Given our situation we'd be mad to turn him down. You clearly feel differently and already you're teeing him up to be the next Mose. Sad.'"
Fu*k off you complete idiot! You are a total muppet whos obsessed with me. I'm sure Sharon is your type of player but he's rubbish.
He's chesp and would be ok for the end of this season as we lost lomax, Wello and lance and like I said, any fool can see tommy isn't a fullback. To give him a deal lol get than this year is terrible.
I've never said Lomax is world class unlike you said about our pack. He's a good fullback and fits into saints style.
Sharon is good back up player, he's pretty quick but he's not the sort of player super league champs and im your biased opionon will walk it this year. Wigan bring in tomkins for next year and we are bringing in a second rate Nrl nsw cup player.
Is he our marquee signing ?
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Fu*k off you complete idiot! You are a total muppet whos obsessed with me. I'm sure Sharon is your type of player but he's rubbish.
He's chesp and would be ok for the end of this season as we lost lomax, Wello and lance and like I said, any fool can see tommy isn't a fullback. To give him a deal lol get than this year is terrible.
I've never said Lomax is world class unlike you said about our pack. He's a good fullback and fits into saints style.
Sharon is good back up player, he's pretty quick but he's not the sort of player super league champs and im your biased opionon will walk it this year. Wigan bring in tomkins for next year and we are bringing in a second rate Nrl nsw cup player.
Is he our marquee signing ?'"
Wow that was a big time hissy fit. Chill out man.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Fu*k off you complete idiot! You are a total muppet whos obsessed with me. I'm sure Sharon is your type of player but he's rubbish.
He's chesp and would be ok for the end of this season as we lost lomax, Wello and lance and like I said, any fool can see tommy isn't a fullback. To give him a deal lol get than this year is terrible.
I've never said Lomax is world class unlike you said about our pack. He's a good fullback and fits into saints style.
Sharon is good back up player, he's pretty quick but he's not the sort of player super league champs and im your biased opionon will walk it this year. Wigan bring in tomkins for next year and we are bringing in a second rate Nrl nsw cup player.
Is he our marquee signing ?'"
What if next year he is replacing Dawson in our squad ? Mcdonell is a better player than Dawson and SWift
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