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| Quote chapylad="chapylad"It wasn`t poor technique at all.
Ablett tackles Makinson and as he goes down Sinfield comes in and clocks him one. Unintentional and no malice.
Sinfield is not a dirty player end of.
By the way the panel reckon Sinfield has no case to answer.'"
Sorry was supposed to have typed wasn't malicious.
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| Sinfield's tackle was tired and clumsy and nothing more - it would be very, very harsh to give him a ban for it. Which, under the current RL Randomised Punishment System means he'll probably get a 4 match ban for it...
...and I'd have loved to have been reading the "Meli is the evil son of Satan and must be stoned to death on the Town Hall steps" thread that would have been here if he'd messed up that tackle instead of the current Teflon one. Makinson does a lot of good stuff but still a lot of bad stuff - he's a young 'un still so that's only natural and understandable and I wouldn't criticise him for any of it, but the one-eyed leeway he gets compared to most of the rest of the squad is a little amusing, even taking age/experience into account.
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| Quote WidnesExile="WidnesExile"hang on lets be objective.
He's a good young player but.
He missed a tackle on Ryan Hall with a poor effort which resulted in a try.
He also was guilty of lying on badly in the Leeds half from which they got a penalty and scored on the first tackle! I don't think he needed to do this I think the cover had got back.'"
Ryan Hall has not looked out of place playing against the Aussies, missing a tackle on him is hardly the sign of inadequacy.
I watched on the tv, so may be wrong, but from what I could tell the cover was nowhere near back and had he not delayed the tackle they'd have scored anyway.
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| Quote Northampton_Saint="Northampton_Saint"
...and I'd have loved to have been reading the "Meli is the evil son of Satan and must be stoned to death on the Town Hall steps" thread that would have been here if he'd messed up that tackle instead of the current Teflon one. Makinson does a lot of good stuff but still a lot of bad stuff - he's a young 'un still so that's only natural and understandable and I wouldn't criticise him for any of it, but the one-eyed leeway he gets compared to most of the rest of the squad is a little amusing, even taking age/experience into account.'"
That would of course rely on someone actually watching the game, and not simply trot out someone else's opinion about the GF 3 years ago. If Meli, Shenton, Wellens and Flannery leave at the end of the season, and god forbid Hohaia and Perry go too, the doom n gloom brigade will go into meltdown. Who will they turn their attention to then?
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| Quote Northampton_Saint="Northampton_Saint"Makinson does a lot of good stuff but still a lot of bad stuff - he's a young 'un still so that's only natural and understandable and I wouldn't criticise him for any of it, but the one-eyed leeway he gets compared to most of the rest of the squad is a little amusing, even taking age/experience into account.'"
Thing is, though, Makinson doesn't do a LOT of 'bad' stuff. He occasionally makes a mistake. But he does a lot of GOOD stuff and when he does his GOOD stuff, it is generally outstanding. And he is our youngest and least experienced player. Therefore, he is the opposite in all respects to Meli.
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| No case to answer for Sinfield. I must say, there appeared to be only minimal contact, so reckon Makinson should be put in the same glass chin category as Fairy Fielden. However, I'm also sure that he won't let this end his career, unlike good old Stu.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Thing is, though, Makinson doesn't do a LOT of 'bad' stuff. He occasionally makes a mistake. But he does a lot of GOOD stuff and when he does his GOOD stuff, it is generally outstanding. And he is our youngest and least experienced player. Therefore, he is the opposite in all respects to Meli.'"
I thought Makinson was outstanding again last night and more than held his own against arguably one of the top 3 wingers in the world. This kid has so much potential, yes he will make the odd mistake but nobody is perfect and the good things he does far outweigh the odd negative. Heard this morning his injury isn't as bad as first feared so hopefully he is back soon.
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| Quote SomersetSaint="SomersetSaint"That would of course rely on someone actually watching the game, and not simply trot out someone else's opinion about the GF 3 years ago. If Meli, Shenton, Wellens and Flannery leave at the end of the season, and god forbid Hohaia and Perry go too, the doom n gloom brigade will go into meltdown. Who will they turn their attention to then?'"
I think Foster and Gardner (even if he was on crutches) would need to be reintroduced to the team immediately or Wilkin's head would explode with the concentrated unjustified kneejerk numpty hatred being focused entirely on him and him alone, a bit like in "Scanners"
Either that or they'll all have to turn in on themselves and start tearing into each other for each and every defeat or tiny mistake. Lucky the seats are red as the stands would be running with blood....
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"No he didn't. He had a good game last night.'"
I thought that he had a wow of a game,ok he was steam rollered by Hall but that is no great shame as he has done the same and to more experienced test players
Tommy again looked outstanding and is definately our heir apparent to the FB spot once Wellens retires or moves to loose forward
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| Quote I Grope Balls="I Grope Balls"Tommy again looked outstanding and is definately our heir apparent to the FB spot once Wellens retires or moves to loose forward'"
Totally agree. It seems the coaching staff were impressed with his performance on Monday night too and he will be a big miss against Wigan on Sunday given that he was one of our best players against them last time out.
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| Quote I Grope Balls="I Grope Balls"I thought that he had a wow of a game,ok he was steam rollered by Hall but that is no great shame as he has done the same and to more experienced test players
Tommy again looked outstanding and is definately our heir apparent to the FB spot once Wellens retires or moves to loose forward'"
Will we ever see him play fullback for an extended period though? He should have been there developing over the last 2 years and could be an international quality fullback by now. But instead we're okay because we've got Wello, and he doesn't drop the ball many times.
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| Quote I Grope Balls="I Grope Balls"I thought that he had a wow of a game,ok he was steam rollered by Hall but that is no great shame as he has done the same and to more experienced test players
Tommy again looked outstanding and is definately our heir apparent to the FB spot once Wellens retires or moves to loose forward'"
Whilst he's been decent at wing, I don't see how this proves him to be the FB next year or the year after.
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| Quote bewareshadows="bewareshadows"Whilst he's been decent at wing, I don't see how this proves him to be the FB next year or the year after.'"
to be fair, the basics of full back are simple
Can he catch a high ball - tick
Has he good positional play - tick
Can he tackle effectively - tick
plus he's got bags of pace and can beat a man. He's a big attacking threat, Im not saying he is definitely our next FB, but he's got the skills to do it IMO
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| I'm glad tommy scored that try at Leeds. Maybe now people will stop banging on about tommy can't do a "foster" stick try.
Tommy is very very good player with big heart.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"I'm glad tommy scored that try at Leeds. Maybe now people will stop banging on about tommy can't do a "foster" stick try.
Tommy is very very good player with big heart.'"
He's so much better than Foster its unreal.
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"He's so much better than Foster its unreal.'"
Yeah but.............. Foster has his own hairdressers has a BMW and wears flashy boots 
& is well fit 
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"He's so much better than Foster its unreal.'"
Foster achieved much more and looked a much better player in his first year in the team than Makinson has to date. This is a completely nonsense comparison.
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| Quote Northampton_Saint="Northampton_Saint"Foster achieved much more and looked a much better player in his first year in the team than Makinson has to date. This is a completely nonsense comparison.'"
Foster IS a quality player and his time will come
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| Quote sanjunien="sanjunien"Foster IS a quality player and his time will come'"
He's a quality goal kicker. Apart from that he is average at best.
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| Quote SomersetSaint="SomersetSaint"He's a quality goal kicker. Apart from that he is average at best.'"
he's coming up 22 and is still developing - he will beef up, grow up and then we will see how good he is
last season, due to injuries to senior players Saints were forced into playing the kids and they did a great job so let's carry on the good work
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| Foster isnt even stand out at reserve grade level. Appears to have this "ive made it attitude" the hairdressers deco tells you all you need to know about him. You'd think he was a veteran test player. No speed or size, heart of a gnat but can kick goals. Can go tommorrow for me, Swift, Jones & Percival all better players without the side show. Seems to spend more time on the golf course than the gym or training pitch. Not seen anywhere near the desire to get back into the first team as I would have envisaged.
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| Quote theres only one stan wall="theres only one stan wall" Not seen anywhere near the desire to get back into the first team as I would have envisaged.'"
Please tell me what you base this statement on?
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| Quote theres only one stan wall="theres only one stan wall"Foster isnt even stand out at reserve grade level. Appears to have this "ive made it attitude" the hairdressers deco tells you all you need to know about him. You'd think he was a veteran test player. No speed or size, heart of a gnat but can kick goals. Can go tommorrow for me, Swift, Jones & Percival all better players without the side show. Seems to spend more time on the golf course than the gym or training pitch. Not seen anywhere near the desire to get back into the first team as I would have envisaged.'"
To be fair, i've never seen any evidence of this "attitude". Yes he has a 12 yr olds hair cut, but so what, have you seen Sia's barnet recently???
Purely based on rugby i dont think he's good enough, even his kicking has gone downhill this year and Makinson isnt a bad kicker either. I hope im wrong and he comes back and rips the league apart, but i cant see it
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| Quote theres only one stan wall="theres only one stan wall"Foster isnt even stand out at reserve grade level. Appears to have this "ive made it attitude" the hairdressers deco tells you all you need to know about him. You'd think he was a veteran test player. No speed or size, heart of a gnat but can kick goals. Can go tommorrow for me, Swift, Jones & Percival all better players without the side show. Seems to spend more time on the golf course than the gym or training pitch. Not seen anywhere near the desire to get back into the first team as I would have envisaged.'"
so, was the same Jamie Foster last season when socoring some superb tries and kicking like a veteran a bad player then ?
so actually he was a good (ish) player but is now a load of crap, is that it ?
he's become a bad player in a season ?
why can't we positive about someones ability (or lack of) until proven otherwise ?
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