Absolutely.

Couldn't agree more.



As for the Saints kids, they have really produced the goods this season.

Fantastic performances to be where we are in the table with our injury list.

I've lost count of the number of championship winning academy players who've failed to make the grade. I've similarly lost count of the number of modestly gifted youngsters who've gone on to become stars of SL (Roby and Wellens being two obvious examples).



Rogues can favour who he likes. The truth is form in the reserve grades isn't worth a carrot next to form in SL. Wigan's kids may go on to become yet another lost generation. Ditto Saints. Indeed, it could be that one of the less well-thought-of academies achieves the most success.



Moreover, it's utterly naive to think an entire academy will turn out "better" than another. Given that these kids are all at different ages and mature mentally and physically at entirely different rates it's impossible to draw any rational conclusions.



We will know for sure once these lads have reached the peak of their powers somewhere around 22 or 23. Until that point all arguments are completely worthless.

I don't detest Wigan fans, but I imagine I feel the same about them as most of Victorian London did about the Elephant Man.

You mean you worry about the safety issues surrounding large crowds at popular attractons? I know we have the biggest attendances in the league but it's fine mate, no need to worry.

I have to agree as a Saints fan living in Billinge. I have a lot of mates who don't know anything at all about rugby ( I.E. Wiganers) but we get on fine until derby day. Then for 80 mins we don't speak, or we take the mick out of each other, then it's forgotten until next time.

I stopped reading after this.



King of the back handed compliments. Everything is BUT Wigan do it better. This youngster signed for Saints because Wigan did not want him or he could not get a game here blah blah, he has been a Wigan fan all his life blah blah.

I played RU with a lot of the same lads from the age of 14 until I was 29. When I was a school boy, I was a solid player, but alot of the other lads would catch your eye first. By the time we were 23, I was getting picked for 1st grade seniors infront of guys who were way ahead of me at junior level.