Quote ="Rogues Gallery"As soon as I saw the Saints sub bench last night I thought Wigan would win. The Saints bench was lightweight. Magennis and Dixon are at best average players and Eastmonds head is elsewhere (I still think he will be gone in July/August once the RU players start pre season) Perry was a big loss to Saints last night, not necessarily because he is a very good player but just his physical ">size.'" Magennis is awful. I thought this for a while as well, this isn't a reaction based on last nights performance, although i thought he was the worst player on the pitch last night. He constantly get's knocked back in both attack and defence, and he makes plenty of mistakes too. Yesterday though, we looked very weak when he was on. Simmons took him off, and IIRC, he never returned.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"As soon as I saw the Saints sub bench last night I thought Wigan would win. The Saints bench was lightweight. Magennis and Dixon are at best average players and Eastmonds head is elsewhere (I still think he will be gone in July/August once the RU players start pre season) Perry was a big loss to Saints last night, not necessarily because he is a very good player but just his physical ">size.'" Magennis is awful. I thought this for a while as well, this isn't a reaction based on last nights performance, although i thought he was the worst player on the pitch last night. He constantly get's knocked back in both attack and defence, and he makes plenty of mistakes too. Yesterday though, we looked very weak when he was on. Simmons took him off, and IIRC, he never returned.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Joe Greenwood was superb for Saints in their U20 game v Wigan at Orrell in April. He looked a very good ">prospect.'" He's been given a first team shirt in recent weeks, as has Jordan Hand and Warren Thompson. Only Warren Thompson got a debut during our injury crisis period though. However, we shouldn't need to wait for injuries to give debuts.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Joe Greenwood was superb for Saints in their U20 game v Wigan at Orrell in April. He looked a very good ">prospect.'" He's been given a first team shirt in recent weeks, as has Jordan Hand and Warren Thompson. Only Warren Thompson got a debut during our injury crisis period though. However, we shouldn't need to wait for injuries to give debuts.

Quote ="FearTheVee"Why? He's far more experienced than, say, Chris Tuson who played for Wigan. I'd assume Ashurst has made double Tuson's SL ">appearances.'" A run by Tuson and a run by Ashurst summed up the night. Tuson, who I've never thought of anything more than a good club youngster, came on and took the ball up with real bite, making decent yards and landing on his front. Shortly after it was Ashurst's turn and he jogged, slowly, onto the ball and got dumped right next to the previous PTB. Magennis does seem to have some capability for good offloads and good lines, but he gets dominated a lot in contact. I've always been very positve about the 3 of the young back rows, but seeing the difference in strength when flanders (who's no star) is taking the ball up shows they're way behind where you want. That said, I remember thinking Paul Clough was too small when I first saw him. So even I'm wrong sometimes.

Quote ="FearTheVee"Why? He's far more experienced than, say, Chris Tuson who played for Wigan. I'd assume Ashurst has made double Tuson's SL ">appearances.'" A run by Tuson and a run by Ashurst summed up the night. Tuson, who I've never thought of anything more than a good club youngster, came on and took the ball up with real bite, making decent yards and landing on his front. Shortly after it was Ashurst's turn and he jogged, slowly, onto the ball and got dumped right next to the previous PTB. Magennis does seem to have some capability for good offloads and good lines, but he gets dominated a lot in contact. I've always been very positve about the 3 of the young back rows, but seeing the difference in strength when flanders (who's no star) is taking the ball up shows they're way behind where you want. That said, I remember thinking Paul Clough was too small when I first saw him. So even I'm wrong sometimes.

Wire will definitely look to dominate in the same way the goons did, exploiting the act that we have zero impact from the bench. I think the only player that has offered any form of impact this season is Scott Moore - brain explosions aside.



Dixon/Ashurst/Magennis - at the moment average with potential



TP quiet since new contract signed



Graham - still our best forward in terms of effort and contribution



LMS - Not as much impact as we would have hoped for - but appears enthusiastic



Perry - lacking match fitness but we could do with seeing some form sooner rather than later



On the plus side we can have had excellent seasons so far from Roby & Wilkin



Soliola improving & Flannery has had a promising return from injury.



I still personally wouldn't swap any of the above for Sean (swinging arms ninny) O'loughlin thank you very much

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