Cuthbo aside, I think all our forwards are complete plodders.

Cuthbertsons best at 13 and imo the best 13 in the league,I think ward is a quality backrower and could be even better if his skills were used more often and i quite like garbutt but other than that i agree,our other props and backrowers are pretty poor,lots of hard work but no dynamism or threat atall

god forbid it is

Moon was exposed for what he is a very good centre playing out of position

A few top flight signings before the start of next season would be very welcome. But not at the cost of spending more than we can afford. I doubt Bradford fans look back at their over spending period with a warm glow from their view point of the third tier of RL. Stadium development, whilst much needed, will add strain to our financial position and I suspect that, rightly, the board will be prudent in their spending elsewhere, including retention and recruitment.

no point having a great stadium but dwindling crowds as the team drops. if you can't factor in the full cap then it's a sad state we've got into

Those crowds would still be the envy of top of the table Cas, or top four fighting Wakefield and Salford, so not really an excuse at all.

No-one is suggesting spebding more than we've got just recruiting/promoting from within as we used to.
You can still sign good players without breaking the bank if you get the recruitment right & the youngsters coming through are nurtured properly.

Ferres also gives to many penalties away !

I don't disagree. But IMO the club have a history of being financially conservative and I don't see that changing whilst we are in the midst of major stadium redevelopment.



I agree but I think that the view may be that if we can stay in the top 6 and be challenging for some silverware, that will keep the faithful turning up in sufficient numbers to fill the reduced capacity stadium while the re-building is completed. I expect gradual year on year, steady away, squad improvement.

I was hoping Ferres was out of contract,no such luck.
If we sold him by the pound we might get more of our money back.
UNFIT PLAYERS SHOULD NOT BE ON THE PITCH IRRESPECTIVE OF AGE OR EXPERIENCE.

That shot of Shauls try with Ferres plodding behind him was appalling. Really does show everyone just how unbelievably out of shape Ferres is.

Ferres at the moment does not seem interested. If he was unable to train due to injury why did he allow himself to pile on all that weight. This quite obviously is affecting his all round performance. Which also begs the question why did the rhinos conditioning staff not highlight his ballooning weight. Or did he choose to ignore them?

At 31 years old and 32 by next April it's going to be hard to see him shift too much weight. Whether with us or a new club I can see a move to prop as likely. Could actually do a very good job there most likely.

I reckon if we used him in short bursts he could be the impact second rower we've been crying out for. He doesn't suit the grafting game McDermott expects from our starting second row and we could make good use of his offload game against tired bodies.

Anybody can lose weight, the first step is eat the right kind of food, then do the right kind of training/excersise. Not certain if ferres is a drinking man but usually when you see a relatively young man pile on weight beer is involved. If not junk food or a combination of both. Which brings me back to the rhinos conditioning team what is the input of them in this situation.
To me ferres seemed a good signing and played well until his injury. Ref his injury, perhaps I missed it somewhere but I was not aware of the nature of his injury. I read that it did not allow him to train but did not stop him from playing .

Can't believe what I just read. Early 30 year olds can't lose weight.

You didn't read that, I didn't say he couldn't I said it'll be hard and it will be. Most early 30 years old don't take the punishment RL bodies take and carrying knocks and injuries and the older players do find it tough to train the next few days after games. Not saying he couldn't shed s few pounds but realistically he's not going to shift too much now I'd say.

I'm 33 (today) and play rugby, made a few changes to my diet since January and dropped from 205lbs to 180lbs. I still eat effectively what I want, but it's all around hitting your Fat, Carb and Protein Macro's. So today for Dinner, it is Hunters Chicken, loads of melted cheese, but it fits into my day. The weight is falling off. So someone telling me a full time SL player, a year younger than me cannot do it when I have done the above, makes me laugh

Do you play SL level rugby and in the forwards (guessing not if you're down to around 12st) and suffered the injuries Ferres has in the last 3 years? Again didn't say he couldn't lose any weight but realistically he ain't going to lose much.

I think it is very hard to get the right example into players for weight and conditioning, when you only have to look at our conditioner who is preaching to them. Was not as bad as that in his hey day as the best around, until he became complacent with his role.

But Ferres will struggle to lose the weight full stop, as long as he is continually on the pish with certain players.

I have to laugh every time I see our conditioner.
Not exactly one to set a good example is he?

We found another target of someone who has helped bring lots of success to this club to abuse, belittle and slander now?

Such amazing gratitude

I reckon Nigel Wood must have been conditioning Ferres.

You can't always judge a book by it's cover chapylad

Some other examples of overweight porkers that don't set very good examples


Toni Minichiello coach and conditioner of Jess Ennis


Glen Mills coach and conditioner of Usain Bolt


Not sure if either of the above coaches/conditioners proved successful or not?