Isn’t the plan to have him back playing by seasons end? Or have I missed something?

Plus isnt the signing deadline this week?

Whether they're trying to get him back to match fitness or not is obviously a medical issue firstly, but secondly whether they feel we've missed him in the first place. I'd say I don't think we'll notice much difference if he does return.

He will want game time to show he can do it fir his next club.

Wether Leeds want to risk it will be another matter.



I'm sure we will see him once there is nothing to play for

I don't think he'll be doing us any favors after he had to pay his own medical bills also think Austin sh#t in his own bed going public about it with online auction etc to help pay for it.

Wasn't that debunked ?

Massive rebuild needed it will be 2025-26 before we can be a force. Its the 80’s again I’m afraid, I wouldn’t play any players who are leaving next season again, Likes of Sezar Bentley have been up there with worst signing ever.

I'll say it every week, it's never changing until the people at the top making the decisions change. It's impossible to outrun that many terrible decisions. Every squad they build is next years deadwood that we need to try get rid of and adds two more years onto our "transition period". That term needs to be changed because it's just not true anymore, we're not in a transition we're just a terribly run club being terrible.



We will never compete again with the same people picking our players and manager.

Yes. Hetherington needs to stop making any rugby decisions. Now. Every rugby decision he makes turns to sh*t.

no no no. its a brilliantly run club, brilliantly coached.

according to some



or have I got it wrong again?????

Smith is now mostly in charge of identifying who to sign, that much has become clear.

But will/can we sign the players he asks for ?

and do you trust him? Will he sign players for a system that everyone but him can see doesn't work?

My god.

Who knows,hopefully he does xD

You might jest but I bet if RS wants passive defenders and short kicks or none that's easy to find

Are Lisone or McDonnell passive defenders?

He got Olpherts who would be the difference according to him how did that turn out? The guy is a charlatan.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I am finding the whole thing with Smith a bit conflicting now, for one main reason. He’s clearly a good ‘coach.’ It seems to me a lot of individuals in the squad, especially the younger end have improved under him. The likes of Walters, Holroyd, McDonnell, O’Conner, Johnson and even Roberts, who looked nowhere near first team level to start the year have all improved as individuals.



What I’m maybe starting to question is whether he’s ‘head coach’ material, certainly with the current level of support. He just can’t seem to pull us together as a team consistently. Yes some of that’s also falls on the inconsistent individuals we have in the squad.



I actually think he could do with a really strong second in command with some head coach experience.

That’s a good point I think Craig Lingard from Batley would be great in that role, he’s gone to Cas though I think

Thought id have s look at the 2015 1-17, looking at it its blatantly obvious that our squad today just isn’t good enough. I think theres maybe only Mitch Achurch that would lose his spot to a current 1-17 this year.



1. Hardaker

2. Briscoe

3. Callim Watkins

4. Joel Moon

5. Ryan Hall

6. Danny Mcguire

7. Rob Burrow

8. Kylie Leuluiai

9. Paul Aiton

10. Jamie Peacock

11. JJB

12. Carl Ablett

13. Kevin Sinfield



14. Stevie Ward

15. Brett Delaney

16. Mitch Achurch

17. Adam Cuthbertson





That’s quite a sobering and depressing read.

Shows just how asleep at the wheel GH has been and for how long…

Indeed. Just look at the quality academy produced players in that group sprinkled with some very astute overseas talent like Aiton, Moon, Delaney, Cuthbo, Leuluiai

Worth noting that Aiton and Moon were overseas via SL as well. That’s something else we haven’t got right recently and there’s no excuse for not having scouted them properly.