I have told the original point. You keep going round the houses to somehow determine the player didn't get what he wanted, when he did. That is all I have corrected. Now to stop the childish pishing contest you seem to want, I have given you a bone on a negotiation the player didn't win.

You danced around wants he's actually wanted and asked for weeks .

If Leeds has essentially lied about Walker demanding to play only one position and posted a quote from him backing that up in their statement ONLY two weeks.....if that's all BS then why has he signed up so quickly afterwards. Leeds won't have changed any stance on anything since that statement was realised, GH and BM are too stubborn.

Its pointless discussing it with you mate, as you constantly contradict and change your point.

There is no change from me, which has been consistent all along, it is just it differs from your made up view of what was said, a view you seem to think is fine, but bad mouth others who know something different.

How many times have I actually said now about what his demand was? yet you still seem to want to twist it into something different for some reason. Leeds did change their stance, and contacted him and agent last week for a further meeting, which they had, and agreed to meet further this week if the club could do what was asked for. That meeting was supposed to be Thursday, but Leeds were so keen to get it sorted they arranged on Tuesday for it to be Wednesday morning. At 11:00 am on Wednesday Jack with agent signed the contract.s

Perhaps, GH has more sense than you give him credit for. And Perhaps you should listen to your own advice more often and stop spreading unfounded rumours to try and prove a point.

What you appear to be insinuating is the he wanted an 'opportunity' to play full back - I seriously doubt the club have ever said he won't get an 'opportunity' or baulked at him wanting said opportunity - so what exactly has changed?

Insinuated? I quite clearly stated the below.

How can you guys be ar sed with these endless internet pi ssing contests that go nowhere with neither conceding an inch?!

On jack, I'm pleased it's resolved and did think it'd go that way. The Rhinos mantra of 'ask not what your club can do for you, but...' doesn't sit well with me though and I believe there's a position closer the middle that is more productive for both parties.

The last paragraph perhaps illustrates how far removed McDermott's thinking is from the reality. Management is a two way thing its about give and take - no one sided relationship ever fulfils its true potential - maybe BDSM

is the exception that proves the rule



Do you think the bigger firms when recruiting the very best talent from university say this is about what you can do for us!!

McDermott bullies the younger players, some have been afraid just to walk past him for fear he may kick of with them for the slightest thing.

He also has been known to offer out a young player who had the cheek to walk behind him to rack some weights whilst he was using the punchbag.

I don't know whether this is true or not but he certainly intimidates journalists

Mcdermott couldnt develop a youngster if he had a manual....In any position!

he's like Jose mourihno(sp), very successful with proven players, able to help them perform well and win things. improving and developing, with odd exceptions, is not his game

Moreover , how do they find the time and enthusiasm ? I'm can't be d reading them , god only knows how anyone could be bothered to type this drivel

Should we just accept questionable rumours that continually criticise the club then without questioning them? No wonder Walker was hesitant to sign with Leeds if he's around Gotcha spreading his negative, critical views and frightening rumours about how the club is run into his ear.

None of this continuous muck spreading about the club actually helps the club which is what I'd have thought any fans best interests would lay instead of massaging their own ego. Before the dust has settled on this Walker issue he's already sh*t stirring about Liam Sutcliffe.....let the club and player sort it out, doesn't need rumours and gossiping being spread around, doesn't at all help the situation ever.

Yeah mourinhos a good comparison....Id imagine any of mcdermotts regulars who he trusts would run through walls for him because he's loyal to them...Loyal to a fault imo.But the rest of the players probably feel differantly because they dont get a fair crack of the whip. Regarding developing youngsters i honestly cant think of one who he's developed further than what ther natural talent would of got them to anyways....Ward and watkins are the perfect examples for me,both are still cracking players,they were always going to be because theyr so talentd but i think theres loads more to get out of them that mcdermott isnt capable of doing imo

So in that case, before the whole public kick off, you're trying to tell us that the issue was that Leeds wouldn't guarantee him an equal opportunity?

One of the brightest young stars at the club, and we're expected to think the club wouldn't give him a guarantee of a fair shot - and that's what it was all about.... excuse me for calling BS!

He eats new born babies as well.....true story.

He was the one that fixed the US Presidential elections for Trump too....true story.

Just passing through the forums and came across thus thread.

If gotcha really is this close to certain people in your club, he should be ashamed of himself.
Im sure plenty on here are quite friendly with players, coaches etc, but wouldnt dream of posting it all on a message board.
IMO, the well being of your club and staff should come before sitting in front of a screen with a semi on because you may know (or think you know) something which other people may not.

P.S good game from Tom tonight. Pleased for him, he's a smashing lad

agree, also kudos to mac for sticking with him, not bad for a coach

I'm glad he got through the game with no issues, i feared a bit for him going in.

Thankfully, we didn't allow Wigan the field position to exploit the tactics that Hull did at the weekend, particularly in the first half, but everything he did was on the money tonight and you can't ask more than that.

Exactly this.

And this.

And very much this.

I actually thought he looked very handy jumping into acting half at times and seemed very comfortable offering the ball from dummy half. Been eyeing over the thread about him and would love to see the international class come back out of him.

On Walker glad he has signed with yourselves as we could have seen a player who has shown (IMO) potential to become a cracking international player, make a silly mistake by joining a club like Leigh or Warrington. No disrespectto these sides but as we have seen Hampshire slowly get worse, and Wire throw all sorts of money and promises at kids that are never fulfilled

I think that's the end of this now.