Well Agar thought we were knackered from his interview on bbc. Anyways let’s see if we can bounce back for the game in 3 days time LOL. Season is done imo

Cam has the skills to be a very good player for the next 10 years, but he’s put a bit too much size on and has lost his pace as a result. I’d like to see him a bit leaner and quicker for next season, think it would help him game and really cement a starting spot rather than a bench spot.

Smith as outstanding before he broke his jaw, he’s been pretty patchy since his return

If your heads done in with what people are posting, theres an easy solution...Doubt you'd be missed.

Poor performance, but understandable, very little rest, men stood down...Culmination of a few things starting to take its toll. Hopefully we get another wind from somewhere, if not, still a pretty good season.

If you don’t like what I’m posting, there’s an easy solution....

A very poor performance , and our performances from the second half of the Cup onwards have all been poor. However , certain things even in adversity do become clear -



One position we need to sort for next year is our no. 6 - Robert Lui is non existent as an attacking force. Every team knows he cannot run , so they just

stand off him ( no pun intended ) and wait for the pass . Luke Gale cannot do it all himself , and the top teams will put him under immense pressure .



Sutcliffe will never make a rugby player - he can`t even with all the time in the world draw a full back and put his winger over . His attempt tonight for Handley`s

try was pathetic .



Cameron Smith does not have the pace for the way the game is going - for a young forward , he looks like a carthorse.



Cruise Leeming has to do a lot of work on his defence - a poor team looked so much better tonight , when he went off.



We need to finish off the league matches asap , put together a meaningful play off and Grand Final , and now enjoy the toughest 3 rugby league matches you will see this

season , starting on Wednesday 4th November with the first State of Origin - it does not get any tougher .

I guess this kind of performance was going to happen sooner or later.



The lack of attacking cutting edge has arguably been missing since the CC final (we could have arguably made easier work of Salford, although that's perhaps doing them a disservice). I'm sure this can be sorted out through coaching.



What's most concerning about this team in the last few weeks/months is the lack of anyone with genuine pace, with the possible exception of Handley. Hurrell and Newman are powerful runners but not speedsters. It's a problem for our attack, but increasingly a problem for our defence too. As soon as someone with pace breaks through, that's often 'game over' as far as it goes for stopping the opposition scoring. It's bad when the likes of Wakefield, Cas and Salford all have pacier backlines than us (never mind Wigan, Saints and Warrington!) - and a far cry from the days of having Briscoe, Watkins, Hardaker, Hall, and BJB in the squad who were ALL capable of going the length of the field if needed.

Very surprised we didn't play younger players and fringe players for tonights game majority of that team finished playing a physical game against Cas at 9:30pm on Monday and to ask them to go again and try perform was too much to ask Agar should have gone with similar team he did for Catalans and Warrington games. I'd imagine that he will play a second team this Sunday as the players look exhausted tonight. Wakey also had an extra day rest than us with them playing on Sunday and us playing on Monday it's not a lot but they finished Sunday about 4pm and we finished our game Monday 9:30 pm so they did get a bit more recovery time than us which is why it was surprising agar ask the players to play in tonight fixture instead of Sunday. Hopefully we can continue to compete for play off place however they get decided weather a top 4 or top 6 but it needs sorting ASAP.

Gale always shocking just pops up with a drop goal now and again

Wakey wanted it more & once they got a grip on the game we didnt have enough physically or mentally to sustain any momentum.

Too many errors , lack of structure in attack & imo selection let us down as well.

The tiredness kicked in when we were on the back foot & despite having a dig second half Gale & Lui were poor once we got into their 20.

The CC win was a huge bonus & there are positives to build on this Year but for me last night was poor overall Walters O'Connor Muzzy Mclellend & Tindall all should have played maybe even Harrison.

We may not have won either way but imo we'd have been fresher & wouldnt have to be using Ferres & L.Briscoe plus done of the others would be rested for Sunday if it goes ahead.

We have a bigger squad than most & last night Agar utilised it all wrong.

I think we're back in the market for another HB.



Rob Lui offers nothing.

Do not twist my words , i said we deserved the win overall at Wembley , but i stick to my pathetic comment regarding the 2nd half

exactly hence the reason the players can not use the tired excuse when they were rested for all those games

We did not have a cutting edge against Salford

100 % correct , we are far healthier than 12 months ago but have a long way to go to catch up with Saints and even Wire and Wigan

We have to be , it is an absolute must if we are to get back in the top 2

Please read the post again and you might work out what i was saying .



The challenge cup semi was the near perfect wet weather performance , it was the reason we won the cup , but do not get carried away as that was the only game we needed to be any good to win the competition

My point is clear, you comment when we’re poor but not when we win unless it’s still to call us pathetic.



The reason we won the cup is because we won the games we needed to win to win it and the club deserves credit for that, it’s as simple as that



Im not getting carried away and if you take your own advice and read what I write you would see that.

We played brilliantly against Wigan in the semi. I just scratch my head about our shape and ability to play what’s in front of us sometimes. We really struggled to break Cas down when they had 12 men: we get 12 men and Wakey get to the edges and score tries within minutes.



Too many times players out of position, over-running plays, chucking it anywhere or not thinking enough.



Definitely some fatigue in there but maybe Sean Long will make a difference.



Then there’s the squad itself: I’m leaning toward 2 new decent signings now, probably 6 and 10.



We will need more patience but I do think there is a great crop of young players coming through now, and they will improve. On that basis alone the side can hardly fail to get better over the next few years.

What’s your excuse for whining then?

Well said Christopher though I fear there’s no talking to them. Very blinkered in their constant criticism

Fair post is that and agree with large parts of it. There’s lots of room for improvement and I agree with your areas of recruitment going forward. A bloody good prop is vital for next season if we are to push on.



I was going through with a mate of mine our young players players who have huge promise yesterday and it’s very heart warming when you see just how many we have. It’s the best for a while

Totally agree on getting another very good prop, I think one more and we have a really strong pack going into next season.



I was actually a big fan of Lui, I think he does (or maybe did) a lot of work that doesn't look flashy but is effective - however I am now starting to think we need a 6 who is a bit more dynamic and more importantly has a bit more speed.



What we'd give for a Young Danny McGuire again eh!

I agree with this, I like Lui.



If we sign another prop he has to be top drawer. Otherwise Oledski, Prior, Seumanufagai, and Holroyd are doing a good job to be honest, if not good enough to challenge the best teams every week.



Cameron Smith looked great pre-lockdown but hasn't been the same since. You'd have to agree that Donaldson and Thompson get into the team ahead of him on form at the moment.



I also agree with the comments about Agar picking the wrong team for this one. We should have used a lot more of the 'baby Rhinos' in this one, especially some of the more physical bigger lads.