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| Quote ="Gotcha"At no point, or that statement has the lad demanded a shirt. He told the club weeks ago he wants to be a fullback, not an half. The club see it differently. End of day though, that isn't all it is down to, I said his management company were actively touting. His reputation went up since initial talks. At no point though has he said he asked for a starting spot.
We have let one fullback go in last twelve months, that we will never have one as good for a long long time, to lose a good one again would be pretty poor from the club. I think that announcement was a mistake, if only shown by the comments since. They should have kept it in house, as I personally think they would have changed. That second offer is more than Wire offered.
I agree with your later comment though, for me if someone is going don't enhance the reputation further, look at next option.'"
Dont know the kid but he must be pretty dumb, Cameron Smith didnt play a single game at hooker until his early 20s and is now probably the best hooker of all time, why any 17 year old thinks he should be able to dictate where he plays is beyond me.
And by the clubs statement it seems he did want a guaranteed starting position at fullback
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| Don't want to see him in a Leeds shirt again.
Think its best he not play anyway as I'm sure he'd only get a load of stick from Leeds fans
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| Demanded or requested assurances, it all pretty much the same thing. Thing is his agent will have known these requests would not be met by Leeds so letting his player go into meetings saying these things only goes to show they wanted to engineer a move away from Leeds. If we're going down the route of these football agent style tactics then the sport will be poorer for it.
Thing is that I'd fancy he stood a better chance of displacing Golding at FB next year than he would have of being Warrington's starting FB.
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| the idea that Walker was demanding being a fullback, but not demanding the number 1 shirt is pretty preposterous. It infers he would reject the contract because of a lack of guarantee that he plays fullback in the u19s.
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| Jack WHO! If he leaves he has made a really bad call IMO. If he wanted the FB position, which he got last week, when Ash moved to centre there is no reason he should not fight for his place in the team.
I would not play him again now ! Give someone who wants to play for the team, not someone who just wants a FB position.
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| Shame, he's going to be a cracking player. Pity he seems to have a flawed character. At least it's become apparent so early on
Get rid, asap
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| This doesn't necessarily mean he's definitely leaving does it? Still time for some negotiating/reasoning?
Very disappointing that it seems he's unwilling at this stage to fight for a place in the team, whatever position that may be.
Big decision for someone so young.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"At no point, or that statement has the lad demanded a shirt. He told the club weeks ago he wants to be a fullback, not an half. The club see it differently. End of day though, that isn't all it is down to, I said his management company were actively touting. His reputation went up since initial talks. At no point though has he said he asked for a starting spot.
We have let one fullback go in last twelve months, that we will never have one as good for a long long time, to lose a good one again would be pretty poor from the club. I think that announcement was a mistake, if only shown by the comments since. They should have kept it in house, as I personally think they would have changed. That second offer is more than Wire offered.
I agree with your later comment though, for me if someone is going don't enhance the reputation further, look at next option.'"
So what guarantees does he want then?
There's a huge difference between saying i only want to play at FB & seeking actual guarantees he plays there.
Burrow wanted to play 7 but got on with it at 9.
Numerous players have been prepared to A. Earn their spot & B.Play anywhere for the Team.
Either way like i said earlier both sides seem to have got this wrong.
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| Quote ="Loyal Leeds Fan"This doesn't necessarily mean he's definitely leaving does it? Still time for some negotiating/reasoning?.'"
I imagine Leeds announcing that today is them drawing a line under the situation and fair enough from them because they can't wait around forever for a 17 year old to make up his mind when he's had plenty of time already and he's probably only delaying out of concern that Warrington might end up relegated.
Would find it quite funny if that's his destination and they end up relegated or at the very least sack Smith after this season and the new coach doesn't want to pick Walker at FB.
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| Potentially a big shame but you can't allow a kid to hold you to ransom so im with the club on this.
Good luck to Jack wherever he goes.
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| Club's laid its cards on the table - do it our way or you're out.
I wouldn't rule out Walker staying.
p.s. you heard it here first
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| I've not read the pages yet! But Fu*k him. Should not be allowed to wear the shirt.
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| Methinks there is much "smoke & mirrors" about this than the media-friendly announcements from both sides.
Walker (& his family/advisors/agent) will know that he will not find ANY SL club that will guarantee to play him in a certain position no matter what (especially not at 17 y.o.).
I think it more likely that there has been a breakdown in trust/communication or some fallout between Hetherington/McDermott & agent/player.
Let's just see if Walker gets a SL contract elsewhere which GUARANTEES him a dedicated position (this was the stumbling block stated by both sides).
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| Leeds are right to stick to their guns. What did Walker expect to happen, Leeds tell Golding he's been transfer listed and have a 17 year old as the only specialist full back. I wouldn't rule him out staying completely, this could be a sly move by GH to put pressure on Walker signing a new deal, but him staying is very unlikely.
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| I agree. I think both sides have been foolish. had leeds made a decent offer I'm sure he would have signed.
but he's been very naive with regards to his agent. he's a massive talent. I hope he stays and I wouldn't rule it out
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| Wait until the Leeds fans Boo the $hit out of him and call him all the names under the sun. He will go home and cry his eyes out. He is a bloody child (some of us should remember that). He has been let down by Show Me The Money big time).
GH knows exactly what he is doing. The kid is gonna be a Leeds hate figure for his entire career if he's any good.
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| I can understand the anger and disappointment from the Leeds fans but i think some of you are being rather unfair on him. He is being labelled as immature etc but i think he has shown maturity and wants the best for his own career. If he wants to be a full back but Brian McD has said 'no i want you to play at 6' i am not surprised he doesn't like it. The decision might come back and bite him but it might not. If the lad wants to be a professional rugby league player as a full back who are anybody to tell him other wise. It's like putting a goalkeeper up front as a striker. The lad has trained all his life to be a full back and if thats what he wants to do then i think he should be allowed to follow his dream. All speculation of course but the Leeds board have spat their dummy out here and hung him out to dry. It's a bit petulant to be honest. He isn't even old enough to vote yet and is being bullied by multi millionaire businessmen through the internet. Let the lad follow his dream, good on him for being headstrong enough not to be bullied.
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| Good luck to him wherever he lays his hat. If he's not willing to fight for his favoured position now, what's he going to be like in the future? Can't have it handed on a plate in professional sport.
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| Quote ="tad rhino" I think both sides have been foolish. had leeds made a decent offer I'm sure he would have signed'"
What kind of offer did you have in mind , a guaranteed starting spot at full - back ?
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| I think Leeds have attempted to portray Walker badly. I'm sure he did not demand the full back spot: rather asked what his chances are given Golding has recently signed a long term contract. I get the impression this isn't the end of it and the article was released to out pressure on Walker, however, if he reads these forums he will probably be more likely to move on given the abuse he has received. I'm sure there is blame on both his agent and Leeds. Lets see how it pans out but I feel this might not be the end of it.
To give Golding a long term contract when unproven seems very daft now though and appears to have contributed to us losing a potential future star.
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| Quote ="Leeds Thirteen"What kind of offer did you have in mind , a guaranteed starting spot at full - back ?'"
of course not that's bloody stupid.
if the money hasn't been so derisiry I'm sure he would have signed. leeds have more than doubled that original offer.
however the biggest culprit is his agent. jacks a kid. he's 17. his parents aren't around to help him.
for me he's being led by his agent
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| Some not very complimentary comments from certain players on social media, who seem to think JW has been 'thrown under the bus' and 'hung out to dry' by Leeds
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| like who? I don't do social media
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| Do you think Goldings contract has a stipulation that he will be at fullback, if fit for the duration? Show some backbone and fight for your position......that's what "teams" are all about. The club may see Golding as a good player, who has a future in one of several positions.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"like who? I don't do social media'"
Sam Hallas (recently released by Leeds )
Scott Moore
Zak Hardaker - tho more in support of Walker than anything else
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