Whilst I don’t think it’s all our coaches fault, which of our coaches have any experience in coaching a successful team?

Completely agree with all of the above and especially the comments around Sinfields departure. The one big impact Kev had was the culture and DNA of the club began to improve and we looked a more professional team. This has now regressed since his departure and we are in free fall and there is no easy fix in the middle of a season. As you have highlighted there is no quick fix. Agar alone going fixes nothing. The coaches underneath him look to be worse than him so would also need to go. As great as Hetherington has been for Leeds he looks like a man who has had his glory days and is not as in tune with the current realities of RL here or in the NRL. Oledski carries our forwards on his own especially in the hard yards down the middle. Bentley was good last night and probably wonders why he chose to leave Saints to come to Leeds! The overall lack of confidence is shocking. The halves are embarassing. Sezer has the ability but looks short on confidence and Austin has turned into a poor version of Joel Moon at 6 ( great centre terrible 6).
When you take it all together its a mess. Throwing in the kids en masse as some suggest would only ruin them. We need a root and branch review and a top class coach who brings in all their own people with them. No idea where you get that from mid season so it looks like a giant sticking plaster in the meantime which is probably preferable to making the wrong choice.

The job of Leeds Rhinos coach will be an attractive one, there will be plenty coaches interested.

You can have Radford?
Take him PLEASE…..

Nice man or not, im not sure how we can come to the conclusion that Agar has done anything other than a bad job, he and the regime have set us back years, we are talking about another overhaul after the time he's had!

I said several times last year how poor we were and was continually criticised for being too harsh. It's been coming.

I think that’s a little unfair we were a shambles when he came in (I understand we are the same now)

He however should have gone at the end of last year and that’s yhe clubs fault for not realising this

He steadied the ship and I think the club chose the cheap Option off keeping him rolling as he’s a yes man. Lack of ambition at a high level I fear. Sinny clearly saw this…….

His head coaching CV is a trail of disaster, why was it ever going to be any different for us.

I'm not hardcore - so my apologies for my lack of knowledge. But, in a sentence, with the most balanced squad we've had for several seasons......why are we effing awful? The Wigan game, okay good reasons for that were put forward. But Hull and Salford.....nah...something is wrong here. And what exactly is our plan on the sixth tackle apart from hand over possession?

The bad decisions go right back to 2015. The back-slapping was followed by bad decisions and some bad luck, but mostly the former. We now have a club staffed in senior roles by mates and former players rather than professionals with proven ability, a squad with obvious flaws that haven't been addressed, and no depth at all.

The rot really does run deep. Replacing Agar alone won't fix the issues we have. We desperately need the sort of clean out that we've been avoiding for years. Putting in another coach without addressing the other issues will leave us little better off apart from some wins for the first team.

Knavesmire - I'd say the one sentence reason is simply that the coach has lost the squad. If everyone was really pulling together and backing each other fully we'd be significantly better.

We have one proven good quality coach at the club, Mark Butterill. I have no clue if he would even be interested in the first team role, or if he could stand in. The remaining coaches are consistently proving themselves to be next to useless.

Might aswell give Mark a crack for the rest of the season, he can’t do any worse.

Sorry to say but I’m laughing my head off at this. When sezer came to giants he was very very good. We thought at last we might start to improve as a side. Unfortunately When Watson joined Sezer didnt seem to like that Watson wanted a TEAM game and for everyone and no one to shine and his marquee status didn’t mean anything on the field. He didn’t want to play how the coach wanted him to. When he wanted out he stopped playing and his performances went from great to shocking. The away game at Wakefield being of particular note where he was absolutely dreadful. He was clearly looking for a way out and that’s when rumours started of him going to Leeds.
He then sat in our stand whilst injured and in front of supporters who heard every word basically trashed the club and said he was glad to be going to a “bigger and better club”
He didn’t play for us again, and many questioned that decision but Watson is being proved right. Sezer plays when sezer wants to. Right now he clearly doesn’t want to. I just hope you’re not paying him what we were.

Mark has done a good job but theres a world of difference from coaching 15/16 year olds and coaching 1st grade. He usually has the best juniors in the area against much weaker even less funded teams.

Come on guys.

I was just being flippant and not seriously suggesting it

Agreed that Mark stepping up to first team would be a stretch

But to give him a bit more credit...Them same best juniors in scholorship then start struggling against them same weaker teams when they move up to Walker in the Academy. Marks an exceptional junior coach.

Confidence looks low now.
We have little, zip, sharpness in attack, and little strike/threat with no Newman or replacement for Konnie.
The only try we made came off a fairly desperate Donaldson off-load but it meant we had a rare piece of 2nd phase play.
Laffai of Salford did 2 excellent late offloads, we do hardly any.
Thought Broadbent did quite well against him, he has a bit of class.
We also have little pace.
Line speed and contact in defence is often poor.
I see little leadership, nobody saying anything behind the posts.
It’s a very bad mix.
It looks to me that our halves literally are not speaking to each other. This needs fixing.
To start last night we had Mik, Kruise and Zane v ormandroyd, Ackers and Gerrard but we did not dominate.
Other teams are running harder in attack and defence.
We have now fully succumbed to the goal of the salary cap we have precious little class.

To try and find positives thought Jack Walker was very good and we left with a minute to go and missed most of the traffic and even better parked at the little airport and did not pay.

There looks to be a big man management job for rest of the season to get the spirit and togetherness right.
I don’t know what The answer is but it’s not Ellery or Butterill.

My post was purely to demonstrate that a vast majority of our coaches are frankly not decent coaches. I don’t know Mark, I’ve no idea what his ambitions are, but I know he regularly develops our kids into quality younger players. I have no clue if he could stand in for the Head Coach role until a new permanent one is found. One thing I am sure of is that he would be the only option I’d consider to stand in from Our current coaches, the rest need to leave with Agar.

Brown hasn't played a single game with Austin, he tore his achilles at the start of austins first season then was out of contract

Must have trained together then. He definitely said it though…!

A bit like now then - the squad Furner inherited was significantly inferior to what Agar is coaching. Furner was correct the squad needed a clear out sadly the likes of Sutcliffe, Briscoe, Dwyer etc are still getting picked every week.

I genuinely think it is time the club broke away from the influence of the golden generation - they were great servants to the club but it is time the club moved on.

The club have no viable options - Agar will remain in place until the end of the season - maybe he will be in charge next season too.

This aged well

JJB with his coaching CV i.e. Stanningley open age is hardly a viable option.