Can't argue with that tvoc, it's spot on.

Until he can show he can win something with his own team, there will always be questions about it. Did't realise his record was 50/50. That's a poor record for a top team, especially one that was so dominant for so long.

Even John Kear won a couple of trophies, and with two different clubs. There is more to being a coach, some get lucky with good players.

We've been poor for a number of weeks but that is possibly the worst rhinos performance I have seen.

However we will gladly see the real rhinos next week. Do That and we will put ourselves in a pretty decent place to do what no other Leeds coach has done in a decade and a half.

The team needs to be judged on the games which matter not the ones that don't

Is frustrating, especually when I've made a special error to get to the game for once, but if we get a cc in the cabinet it pales into insignificance

Something that can't be disputed is that McDermott can win trophies if his players are good enough. Are his current players good enough? I have reservations. As a unit, our pack is adequate although I'm still unconvinced about the hooking role. Halves? Big question marks here IMO. Even our back five - allegedly the best in the league - seems somewhat lacking at times. For a 3/4 line heralded by many as the best in the game, it provides precious few game-breaking flashes of brilliance. Athletic prowess, yes, but the sublime incisiveness shown by the best to have played the game?

For me Mcdermotts credentials have weakened considerably since his first two trophy winning seasons. Not because of our barren year of 2013, but because of the way we have been losing games as other teams have strengthened and we have become more vulnerable. Last nights loss in itself says a lot about the man. He obviously thinks finishing higher up the league to gain home advantage is not really much of an advantage. This despite us being dispatched with ease in 3 games we ultimately needed to win last year (Huddersfield cup, Wire and Wigan play offs) all away from home. I would certainly question his judgement on that count. Gone are the days when we rolled up at Warrington and wigan at the end of the season and win from a lowly position. We are simply not good enough to coast along and then win the play offs on our own terms, we need every bit of effort, luck, and definitely home advantage against our improving rivals. If we bomb next week, as we normally do against Warrington in the cup, Mcdermotts credibility will take another hammer blow in my book.