Quote ="Gotcha"Ask Brad Singleton what? Singleton has been no different this year to what he was last year, or even the year before. All that playing at Hunslet as meant for him is that he is still at Leeds, rather than released as too old for academy. He should have been playing since last year. Had injuries not happened at Leeds he wouldn't be here next year. Look at Keinhorst and Foster. Foster is better than Keinhorst at every facet of the game, far superior player. It's only since he broke into the first team that he was asked to play for Hunslet. His didn't need to go to Hunslet to prove himself. He needed super league game time, and luckily injuries allowed him to prove himself. Duckworth with no Hunslet game time, as managed to force himself into the squad, whereas Chisolm with his Hunslet time doesn't get a sniff. The Championshipn has 3 or 4 good sides, the rest are poor. Hunslet is one of the latter. Playing there does not give any platform for super league. Playing super league does that, and that is the only way to further develop potential stars. If Leeds and Wigan entered their under 19's in the championship they would be battling out for winning it. I notice your point on Hood, and accept it. Accepted because it backs up what I am saying, the player has regressed at Hunslet. Had he been loaned to a super league side instead, whether he was up to it would have been learned in weeks rather than a season. Dual registration can work if you use it for 16/17 year olds as a taster, with a clear then step to the odd super league game time. But only for the identified few, not all. If you haven't had a sniff by the time you are too old for super league, the simple fact is in the majority of cases, you are not going to be good enough. Leeds seem to be using it to retain players, rather than develop ">players.'" some pretty stupid / ignorance comments brad singleton has improved in all areas of his game since playing for dewsbury & hunslet. If he hadn't & was ready 2/3 years ago like you claim don't you think the bottom teams would have come in for him? wakefield didn't even think he was good enough this year at the start of the season & sent him packing after 1 game. foster, is he that kid that repeatedly keeps getting run over the top of?...no doubt foster has potential but he's a long way off being a regular super league player or even getting near the 19 when everyone is fit. as for him being better that keinhorst you're having a laugh. foster went to hunslet because they were struggling to raise 17 players with their injuries and the 19's didn't have a game that week, thus him & mcavoy went and played for them; foster by all accounts was shown up with quite a lot of his defence reads & efforts. (feel free to find the highlights on youtube and watch Liam Kaye stroll past him). mcavoy hasn't been back since despite them still struggling for forwards; they played with a prop, a winger, a hooker & a stand off on the bench at the weekend. is this because the 19's is better for mcavoy or because mcavoy isn't good enough for hunslet? personally i doubt hunslet have even asked for him again, preferring to have backrowers playing prop & wingers in the backrow. Duckworth isn't old enough to go out on dual reg (see last point) Chisholm had a few games before being dropped and hasn't played since. surely if the 19'2/20's was so good / championship poor he should be able to get a game in the championship every week? the championship is the most level & even league, the difference between top & bottom is fairly small; the top 5 were pretty clear to pick before the season, but the other 9 teams have next to nothing between them & any of them 9 teams beating the top 5 isn't that much of an upset. hence why there has been 70 bonus points awarded so far and very few blow out scores. playing at the top of super league would no doubt be better for development but playing at the likes of london, salford, cas will not. i've no doubt leeds/wigan 19's would be near the bottom of the league, even both these top teams are full of players who aren't good enough for championship (yet). (sadly many players seem to have the same opinion as you and hence think they are going to be to good for the league & soon find themselves sat in the stands because of the attitude of 'i'm to good to be here so don't have to put the effort in training & can get away with doing stupid/miracle things in games') hood hasn't regressed at hunslet, he just isn't good enough imo. he has some really good stuff in his game, but his weaknesses have been shown up more in the championship than they were at 20's & he hasn't improved any of these points to a standard that would be good enough for leeds. no doubt he'll get a gig in the championship next year but none sure there will be many/any super league offers and even if he does get one i expect him to see large parts of the season in the championship on dual-reg/loan unless he has a big improvement in the next 6 months you can't be dual registered at that age, you have to be 18 at the start of the season (iirc), which is pretty stupid but what do you expect from the RFL. which means the likes of baldwinson are old enough to player super league but not old enough to play for championship teams on dual reg.

Quote ="Gotcha"Ask Brad Singleton what? Singleton has been no different this year to what he was last year, or even the year before. All that playing at Hunslet as meant for him is that he is still at Leeds, rather than released as too old for academy. He should have been playing since last year. Had injuries not happened at Leeds he wouldn't be here next year. Look at Keinhorst and Foster. Foster is better than Keinhorst at every facet of the game, far superior player. It's only since he broke into the first team that he was asked to play for Hunslet. His didn't need to go to Hunslet to prove himself. He needed super league game time, and luckily injuries allowed him to prove himself. Duckworth with no Hunslet game time, as managed to force himself into the squad, whereas Chisolm with his Hunslet time doesn't get a sniff. The Championshipn has 3 or 4 good sides, the rest are poor. Hunslet is one of the latter. Playing there does not give any platform for super league. Playing super league does that, and that is the only way to further develop potential stars. If Leeds and Wigan entered their under 19's in the championship they would be battling out for winning it. I notice your point on Hood, and accept it. Accepted because it backs up what I am saying, the player has regressed at Hunslet. Had he been loaned to a super league side instead, whether he was up to it would have been learned in weeks rather than a season. Dual registration can work if you use it for 16/17 year olds as a taster, with a clear then step to the odd super league game time. But only for the identified few, not all. If you haven't had a sniff by the time you are too old for super league, the simple fact is in the majority of cases, you are not going to be good enough. Leeds seem to be using it to retain players, rather than develop ">players.'" some pretty stupid / ignorance comments brad singleton has improved in all areas of his game since playing for dewsbury & hunslet. If he hadn't & was ready 2/3 years ago like you claim don't you think the bottom teams would have come in for him? wakefield didn't even think he was good enough this year at the start of the season & sent him packing after 1 game. foster, is he that kid that repeatedly keeps getting run over the top of?...no doubt foster has potential but he's a long way off being a regular super league player or even getting near the 19 when everyone is fit. as for him being better that keinhorst you're having a laugh. foster went to hunslet because they were struggling to raise 17 players with their injuries and the 19's didn't have a game that week, thus him & mcavoy went and played for them; foster by all accounts was shown up with quite a lot of his defence reads & efforts. (feel free to find the highlights on youtube and watch Liam Kaye stroll past him). mcavoy hasn't been back since despite them still struggling for forwards; they played with a prop, a winger, a hooker & a stand off on the bench at the weekend. is this because the 19's is better for mcavoy or because mcavoy isn't good enough for hunslet? personally i doubt hunslet have even asked for him again, preferring to have backrowers playing prop & wingers in the backrow. Duckworth isn't old enough to go out on dual reg (see last point) Chisholm had a few games before being dropped and hasn't played since. surely if the 19'2/20's was so good / championship poor he should be able to get a game in the championship every week? the championship is the most level & even league, the difference between top & bottom is fairly small; the top 5 were pretty clear to pick before the season, but the other 9 teams have next to nothing between them & any of them 9 teams beating the top 5 isn't that much of an upset. hence why there has been 70 bonus points awarded so far and very few blow out scores. playing at the top of super league would no doubt be better for development but playing at the likes of london, salford, cas will not. i've no doubt leeds/wigan 19's would be near the bottom of the league, even both these top teams are full of players who aren't good enough for championship (yet). (sadly many players seem to have the same opinion as you and hence think they are going to be to good for the league & soon find themselves sat in the stands because of the attitude of 'i'm to good to be here so don't have to put the effort in training & can get away with doing stupid/miracle things in games') hood hasn't regressed at hunslet, he just isn't good enough imo. he has some really good stuff in his game, but his weaknesses have been shown up more in the championship than they were at 20's & he hasn't improved any of these points to a standard that would be good enough for leeds. no doubt he'll get a gig in the championship next year but none sure there will be many/any super league offers and even if he does get one i expect him to see large parts of the season in the championship on dual-reg/loan unless he has a big improvement in the next 6 months you can't be dual registered at that age, you have to be 18 at the start of the season (iirc), which is pretty stupid but what do you expect from the RFL. which means the likes of baldwinson are old enough to player super league but not old enough to play for championship teams on dual reg.

Quote ="Gotcha"Again, I didn't even say he =#FF0000is dissillusioned, I said has felt. Past tense. This is the thing about jumping to conclusions to try and get one over. Not you I am getting at by the way. He was disillusioned with having no option but to go out to Hunslet, and having to wait for unjuries before he is given an opportunity, feeling it was a long wait from making his debut. That is what comes across to me in that ">interview.'" Sorry Gotcha but you've completely lost me Are you saying he was disillusioned at Leeds but not now? because you wrote [i"That would have some merit, if I had ever said he was dissallusioned at Leeds"[/i It was Leeds making him go to Hunslet and not picking him for the first team

Quote ="Gotcha"Again, I didn't even say he =#FF0000is dissillusioned, I said has felt. Past tense. This is the thing about jumping to conclusions to try and get one over. Not you I am getting at by the way. He was disillusioned with having no option but to go out to Hunslet, and having to wait for unjuries before he is given an opportunity, feeling it was a long wait from making his debut. That is what comes across to me in that ">interview.'" Sorry Gotcha but you've completely lost me Are you saying he was disillusioned at Leeds but not now? because you wrote [i"That would have some merit, if I had ever said he was dissallusioned at Leeds"[/i It was Leeds making him go to Hunslet and not picking him for the first team

He's now trying to imply that Singleton was completely dissalusioned with being on dual Registration at Hunslet. He's trying to imply that doesn't mean Singleton was dissallusioned with leeds. As if Leeds had nothing to do with the decision to send him to Hunslet.



It's fog knitting at it's best.



He says some stupid stuff but is then very clever at knitting his way out.

Quote ="Tony Soprano"Sorry Gotcha but you've completely lost me Are you saying he was disillusioned at Leeds but not now? because you wrote [i"That would have some merit, if I had ever said he was dissallusioned at Leeds"[/i It was Leeds making him go to Hunslet and not picking him for the first team'" Listen, and apologies sincerely if I have this wrong, but I think you are just taking the mickey now icon_wink.gif" alt="icon_wink.gif" title="Wink" /> Clear, I have not said or intimated that he felt disillusioned playing at Leeds. I have said that interview came across has though he felt disillusioned (past tense), in being out on dual reg rather than playing at Leeds. I further stated that the comment about playing each week at Hunselt, rather than coming across as a positive, was an after though as he followed up by saying, not like he had anyhere else to play.

Quote ="Tony Soprano"Sorry Gotcha but you've completely lost me Are you saying he was disillusioned at Leeds but not now? because you wrote [i"That would have some merit, if I had ever said he was dissallusioned at Leeds"[/i It was Leeds making him go to Hunslet and not picking him for the first team'" Listen, and apologies sincerely if I have this wrong, but I think you are just taking the mickey now icon_wink.gif" alt="icon_wink.gif" title="Wink" /> Clear, I have not said or intimated that he felt disillusioned playing at Leeds. I have said that interview came across has though he felt disillusioned (past tense), in being out on dual reg rather than playing at Leeds. I further stated that the comment about playing each week at Hunselt, rather than coming across as a positive, was an after though as he followed up by saying, not like he had anyhere else to play.

Quote ="Gotcha" Clear, I have not said or intimated that he felt disillusioned playing at Leeds. I have said that interview came across has though he felt disillusioned (past tense), in being out on dual reg rather than playing at Leeds. I further stated that the comment about playing each week at Hunselt, rather than coming across as a positive, was an after though as he followed up by saying, not like he had anyhere else to ">play.'" Well that has cleared things up..............................

Quote ="Gotcha" Clear, I have not said or intimated that he felt disillusioned playing at Leeds. I have said that interview came across has though he felt disillusioned (past tense), in being out on dual reg rather than playing at Leeds. I further stated that the comment about playing each week at Hunselt, rather than coming across as a positive, was an after though as he followed up by saying, not like he had anyhere else to ">play.'" Well that has cleared things up..............................

I read Singleton's description of the actual quality of Championship vs U20s (let alone U19s) as the CHampionship simply better preparation for SL. His happiness or otherwise with being played there is irrelevant. Is any player ever going to be happy NOT playing first team?



Given that all SL clubs should be developing their own talent and have no reserve teams, there will always be a very limited number of SL loan spots available (shortly to fall significantly as 2 clubs disappear). That means that right now for most players who hit 19 who are not first team regulars the only option is the Championship.



That in turn will mean every year some kids leaving every SL club. We saw it at the end of last season, and will again this year. The hope is that clubs firstly spot and retain the right young players, and that as many of the rest as possible stay in the game - whether in the Championship directly or via a stint in Aus.