vickery is slow as fook and his defence was all over the shop, he got a few lucky breaks when he came shooting in field but they were anything but good defence reads, as show by the amount of times he made the wrong choice.

Stop that. You know that because Ablett was in our right centre and percival made a few late breaks in their left centre that equates to him dominating Ablett notwithstanding that centres rarely defend in the centre anyway.

That's a high count for the starting stand-off to have to make - it's almost as if that in addition to running the offensive game he's having to make up for a defensive deficiency elewhere.



Just as well he's got some broad shoulders.

Quote ="tvoc" Quote ="Juan Cornetto"JJB with 34 tackles, Sinfield with 31 were good but special mention to Ward who put in 30 tackles despite being on for a little over half the game. Burrow was our top tackle buster with 6 and a healthy 149 metres'" That's a high count for the starting stand-off to have to make - it's almost as if that in addition to running the offensive game he's having to make up for a defensive deficiency elewhere. Just as well he's got some broad ">shoulders.'" Roby made 51 tackles, if that's what you mean, the same nunber Clark made for Cad the week before. Not sure I entirely trust the stats, but they have Vickery making 7 tackles, with 4 misses and 2 errors. Find myself willing him to do well at least in the basics, in the way I would an in-at-the-deep-end union convert in the 80s. Currently looking more Rombo than Offiah.

Quote ="tvoc" Quote ="Juan Cornetto"JJB with 34 tackles, Sinfield with 31 were good but special mention to Ward who put in 30 tackles despite being on for a little over half the game. Burrow was our top tackle buster with 6 and a healthy 149 metres'" That's a high count for the starting stand-off to have to make - it's almost as if that in addition to running the offensive game he's having to make up for a defensive deficiency elewhere. Just as well he's got some broad ">shoulders.'" Roby made 51 tackles, if that's what you mean, the same nunber Clark made for Cad the week before. Not sure I entirely trust the stats, but they have Vickery making 7 tackles, with 4 misses and 2 errors. Find myself willing him to do well at least in the basics, in the way I would an in-at-the-deep-end union convert in the 80s. Currently looking more Rombo than Offiah.

Quote ="Andy Gilder"And who in today's YEP describes his own performance as "disappointing". Certainly didn't cover himself in glory in the opening minutes, one dropped ball and a penalty from memory(?), but seemed to go ok after ">that.'" There was also the knock on in the 12th minute when he got smashed by Manu. Quote ="Andy Gilder"As an aside on the comments about Ablett getting no change out of Percival, the field position for Leuluai's try comes off the back of Ablett fending the youngster and making a 30 yard break into Saints territory'" Probably owed Leeds that one after his poor defensive read contributed to Saints opening try, although in fairness Lomax should still have been stopped. Vickery backed off then turned his back on the ball carrier but he was covering centre and wing, Watkins also anticipating a ball to the left got bumped off and the over-stretched Sinfield was too late/got carried over. Leeds were always a man short on the right as once again McGuire and Burrow were holding hands together wide on the left. Perhaps even more disappointing from a preparation point of view that try mirrored Lomax's opener of three at Odsal last week so Leeds should have been able to anticipate the dummy and straightening line that had undone Bradford just the week before. __________ Quote ="craigizzard"Currently looking more Rombo than ">Offiah.'" I'm waiting to see his try celebration shuffle before I'm willing to make those type of comparisons.

Quote ="Andy Gilder"And who in today's YEP describes his own performance as "disappointing". Certainly didn't cover himself in glory in the opening minutes, one dropped ball and a penalty from memory(?), but seemed to go ok after ">that.'" There was also the knock on in the 12th minute when he got smashed by Manu. Quote ="Andy Gilder"As an aside on the comments about Ablett getting no change out of Percival, the field position for Leuluai's try comes off the back of Ablett fending the youngster and making a 30 yard break into Saints territory'" Probably owed Leeds that one after his poor defensive read contributed to Saints opening try, although in fairness Lomax should still have been stopped. Vickery backed off then turned his back on the ball carrier but he was covering centre and wing, Watkins also anticipating a ball to the left got bumped off and the over-stretched Sinfield was too late/got carried over. Leeds were always a man short on the right as once again McGuire and Burrow were holding hands together wide on the left. Perhaps even more disappointing from a preparation point of view that try mirrored Lomax's opener of three at Odsal last week so Leeds should have been able to anticipate the dummy and straightening line that had undone Bradford just the week before. __________ Quote ="craigizzard"Currently looking more Rombo than ">Offiah.'" I'm waiting to see his try celebration shuffle before I'm willing to make those type of comparisons.

Quote ="G1"Stop that. You know that because Ablett was in our right centre and percival made a few late breaks in their left centre that equates to him dominating Ablett notwithstanding that centres rarely defend in the centre ">anyway.'" Ah, that takes me back to the days when Jamie Lyon was the greatest player in the whole world ever based on 10 minutes of play in a losing team....

Quote ="G1"Stop that. You know that because Ablett was in our right centre and percival made a few late breaks in their left centre that equates to him dominating Ablett notwithstanding that centres rarely defend in the centre ">anyway.'" Ah, that takes me back to the days when Jamie Lyon was the greatest player in the whole world ever based on 10 minutes of play in a losing team....