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| But that isn't what you are saying; you yourself said "one has finance, one doesn't" just a few posts ago.
The reality is that neither currently has finance, but both have the potential to be fully funded, subject to planning approvals.
Wakey's 'fully funded' stadium is a myth. Much as I can't bear the whole stadium debate, nobody can justifiably use funding as a differentiator.
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| Quote Speedy="Speedy"Ehh its funny how these polecat traffic management officiardo's know so much about the volumes around wheldon rd....
lets think back a litlte.... Hicksons.... now how did they exactly move all those chemicals they made, Lets remember how much traffic was there when Wheldale Colliery and Fryston Colliery was in full production, all those pit props, chocks, panza's the list is endless.. they must have appeard by a tardis , and id hate to think of the car movements down there........'"
Well said Speedy 
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| Quote Speedy="Speedy"Ehh its funny how these polecat traffic management officiardo's know so much about the volumes around wheldon rd....
lets think back a litlte.... Hicksons.... now how did they exactly move all those chemicals they made, Lets remember how much traffic was there when Wheldale Colliery and Fryston Colliery was in full production, all those pit props, chocks, panza's the list is endless.. they must have appeard by a tardis , and id hate to think of the car movements down there........'"
If only planning & development rules were based about what USED to be there!
BV had high stands at both the South and West sides, yet Wakefield can't build anything to replace them.
And let's not forget that the "green belt" of Newmarket was also a pit!
I agree with your sentiments, but the past makes no difference to the future.
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| I was having a mess around doing some drawings earlier. I think it would be best if it was definitely a one way system. Looking at Google Maps, you could divert traffic coming from Lock Lane around the back of the Garden House on to Wheldon Road. I know it's currently a car park but I'm sure they could use some of the Arriva Bus depot opposite for spaces for the pub etc.
Make the Wheldon Road Aire St the main road by getting rid of the roundabout. However, instead of traffic going from Aire St onto Wheldon Road via the current way (i.e straight across) also divert this traffic round the back of the Garden House and put a junction on the bridge for cars coming from Lock Lane. This would mean the queues are not where the current roundabout is or Wheldon Rd.
For cars coming from Wheldon Road keep the lane system as it is now for the roundabout (except get rid of the turn right one). Have one going straight on and one for cars going left up Bridge St.
For cars joining the system from Bridge St, as it's one way, they would have to get on to Wheldon Rd they would have to go upto the big roundabout next to Wilkinsons go round and come back on themselves. They'd have a junction as it is now. I appreciate that this may keep traffic on Bridge St, however, it would ensure that traffic leaving and entering Wheldon Rd is frequent. For those people who are coming from Aire St and want to turn right, I would create another roundabout on the edge of the current Wheldon Rd site into the new store.
I'd also get rid of the crossings across Aire St. This is what often creates traffic. Not sure where I'd stick crossings but I'll leave that for someone else to think up.
Could work, ambitious and would need testing but I don't think that's a bad plan really. I do await people picking holes, though.
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| Quote Fully="Fully"I was having a mess around doing some drawings earlier. I think it would be best if it was definitely a one way system. Looking at Google Maps, you could divert traffic coming from Lock Lane around the back of the Garden House on to Wheldon Road. I know it's currently a car park but I'm sure they could use some of the Arriva Bus depot opposite for spaces for the pub etc.
Make the Wheldon Road Aire St the main road by getting rid of the roundabout. However, instead of traffic going from Aire St onto Wheldon Road via the current way (i.e straight across) also divert this traffic round the back of the Garden House and put a junction on the bridge for cars coming from Lock Lane. This would mean the queues are not where the current roundabout is or Wheldon Rd.
For cars coming from Wheldon Road keep the lane system as it is now for the roundabout (except get rid of the turn right one). Have one going straight on and one for cars going left up Bridge St.
For cars joining the system from Bridge St, as it's one way, they would have to get on to Wheldon Rd they would have to go upto the big roundabout next to Wilkinsons go round and come back on themselves. They'd have a junction as it is now. I appreciate that this may keep traffic on Bridge St, however, it would ensure that traffic leaving and entering Wheldon Rd is frequent. For those people who are coming from Aire St and want to turn right, I would create another roundabout on the edge of the current Wheldon Rd site into the new store.
I'd also get rid of the crossings across Aire St. This is what often creates traffic. Not sure where I'd stick crossings but I'll leave that for someone else to think up.
Could work, ambitious and would need testing but I don't think that's a bad plan really. I do await people picking holes, though.'"
I,m sure the planners are mulling over your proposals as we speak 
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| Quote Fully="Fully"
I read deeHell's first line, gave up because not only is it the same old drivel, it's also incorrect.
Edit, I did continue - yep: still all drivel.'"
So what exactly is drivel and incorrect about my post? I've told you all along that the land has very little value for housing. I have been proved right! Instead of blinding following Dickie Wrights spin stories try focusing in on the factuals! Of course your too blinkered to see things from that point of view. 
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