Sorry Mike, I started the thread and i stand by every word i said, I pay my money in advance in the form of my season ticket to watch entertaining rugby, Its not about the score its about the entertainment value that i pay for. This year was Boring one man rugby and i think the majority or posters would agree, its about value for money for the time i spend there, and this was the general concsensus of people around me in the south stand. However i am not speaking on behalf of them, it was my opinion.



If you also want my opinion you make a rod for your own back with " the next big signing " only to not be a Big signing in most peoples eyes. Penky has not made his mind up rubbish when all and sundry knew he had, it would have been better to say nothing. I'm not critising the work you do, you do a fantastic job and posted a £20k profit last year. However people are fickle and if you want a surge and uplift like the club keep asking for then now would be a time to announce some "star" signings to replace those we have lost.



Biting at a few ( and lets be honest, we who post on here are only a few ) Loyal supporters for having a opinion is rather a silly thing to do, we do come to most home and away games and purchase the shirts and dining packages etc, but dont let that put you off your defensive rant for us having a opinion



Also i dont see anyone calling Karl a Villian or Matt a hero, I do see people posting about the contrasing styles of coaching that we have seen being played this year and previous years and comparisons being made. I personally found the rugby more entertaining under Matt, However as the opening post says, "i will give it time to see what happens next year.



If anyone wants to pass it onto Mr Riley feel free.

Sometimes the style of rugby is frustrating. Sometimes it's inconsistent. Sometimes we get matches like the NRC final which was a perfect performance. Many many times we pull our hair out at the brain farts the players come up with.



As the last poster says - it's all opinion but some comments just aren't helpful. Some people just seem happy to constantly moan. Personally, i have LOVED the last three years. Loved the finals which bagged us the trophies and loved the last minute crazy wins.



Go onto the Castleford, Salford and Widnes boards. The usual posters on the Widnes board have all but left. It's grim reading.

Yes, the season finished on a disappointing note, but the squad was down to the bare bones, and had been for a few weeks. The lads looked tired, but without the injuries we suffered I think that a bit of squad rotation would have come into play and we would have been a lot fresher.



Also, without knocking Penky as he was a great player for us, just how much of an impact did the announcement that he was going have? Did it have an influence on the way his mates played, and did it unsettle any of them?



At the end of the day, would we rather see a competitive Fax year in year out, due to the hard work and fiscal prudence of the BOD, staff (paid and unpaid) and coach, or have a situation like happened at Barrow where money was no object, rules were broken and it all came crashing down?



Keep the faith everyone. We have a BOD that care passionately about the club, not just today but for 5, 10, 15 years down the line!

I demand we sign Robbie Farah, hes the only person capable of filling penkys boots.

Totally agree, Mike. I used to contribute on this BB but got fed up with the same old whingers whinging about the same old stuff. If we went through the whole season dropping just a point they'd focus on the point which was lost. Nothing but mindless drivel nowadays I'm afraid - the only reason I check it out is to get some "hoped for" advanced info on possible signings, but why do I bother - they're even wrong with that the majority of the time!



Keep up the good work, Mike. I'm sure the "silent majority" appreciate the effort that you, Karl, the players and all those connected with the club put in.

Do you know Rich I find how certain members on this board THINK they are the gospel according to Halifax RLFC and belittle people with different opinions are also a disgrace.



Nobody is calling for the board, walking a coffin around the pitch or being overly negative. People (myself included) have posted opinions on how things feel right now. I also wouldn't call Aspinwall or Andy Ellis journeymen. If I were a Leigh / Fev fan right now I'd be chuffed to bits and feeling pretty excited re next year already!! Maybe in a few weeks we will too and I hope we are!! Right now though I'm a bit deflated cos some good players have left but that's Sport. Also fans are in the majority quite fickle and a couple of key signings changes our mood instantly. BUT right now nothing much is happening and because we all want a successful club we want good news, exciting news, big signings!! We want Leigh, Fev to fear us next year and cos were lagging behind slightly we're wondering who are we signing etc???



In fact the only negative response has come from an impassioned Mike Riley and I get it and his response. Sadly though after 8 years in the role hes in he should know us fans are hard to please and his response is a little ill advised in my opinion but at least he cares. Especially when we are being asked to part with £25 for our names on the new shirt etc.



I just don't agree with bagging people on here for having a different opinion to the Mods or regular posters!! It's a democracy you know and surely we all want the same thing???

How about Cameron Smith ?

What journey men have we signed at Fev little rich I must of not seen them. Thought we had signed some young players from Warrington and Doncaster and in my opinion a S/L quality hooker along with Crossley are you saying you wouldn't of liked them in your team



Regarding people panicking I wouldn't worry KH will know who he wants and will probably get his men lets see how you all feel come the start of next season. Do you know how many season tickets you sold last Season

Strange one really as I guess people would say I fall in to that category yet on the season overall I think we have had a good one simply because we have won some silverware and for me some of the games have had that extra bit of excitement due to us only winning in the dying moments. The worrying thing for me is talking to people who have followed us for years that i speak to that are Fax through and through telling me how much of a boring season it has been and how the rugby we play has been bland.



Everyone is entitled to an opinion no matter how much tripe is in it and the club coming out and bashing fans for it probably isnt the right way to go about it. I think Mike is out of line with some of the things he says, like saying Matt Calland was hated, yes some people didnt like him as a person but not many people slagged off the type of rugby we were playing and also a lot of people on here didnt want Rhino as coach(not me i might add), but dont let the truth get in the way of a good story.



Yes we all get that you put time and effort in to the club but in saying stuff like that you kinda make out that the people who post on here dont, be it through sponsorship, buying shirts, or simply putting money over the turnstiles. I know it must be hard not to comment on some of the stuff on here but at the end of the day the fans go a long way to paying the players wages.

That's what a forum is for though. People don't agree with your opinion that's all. Doesn't mean to say they want you banned from the forum. Everyone should feel free to disagree with anyone.



I strongly disagree with your latest set of posts and i don't think such negative comments (in September!!) are in any way constructive or give encouragement to a BOD that do it all for nothing. However, i know that you have worked as hard as anyone for the club in fundraising and canvassing and i applaud that. We do want the same thing - every Fax poster on here does but as soon as you or i post a topic or reply to a post then we open ourselves up to questioning, ridicule and disagreement - simply because we are on a forum. Same goes for Mike - yes he represents the club but he's a fan with posting rights as well and i say that's fine by me. Some clubs don't talk to their fans at all. It's good to see passion.

will u buy a season ticket then?

Harrison OUT



Betts IN

Tell Fev and Leigh its too early!! - Pre-season starts in November so not much time to pull the squad together plus we have to think about ensuring Season Ticket sales are strong and as we are introducing yet another shirt (which I don't agree with) we need fans both young and old to buy this stuff in droves. Signings and exciting ones help this process to get going. Admittedly I'm maybe harping on slightly prematurely perhaps BUT my dismay is caused because the clubs around us are signing people up and looking strong and I want to play the "best team selection for next season" game too.

Well said Mike and for the moaners, reel your necks in!



We won a trophy we've never won this year, got a coach and board of directors who have real passion for the club and invest time and real money into it. Hardly Oldham are we?



That commitment by the board needs matching by us. Keep up the good work I say and don't worry about GFB et al, they would probably argue the grass in the pitch is the wrong colour if we were winning 100-0 each week.



Mike, you guys have done a fantastic job since captain lard bucket left us up the creek and you have my maximum respect! Keep up the good work, all of you, and remember the vast majority of fax fans support you whole heatedly!



We're blue we're white..........

It is easier for players and officials to get over the last result, they start planning for the next game, the next season. Fans mull over the last game until the next game and as we know all fans now how to do it best.



As for people saying games were boring, we have had many close results, the type that gets your heart rate racing gives you a big sigh of relief gives you that rush that makes you come back for more. That's entertainment you may not think that's why you come back but it is. If we won by 50 points each week you would soon get board, the close games make the 50 point wins better but if it was every week it would be bad. Loosing makes the winning that little bit better. I am not saying that we should loose, I hate loosing but that is sport that is why you go to the game to get the highs, loosing once in a while makes the winning that little bit better.



As for signings, the season is not over for all the clubs, maybe you should wait before you pass comment on this, at least until a few weeks after the end of the season.

Care to elaborate why you mention me? Not read my posts?

Cos you're prone to a moan, maybe?

He'd be too boring for our fans







Not whilst Emmo is still doing the announcements!

Oh yes I can moan with the best of them but not quite sure how it is relevant in this case. I will be going to watch Fax next season if we have 13 amateurs playing for us because thats what I do.

keep calm and carry on!

Greg i applaud you









a true FAX supporter .

Me too.



We have an emotional investment in the club which gives us the right to have a moan if we wish, but whatever happens between here and the start of the season, I will be there.

OK , OK ,OK , Bob you get a









also , im not a vindictive person , i cant speak Spanish though , i told you before im a Napoli Caroli .

Well a lot of last season WAS boring. We scraped some wins against some poor teams. Our half-backs were poor and our tackling was woeful at times....BUT, One more win at home to fev would have seen us win the league, maybe the GF and we won the cup on a great day in Blackpool. A strange season indeed! Roll on next year. Up The Fax!

My sentiments exactly, some people don't like us to say owt even the club but as long as it is CONSTRUCTIVE and honest then whats wrong with it? You need feedback in any walk of life and we give the club that by putting stuff on here, yer its easier than talking direct with somebody one to one or on the phone but its hardly hiding is it, everybody knows who you are on here!

see you all next season.