This post deserves more likes than any other on rl fans

come on i'll be the first.

I dont follow any story, I dont need a book to tell me right from wrong, catholic,jew,christian,mormon,hindu,scientology no problem with any



IS are different, when the local jehova's knock on sunday and we discuss belief they dont hack my head off afterwards, nor me theirs

Must be right, we had it in writing;







As we all know, Herr Hitler was a man of his word, and peace in all Europe duly and rapidly ensued.



Operation Sealion and Directive 16, like the Moon landings, are clearly just fakes.



War could have been avoided had Britain surrendered to Germany, but I have this pernickety thing whereby surrendering isn't quite equivalent to "being left alone". Call me picky.

Why? Gotten is, in fact, an old English word and the use of it is to be lauded before it disappears from our wonderful language for ever.



As long as it isn't used in the ised American way which idicates gaining a possession (e.g., 'I've gotten a new dumpster truck...'), it's fine.



Standee uses it in it's correct English format to indicate the past participle of 'get'. I.e., 'We shouldn't have gotten involved' is perfectly correct English.



Not to criticise any ill-gotten misconceptions, of course.

[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28939350Indefinite ceasefire agreed[/url



Let's see eh?

And in other news.



I actually thought that this dopey bint taking herself across the pond to the US would keep her quiet, apparently not:

First rule of any debate is not to reveal your shortcomings. Has she not heard of Google before pressing Tweet?



Idiot



Is she worth following for amusement value?

Not really mate, there's far too much tragedy to balance the amusement. You'd just end up gnashing your teeth or banging your head on a desk.



She really is fooking thick

Or, as the Oxford Dictionary puts it, "[iThe form gotten is not used in British English but is very common in North American English[/i." It may have roots in Old English/Norse but realistically it simply wasn't used here until the relentless barrage of American TV began to affect our language. Even now it's rarely used, and long may that continue.



Besides, it sounds stupid and the user sounds like a stupid pubescent American.



[size=85P.s. when trying to educate one's audience in the English language, it strengthens one's argument to ensure one's spelling and grammar are correct.

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I suppose the more people dumbly parrot American language abuses then the more will follow, and sadly eventually these horrible Americanisms will, by default, become assimilated.



We already have, in rugby league, widespread use of O-ffense and DE -fense, which I have spelled in American as thankfully all other instances of use of the English word "defence" are still used with the emphasis on the second syllable. But what was wrong with Attack & Defence?



Other words and phrases heading the same way:



"Momentarily" - as in "I'll be with you momentarily". No, I'm gonna need much more of your time than that, pal;



In every other news report, that news reporters' staple verbiage, the awful, ponderous and usually superflous, "in the coming days";



"To go", meaning to take out;



"Can I get". Urrrrrrrgh;



"Step up to the plate" - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrghhhhh!



... and sadly a regular on these very forums, the truly awful "Go figure!"

I take the "momentarily" quote to mean "I'll be with you in a moment" not "I'll be with you for a moment"



My own particular bugbear is "you do the math".



It's maths, you ignorant bastads, it's an abbreviation of mathematics, a plural, not a singular noun

Crumbs, I'm not a member of the grammar police, that particular glass-house has a tendency to shatter around me, as you've pointed out

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I love words, though, and lament the passing of words long traditional in the English language that are becoming/have become obsolete. A bleeding tragedy, I firmly believe. Gotten is one such word, like it or not. As I pointed out, the English usage of the word is markedly different to the abhorrent American adaptation. They use it to indicate possesion of an object ('I've gotten me a new cell phone...') whereas in English the correct usage is to indicate the past participle of 'get'.



We now tend to use the word 'got' instead. In Standee's example: "Had we not got involved..." 'got' sounds ungainly and crude. The traditional 'gotten' reads, sounds and flows better as can be seen by Standee's correct usage.



I hate, hate Americanisms, text-speak and vulgar adaptations into the English language that really don't belong here (toilet, serviette and pardon being particular bugbears of mine). But 'gotten' isn't one of them and long may it remain.

I really do wish he'd said "If we didn't get involved"

That's because 'got' sounds so clumsy and was therefore actively discouraged when we were taught English. That, in turn, is because the far more graceful 'gotten' was already passing into history.



I do wonder why, though. After all, "ill-gotten" is still commonplace.



Imagine saying, "The corrupt capitalists and their ill-got gains." It's obviously wrong. Gotten is correct.

Being a member of the Etymology Police automatically invites prosecution by the Grammar Police.





As far as I can tell, 'gotten' hasn't been in common usage in England since the 1700s and has certainly never played a part in modern English. That's more than long enough to consign it to the dustbin of the English language. The fact it's only via American TV that we are seeing it crop up again very occasionally is even more reason.

You all need to 'chill out'......

USA! USA! USA!



I generally assume Americans are just checking they've got the acronym to the name of their own country correct by continually shouting it in an aggressive manner when happy. Because to everyone else it just makes them look a bit simple.

If Islamic state aren't grammar police, they may get a few votes

FFS does it really matter?



My daughter is dyslexic and when someosked me how bad it was I replied:



"If you ask her to write dog ten times, you'll get 8 dogs, a bog and a god. But it would take a special kind of stupidity or pedantry to not realise that she'll never take god or a bog for a walk"

Grammar pedantry is fine if its humurus





Otherwise its just plain daft ,not big and not clever

[url=http://zelo-street.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/dont-menshn-rotherham.htmlIt gets better, she's even managing to overtake her own warped sense of reality now[/url

That tickled my funny bone that did

The scary thing is that people believe and agree with her.

No, it doesn't. But it's a discussion forum, innit?? If you feel posts about your ex, your cats and where you gotten your latest batch of fish from are of more interest, so be it. No-one cares about that either.



Anyway, the UN have delivered their report backing up claims of IS atrocities. Public opinion appears to be hardening, will it only be a matter of time before Cameron orders air strikes, or even better, a group of countries ally themselves to wiping them out? The problem comes if IS drops out of the headlines, the UK public tend to have a short attention span.



[url=http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/26/isis-apocalyptic-cult-carving-place-in-modern-worldAn excellent and honest piece on IS[/url by John Gray.

[url=http://libertyviral.com/egyptian-feminist-menstruates-poops-on-isis-flag-nsfw/#Egyptian Feminist Menstruates & Craps On ISIS Flag (nsfw)[/url



Very brave and/or very stupid. Either way, certainly a different way to get your point across. I suspect she'll have a price on her head.