Quote ="wire-quin"Great performance by Bojo whilst flanked by 2 brilliant minds. Bojo resonates with the ">country.'" Yes, your statement says it all. Shake my head and just laugh along nowadays, the bitterness went a long time ago Once you've accepted were a nation of dingbats it becomes a whole lot easier. icon_biggrin.gif" alt="icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />

Quote ="wire-quin"Great performance by Bojo whilst flanked by 2 brilliant minds. Bojo resonates with the ">country.'" Yes, your statement says it all. Shake my head and just laugh along nowadays, the bitterness went a long time ago Once you've accepted were a nation of dingbats it becomes a whole lot easier. icon_biggrin.gif" alt="icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />

Quote ="WIZEB"Yes, your statement says it all. Shake my head and just laugh along nowadays, the bitterness went a long time ago Once you've accepted were a nation of dingbats it becomes a whole lot easier. icon_biggrin.gif" alt="icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />'" To be fair he only went and got a disease and had a kid to boost his popularity. Thatcher and Blair started wars So he deserves some credit

Quote ="WIZEB"Yes, your statement says it all. Shake my head and just laugh along nowadays, the bitterness went a long time ago Once you've accepted were a nation of dingbats it becomes a whole lot easier. icon_biggrin.gif" alt="icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />'" To be fair he only went and got a disease and had a kid to boost his popularity. Thatcher and Blair started wars So he deserves some credit

He has great ratings from the public. The majority of Bojo haters seem to be members of this site, quite bizarre.

If this goes on much more we will have to pray at the alter of the NHS - let's get some perspective here.

Quote ="wire-quin"He has great ratings from the public. The majority of Bojo haters seem to be members of this site, quite ">bizarre.'" How much of it is 'propaganda'? Nicola Sturgeon: ‘Face coverings could be useful.’ BBC ‘Confusing idea, weak evidence; Sturgeon is playing divisive politics.’ NEXT DAY Boris Johnson: ’face coverings could be useful.’ BBC ‘Brilliant idea, well worth doing, will help bring the country together.’

Quote ="wire-quin"He has great ratings from the public. The majority of Bojo haters seem to be members of this site, quite ">bizarre.'" How much of it is 'propaganda'? Nicola Sturgeon: ‘Face coverings could be useful.’ BBC ‘Confusing idea, weak evidence; Sturgeon is playing divisive politics.’ NEXT DAY Boris Johnson: ’face coverings could be useful.’ BBC ‘Brilliant idea, well worth doing, will help bring the country together.’

Quote ="King Street Cat"How much of it is 'propaganda'? Nicola Sturgeon: ‘Face coverings could be useful.’ BBC ‘Confusing idea, weak evidence; Sturgeon is playing divisive politics.’ NEXT DAY Boris Johnson: ’face coverings could be useful.’ BBC ‘Brilliant idea, well worth doing, will help bring the country ">together.’'" succinctly put.. it's come to something that the only person calling these liars out is Piers Morgan of all people.

Quote ="King Street Cat"How much of it is 'propaganda'? Nicola Sturgeon: ‘Face coverings could be useful.’ BBC ‘Confusing idea, weak evidence; Sturgeon is playing divisive politics.’ NEXT DAY Boris Johnson: ’face coverings could be useful.’ BBC ‘Brilliant idea, well worth doing, will help bring the country ">together.’'" succinctly put.. it's come to something that the only person calling these liars out is Piers Morgan of all people.

The British Govt are terrified of relaxing lockdown but recommending face masks - because they know that their ineptitude in procuring them means that public demand would absolutely kill the NHS and Social Care supply.



It's another example of changing the guidance to suit the availability of supplies - as highlighted during the Panorama doc the other night.

Quote ="wotsupcas"I haven't said it gets a free pass. People are questioning the morals of it and I'm asking how many jobs would people be prepared to lose. Simple question really that hasn't been answered ">yet.'" The numbers of people employed is not important here. The ability for the country to defend itself should be the only issue. Selling arms to our allies and possibly precuring supplies from them is acceptable but, producing excess supplies in order to provide employment seems crazy, even if "mass production" helps bring the price down For our armed forces to be killed with "our" weapons seems absurd, especially if it's preventable. Although your figure of 130,000 people employed is a hell of a lot of jobs, in the grand scheme of things, it's not a huge figure and if, say, 50,000 of those are making guns to be turned on our own soldiers, that would be madness.

Quote ="wotsupcas"I haven't said it gets a free pass. People are questioning the morals of it and I'm asking how many jobs would people be prepared to lose. Simple question really that hasn't been answered ">yet.'" The numbers of people employed is not important here. The ability for the country to defend itself should be the only issue. Selling arms to our allies and possibly precuring supplies from them is acceptable but, producing excess supplies in order to provide employment seems crazy, even if "mass production" helps bring the price down For our armed forces to be killed with "our" weapons seems absurd, especially if it's preventable. Although your figure of 130,000 people employed is a hell of a lot of jobs, in the grand scheme of things, it's not a huge figure and if, say, 50,000 of those are making guns to be turned on our own soldiers, that would be madness.

Quote ="wrencat1873"The numbers of people employed is not important here. The ability for the country to defend itself should be the only issue. Selling arms to our allies and possibly precuring supplies from them is acceptable but, producing excess supplies in order to provide employment seems crazy, even if "mass production" helps bring the price down For our armed forces to be killed with "our" weapons seems absurd, especially if it's preventable. Although your figure of 130,000 people employed is a hell of a lot of jobs, in the grand scheme of things, it's not a huge figure and if, say, 50,000 of those are making guns to be turned on our own soldiers, that would be ">madness.'" 130,000 DIRECTLY employed, so quite a few more will depend on the industry. I'm not arguing the rights and wrongs of arms exports I am just trying, unsuccessfully, to find out how many of those jobs you would sacrifice on your moral altar. BTW I think the numbers employed are VERY important to those people who rely on it for a living.

Quote ="wrencat1873"The numbers of people employed is not important here. The ability for the country to defend itself should be the only issue. Selling arms to our allies and possibly precuring supplies from them is acceptable but, producing excess supplies in order to provide employment seems crazy, even if "mass production" helps bring the price down For our armed forces to be killed with "our" weapons seems absurd, especially if it's preventable. Although your figure of 130,000 people employed is a hell of a lot of jobs, in the grand scheme of things, it's not a huge figure and if, say, 50,000 of those are making guns to be turned on our own soldiers, that would be ">madness.'" 130,000 DIRECTLY employed, so quite a few more will depend on the industry. I'm not arguing the rights and wrongs of arms exports I am just trying, unsuccessfully, to find out how many of those jobs you would sacrifice on your moral altar. BTW I think the numbers employed are VERY important to those people who rely on it for a living.

Quote ="bren2k"The British Govt are terrified of relaxing lockdown but recommending face masks - because they know that their ineptitude in procuring them means that public demand would absolutely kill the NHS and Social Care supply. It's another example of changing the guidance to suit the availability of supplies - as highlighted during the Panorama doc the other ">night.'" Appreciate it affects you personally but they said face coverings not masks - distinct difference

Quote ="bren2k"The British Govt are terrified of relaxing lockdown but recommending face masks - because they know that their ineptitude in procuring them means that public demand would absolutely kill the NHS and Social Care supply. It's another example of changing the guidance to suit the availability of supplies - as highlighted during the Panorama doc the other ">night.'" Appreciate it affects you personally but they said face coverings not masks - distinct difference

Quote ="ColD"Appreciate it affects you personally but they said face coverings not masks - distinct difference'" icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" /> icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" /> icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" />

Quote ="ColD"Appreciate it affects you personally but they said face coverings not masks - distinct difference'" icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" /> icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" /> icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" />

Quote ="Willzay"icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" /> icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" />'" When Scotland suggested it they used scarfs, coverings could be made up of various attire could they not icon_confused.gif" alt="icon_confused.gif" title="Confused" />

Quote ="Willzay"icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" /> icon_rolleyes.gif" alt="icon_rolleyes.gif" title="Rolling Eyes" />'" When Scotland suggested it they used scarfs, coverings could be made up of various attire could they not icon_confused.gif" alt="icon_confused.gif" title="Confused" />

Quote ="bren2k"The British Govt are terrified of relaxing lockdown but recommending face masks - because they know that their ineptitude in procuring them means that public demand would absolutely kill the NHS and Social Care supply. It's another example of changing the guidance to suit the availability of supplies - as highlighted during the Panorama doc the other ">night.'" Absolute rubbish. Nothing to do with following WHO and scientific recommendations, of course? Oh no. Nothing to do with that. Look, it's always seemed logical to me that although a crappy, ill-fitting mask will do next to nothing to prevent you catching an airborne virus, it could help prevent an infected person spread it by catching some of the infected droplets in their breath/sneezes/coughs. However, many scientific studies and WHO advice on this have been very clear from day one: unless FFP2/3 and professionally fitted, masks are mostly useless and therefore not required outside a medical/care environment. And that's before we even consider the lack of eye protection... But - fast forward to the last few weeks and WHO advice has been gradually shifting based on a couple of studies in Hong Kong and other places, and if we're hoping to relax the lockdown soon it makes sense we take additional measures alongside social distancing, hand-washing etc. And although I don't believe it was a factor bearing in mind face mask recommendations were already in place, so what if NHS supplies were prioritised? Do you not accept they are far more important in a medical or care setting? Or that if the government had recommended face masks, 67 million Brits all rushing out to buy all the masks they can find might have had pretty severely detrimental affect on supplies - which were already stretched beyond belief? Or in your brain is everything simply "Bojo and da Tories dun bad". At the same time, you talk about ineptitude and complain incessantly of how the government/NHS struggled to maintain levels of PPE at times - well, so did you. Are you therefore inept? Shall we all slag you off in similar fashion? Multiply your struggles a million-fold and perhaps you'll get some idea of the challenges faced by NHS procurement, governments worldwide and probably 99% of general hospitals, doctor's surgeries and care homes on the planet. At least when you get hold of PPE you don't have 58,000 locations all demanding it. I think what I'm trying to say is, wind yer neck in: you, the NHS and the government are all doing the very best you can, and doing a grand job, in hugely challenging conditions. icon_smile.gif" alt="icon_smile.gif" title="Smile" /> Not that ignoramuses such as WIZEB would understand there's a lockdown in place. The law and doing his bit to help prevent the spread of the pandemic doesn't apply to him apparently.

Quote ="bren2k"The British Govt are terrified of relaxing lockdown but recommending face masks - because they know that their ineptitude in procuring them means that public demand would absolutely kill the NHS and Social Care supply. It's another example of changing the guidance to suit the availability of supplies - as highlighted during the Panorama doc the other ">night.'" Absolute rubbish. Nothing to do with following WHO and scientific recommendations, of course? Oh no. Nothing to do with that. Look, it's always seemed logical to me that although a crappy, ill-fitting mask will do next to nothing to prevent you catching an airborne virus, it could help prevent an infected person spread it by catching some of the infected droplets in their breath/sneezes/coughs. However, many scientific studies and WHO advice on this have been very clear from day one: unless FFP2/3 and professionally fitted, masks are mostly useless and therefore not required outside a medical/care environment. And that's before we even consider the lack of eye protection... But - fast forward to the last few weeks and WHO advice has been gradually shifting based on a couple of studies in Hong Kong and other places, and if we're hoping to relax the lockdown soon it makes sense we take additional measures alongside social distancing, hand-washing etc. And although I don't believe it was a factor bearing in mind face mask recommendations were already in place, so what if NHS supplies were prioritised? Do you not accept they are far more important in a medical or care setting? Or that if the government had recommended face masks, 67 million Brits all rushing out to buy all the masks they can find might have had pretty severely detrimental affect on supplies - which were already stretched beyond belief? Or in your brain is everything simply "Bojo and da Tories dun bad". At the same time, you talk about ineptitude and complain incessantly of how the government/NHS struggled to maintain levels of PPE at times - well, so did you. Are you therefore inept? Shall we all slag you off in similar fashion? Multiply your struggles a million-fold and perhaps you'll get some idea of the challenges faced by NHS procurement, governments worldwide and probably 99% of general hospitals, doctor's surgeries and care homes on the planet. At least when you get hold of PPE you don't have 58,000 locations all demanding it. I think what I'm trying to say is, wind yer neck in: you, the NHS and the government are all doing the very best you can, and doing a grand job, in hugely challenging conditions. icon_smile.gif" alt="icon_smile.gif" title="Smile" /> Not that ignoramuses such as WIZEB would understand there's a lockdown in place. The law and doing his bit to help prevent the spread of the pandemic doesn't apply to him apparently.

You are a godsend to Johnson because if they said jump your first response would be how high. What do you know about PPE and social care are you involved in the supplying of one or the running of the other. If not I would suggest you restrict yourself to things you know about and that is gullibility.

So what do we all do for gloves and sanitizers when all of the working people in the world have to share toilets, taps, kettles, fridges doors, cupboard doors, microwave doors, door handles, light switches, stair rails, pubs/restaurant chairs, tables, doctors/dentists/hairdressers waiting rooms and treatment chairs, public transport chairs, handles, buzzers, exchange money to the above. That's gloves and sanitizers for x millions of people for five/six days a week for 12-18 months? Nobody wears one pair of gloves for 8-10 hours a day.

Quote ="Mash Butty"So what do we all do for gloves and sanitizers when all of the working people in the world have to share toilets, taps, kettles, fridges doors, cupboard doors, microwave doors, door handles, light switches, stair rails, pubs/restaurant chairs, tables, doctors/dentists/hairdressers waiting rooms and treatment chairs, public transport chairs, handles, buzzers, exchange money to the above. That's gloves and sanitizers for x millions of people for five/six days a week for 12-18 months? Nobody wears one pair of gloves for 8-10 hours a ">day.'" And here we have a prime example: someone who just doesn't have a clue. Take this in: you do not need gloves, and you do not need sanitisers. Gloves: are meant for medical/care settings, where (like some other PPE) they are discarded after each individual patient contact to prevent cross infection. If you wear them throughout the day at work or your visit to the supermarket, all you do is accumulate nasties on your gloves and spread them to everything else you touch. You are doing lots of damage and absolutely zero good to anyone, including yourself. Just wash your hands regularly in soap and don't touch your face. Sanitisers: can kills viruses, but only if they are over 60% alcohol - ideally over 80%. Common soap is generally better at killing viruses. That's why the rush on sanitisers at the start of this was ridiculous, and why the 20 second hand-washing advice was issued - the advice you all mocked, yer know, cos y'all know better. d040.gif" alt="d040.gif" title="CRAZY" />

Quote ="Mash Butty"So what do we all do for gloves and sanitizers when all of the working people in the world have to share toilets, taps, kettles, fridges doors, cupboard doors, microwave doors, door handles, light switches, stair rails, pubs/restaurant chairs, tables, doctors/dentists/hairdressers waiting rooms and treatment chairs, public transport chairs, handles, buzzers, exchange money to the above. That's gloves and sanitizers for x millions of people for five/six days a week for 12-18 months? Nobody wears one pair of gloves for 8-10 hours a ">day.'" And here we have a prime example: someone who just doesn't have a clue. Take this in: you do not need gloves, and you do not need sanitisers. Gloves: are meant for medical/care settings, where (like some other PPE) they are discarded after each individual patient contact to prevent cross infection. If you wear them throughout the day at work or your visit to the supermarket, all you do is accumulate nasties on your gloves and spread them to everything else you touch. You are doing lots of damage and absolutely zero good to anyone, including yourself. Just wash your hands regularly in soap and don't touch your face. Sanitisers: can kills viruses, but only if they are over 60% alcohol - ideally over 80%. Common soap is generally better at killing viruses. That's why the rush on sanitisers at the start of this was ridiculous, and why the 20 second hand-washing advice was issued - the advice you all mocked, yer know, cos y'all know better. d040.gif" alt="d040.gif" title="CRAZY" />

Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"You are a godsend to Johnson because if they said jump your first response would be how high. What do you know about PPE and social care are you involved in the supplying of one or the running of the other. If not I would suggest you restrict yourself to things you know about and that is ">gullibility.'" Prove me wrong. Go on.

Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"You are a godsend to Johnson because if they said jump your first response would be how high. What do you know about PPE and social care are you involved in the supplying of one or the running of the other. If not I would suggest you restrict yourself to things you know about and that is ">gullibility.'" Prove me wrong. Go on.

Quote ="Cronus"And here we have a prime example: someone who just doesn't have a clue. Take this in: you do not need gloves, and you do not need sanitisers. d040.gif" alt="d040.gif" title="CRAZY" />'" . That has made my day

Quote ="Cronus"And here we have a prime example: someone who just doesn't have a clue. Take this in: you do not need gloves, and you do not need sanitisers. d040.gif" alt="d040.gif" title="CRAZY" />'" . That has made my day

Quote ="Mash Butty". That has made my day'" Like I said to the other moron - prove me wrong. Go on. Hint: you can't. Quote ="Cronus"Gloves: are meant for medical/care settings, where (like some other PPE) they are discarded after each individual patient contact to prevent cross infection. If you wear them throughout the day at work or your visit to the supermarket, all you do is accumulate nasties on your gloves and spread them to everything else you touch. You are doing lots of damage and absolutely zero good to anyone, including yourself. Just wash your hands regularly in soap and don't touch your face. Sanitisers: can kills viruses, but only if they are over 60% alcohol - ideally over 80%. Common soap is generally better at killing viruses. That's why the rush on sanitisers at the start of this was ridiculous, and why the 20 second hand-washing advice was issued - the advice you all mocked, yer know, cos y'all know ">better.'"

Quote ="Mash Butty". That has made my day'" Like I said to the other moron - prove me wrong. Go on. Hint: you can't. Quote ="Cronus"Gloves: are meant for medical/care settings, where (like some other PPE) they are discarded after each individual patient contact to prevent cross infection. If you wear them throughout the day at work or your visit to the supermarket, all you do is accumulate nasties on your gloves and spread them to everything else you touch. You are doing lots of damage and absolutely zero good to anyone, including yourself. Just wash your hands regularly in soap and don't touch your face. Sanitisers: can kills viruses, but only if they are over 60% alcohol - ideally over 80%. Common soap is generally better at killing viruses. That's why the rush on sanitisers at the start of this was ridiculous, and why the 20 second hand-washing advice was issued - the advice you all mocked, yer know, cos y'all know ">better.'"

I presume you took the name from Greek mythology because you usually post from his Greek predecessor.

I bet you still believe that the government is going to build 40 new hospitals and employ 50,000 new nurses.

Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I presume you took the name from Greek mythology because you usually post from his Greek predecessor. I bet you still believe that the government is going to build 40 new hospitals and employ 50,000 new ">nurses.'" Tell me again why you think gloves and sanitiser are so important, while you ignore the facts I've placed before you. I'm still waiting.

Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I presume you took the name from Greek mythology because you usually post from his Greek predecessor. I bet you still believe that the government is going to build 40 new hospitals and employ 50,000 new ">nurses.'" Tell me again why you think gloves and sanitiser are so important, while you ignore the facts I've placed before you. I'm still waiting.

Quote ="Cronus"Absolute rubbish. Nothing to do with following WHO and scientific recommendations, of course? Oh no. Nothing to do with that. Look, it's always seemed logical to me that although a crappy, ill-fitting mask will do next to nothing to prevent you catching an airborne virus, it could help prevent an infected person spread it by catching some of the infected droplets in their breath/sneezes/coughs. However, many scientific studies and WHO advice on this have been very clear from day one: unless FFP2/3 and professionally fitted, masks are mostly useless and therefore not required outside a medical/care environment. And that's before we even consider the lack of eye protection... But - fast forward to the last few weeks and WHO advice has been gradually shifting based on a couple of studies in Hong Kong and other places, and if we're hoping to relax the lockdown soon it makes sense we take additional measures alongside social distancing, hand-washing etc. And although I don't believe it was a factor bearing in mind face mask recommendations were already in place, so what if NHS supplies were prioritised? Do you not accept they are far more important in a medical or care setting? Or that if the government had recommended face masks, 67 million Brits all rushing out to buy all the masks they can find might have had pretty severely detrimental affect on supplies - which were already stretched beyond belief? Or in your brain is everything simply "Bojo and da Tories dun bad". At the same time, you talk about ineptitude and complain incessantly of how the government/NHS struggled to maintain levels of PPE at times - well, so did you. Are you therefore inept? Shall we all slag you off in similar fashion? Multiply your struggles a million-fold and perhaps you'll get some idea of the challenges faced by NHS procurement, governments worldwide and probably 99% of general hospitals, doctor's surgeries and care homes on the planet. At least when you get hold of PPE you don't have 58,000 locations all demanding it. I think what I'm trying to say is, wind yer neck in: you, the NHS and the government are all doing the very best you can, and doing a grand job, in hugely challenging conditions. icon_smile.gif" alt="icon_smile.gif" title="Smile" /> Not that ignoramuses such as WIZEB would understand there's a lockdown in place. The law and doing his bit to help prevent the spread of the pandemic doesn't apply to him ">apparently.'" Very enjoyable though, been back for 2nd's. Poor old Mrs Flashman.

Quote ="Cronus"Absolute rubbish. Nothing to do with following WHO and scientific recommendations, of course? Oh no. Nothing to do with that. Look, it's always seemed logical to me that although a crappy, ill-fitting mask will do next to nothing to prevent you catching an airborne virus, it could help prevent an infected person spread it by catching some of the infected droplets in their breath/sneezes/coughs. However, many scientific studies and WHO advice on this have been very clear from day one: unless FFP2/3 and professionally fitted, masks are mostly useless and therefore not required outside a medical/care environment. And that's before we even consider the lack of eye protection... But - fast forward to the last few weeks and WHO advice has been gradually shifting based on a couple of studies in Hong Kong and other places, and if we're hoping to relax the lockdown soon it makes sense we take additional measures alongside social distancing, hand-washing etc. And although I don't believe it was a factor bearing in mind face mask recommendations were already in place, so what if NHS supplies were prioritised? Do you not accept they are far more important in a medical or care setting? Or that if the government had recommended face masks, 67 million Brits all rushing out to buy all the masks they can find might have had pretty severely detrimental affect on supplies - which were already stretched beyond belief? Or in your brain is everything simply "Bojo and da Tories dun bad". At the same time, you talk about ineptitude and complain incessantly of how the government/NHS struggled to maintain levels of PPE at times - well, so did you. Are you therefore inept? Shall we all slag you off in similar fashion? Multiply your struggles a million-fold and perhaps you'll get some idea of the challenges faced by NHS procurement, governments worldwide and probably 99% of general hospitals, doctor's surgeries and care homes on the planet. At least when you get hold of PPE you don't have 58,000 locations all demanding it. I think what I'm trying to say is, wind yer neck in: you, the NHS and the government are all doing the very best you can, and doing a grand job, in hugely challenging conditions. icon_smile.gif" alt="icon_smile.gif" title="Smile" /> Not that ignoramuses such as WIZEB would understand there's a lockdown in place. The law and doing his bit to help prevent the spread of the pandemic doesn't apply to him ">apparently.'" Very enjoyable though, been back for 2nd's. Poor old Mrs Flashman.

Quote ="WIZEB"Very enjoyable though, been back for 2nd's. Poor old Mrs ">Flashman.'" You have done well there - you have managed to put 7 words together - that's a first for you icon_biggrin.gif" alt="icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />

Quote ="WIZEB"Very enjoyable though, been back for 2nd's. Poor old Mrs ">Flashman.'" You have done well there - you have managed to put 7 words together - that's a first for you icon_biggrin.gif" alt="icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />

Quote ="Sal Paradise"You have done well there - you have managed to put 7 words together - that's a first for you icon_biggrin.gif" alt="icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />'" Thanks. It must have been my private scholarship you champion so well that swayed it for me. Then again, I could just regurgitate from Con-HQ and their social news feeds, like your compadre, to give me an elevated sense of importance, but hey, I'd come across as dull as him.

Quote ="Sal Paradise"You have done well there - you have managed to put 7 words together - that's a first for you icon_biggrin.gif" alt="icon_biggrin.gif" title="Very Happy" />'" Thanks. It must have been my private scholarship you champion so well that swayed it for me. Then again, I could just regurgitate from Con-HQ and their social news feeds, like your compadre, to give me an elevated sense of importance, but hey, I'd come across as dull as him.

Quote ="Cronus"Tell me again why you think gloves and sanitiser are so important, while you ignore the facts I've placed before you. I'm still ">waiting.'" Well let’s see. Let’s play a game called pick the job and will have a look at the feasibility of dong that job without gloves or hand sanitiser. Starters for 10 Factory worker picking some tools up. Not sure who else might have picked them up. Either has his gloves on or alternatively has to use hand sanitiser because walking off the production line every 20 minutes to walk to the nearest toilet / sink is not feasible. All of The People who are currently wearing gloves at work will be joined by millions more who will also need gloves Or hand sanitiser. Interesting that the government is directing bus stations and transport hubs to provide hand sanitiser for passengers. They obviously ignored cronus’ advice that we don’t need hand sanitiser. Seems like hand sanitiser has become Cronus’ Marie Antoinette let them eat cake moment. But of course you know this . What you are actually doing is trying to justify going back to the herd immunity arguement as if you don’t have protective equipment than it is good if people catch it . Problem is that no one knows how long immunity lasts or the impact of catching it again. But then again we do not know that it affects poor people and BAME groups more. Maybe that is Cronus’ motivation.

Quote ="Cronus"Tell me again why you think gloves and sanitiser are so important, while you ignore the facts I've placed before you. I'm still ">waiting.'" Well let’s see. Let’s play a game called pick the job and will have a look at the feasibility of dong that job without gloves or hand sanitiser. Starters for 10 Factory worker picking some tools up. Not sure who else might have picked them up. Either has his gloves on or alternatively has to use hand sanitiser because walking off the production line every 20 minutes to walk to the nearest toilet / sink is not feasible. All of The People who are currently wearing gloves at work will be joined by millions more who will also need gloves Or hand sanitiser. Interesting that the government is directing bus stations and transport hubs to provide hand sanitiser for passengers. They obviously ignored cronus’ advice that we don’t need hand sanitiser. Seems like hand sanitiser has become Cronus’ Marie Antoinette let them eat cake moment. But of course you know this . What you are actually doing is trying to justify going back to the herd immunity arguement as if you don’t have protective equipment than it is good if people catch it . Problem is that no one knows how long immunity lasts or the impact of catching it again. But then again we do not know that it affects poor people and BAME groups more. Maybe that is Cronus’ motivation.