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| and why should we?
did they donate to the disaster appeal after the fl... oh, sorry, there wasn't one.
let them deal with their own politics
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| Quote Standee="Standee"and why should we?
did they donate to the disaster appeal after the fl... oh, sorry, there wasn't one.
let them deal with their own politics'"
Who are ' them ' and what ' politics ' are you referring to?
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus"I believe the majority of their weapons are materiel captured from Syria and from when the Iraqi army abandoned their posts en masse, including a lot of US hardware.
A quick search tells me their haul includes SA-7 and Stinger surface-to-air missiles, M79 Osa, HJ-8 and AT-4 Spigot anti-tank weapons, Type 59 field guns and 52 M198 howitzers, 1,500 Humvees, T-54/55 and T-72 main battle tanks, M117 armoured cars, truck mounted DShK guns, ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft guns, BM-21 Grad multiple rocket launchers, 4,000 PKC machine guns and at least one Scud missile.
Meanwhile the Kurds have little beyond light weapons. One chap on the news last night looked like he was armed with frigging musket.
That said, I'm sure their are weapons manufacturers or traders who would have no problem selling to anyone wielding a huge wad of cash.'"
Bloody 'ell, that's a fair haul.
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| This is sunni Muslims v shia muslims and non muslims, which is why most of the arab states like Saudi and Qatar are funding them. what these dopey fooking countries don't understand is that if IS by some miracle do take over Iraq they'll be coming for Saudi arabia next, and and then Qatar, UAE etc. Having experienced the Saudi military personally they will do what the iraqi army did, down guns and run away. The al saud family are only in charge because they let the clerics have free control on the population, which is why they have so many spies everywhere among the population and military.
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| Quote Cronus="Cronus" I've seen pictures of a Christian girl tortured and tied to a bed, a cross inserted in her mouth and hammered out through the back of her head.'"
What on earth were you searching for?
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| I dunno what Cronus was searching for, but AFAIK it is illegal to have snuff images of kids on your PC and I seem to have heard the "merely research" defence before somewhere
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"What on earth were you searching for?'"
There's a section for this on p*rnhub
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| Funny how the man charged with bringing peace to the Middle East does a disappearing act every time more trouble breaks out. What are you doing Tony?
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| Whilst I agree with every point raised by Cronius, there is a part of me that thinks, why bloody us again? Our defence industry has made billions selling top grade military kit to the Saudis, UAE, Qatar etc.
There's more than enough there for those Arabs to get off their s and take care of the problem the whole region is facing.
And has anyone heard one squeak of condemnation from any Muslim Authority here in the UK? I asked a couple of Asian friends, "Why the silence?" The reply was an eye opener...."They (ISIS) are already amongst us.....they are actively recruiting our young men....they know where we live! That's why we're saying nowt!"
And of course, there are a good few hundred Brits out there in the ISIS ranks that will be looking to come home sometime.
Deal with it now, even if that means boots on the ground as part of a UN backed coalition. Otherwise,the consequences could be horrendous.
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| Maybe if the 3 million or so Iraqi soldiers didnt run from the initial 800 ISIS, the world wouldnt be in this predicament.
'murica and the UK have spent $2trillion trying to rebuild Iraq, for some rogues in black masks to come take it and all the equipment/cash. Yep, that was worth it.
Given the amount of american oil companies that reside in Kurdistan, was it really any co incidence 'murica got involved when ISIS were 25 miles from it?
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| Quote 100% Wire="100% Wire"www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28862268
Sh*t just got real'"
IS has effectively just signed its own death warrant.
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| Quote Him="Him"IS has effectively just signed its own death warrant.'"
B*stards, the lot of 'em. They're smart though, having one of their British fighters carrying the execution, they know exactly what they're doing.
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| Quote Him="Him"IS has effectively just signed its own death warrant.'"
You would like to think so wouldn't you. It will be interesting to see what Obama does now.
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| Quote 100% Wire="100% Wire"B*stards, the lot of 'em. They're smart though, having one of their British fighters carrying the execution, they know exactly what they're doing.'"
Of course. But while it gets the attention of the public around the world. It also concentrates the attention of the US military squarely on them.
I'd actually say it's a pretty dumb thing to do.
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| Quote Lebron James="Lebron James"You would like to think so wouldn't you. It will be interesting to see what Obama does now.
Regards
King James'"
Yep. He'll have to respond in some fashion. And he can't now allow a campaign against IS to just fizzle out after a few weeks of bombing them. He'll have to see it through to the end now.
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| Quote 100% Wire="100% Wire"B*stards, the lot of 'em. They're smart though, having one of their British fighters carrying the execution, they know exactly what they're doing.'"
He is not British - It is the one thing through all this that seriously winds me up, when they describe these jihadists as 'British'.... They lose the right to be called British, the moment that they sign up for this nonsense.
Our authorities know who these scum are who are signing up for this 'holy' war - Simply, their passports should be voided and they should never ever step foot back in this country (if they attempt it).
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"He is not British - It is the one thing through all this that seriously winds me up, when they describe these jihadists as 'British'.... They lose the right to be called British, the moment that they sign up for this nonsense.
Our authorities know who these scum are who are signing up for this 'holy' war - Simply, their passports should be voided and they should never ever step foot back in this country (if they attempt it).'"
remember the crusades?
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| Quote Dita's Slot Meter="Dita's Slot Meter"He is not British - It is the one thing through all this that seriously winds me up, when they describe these jihadists as 'British'.... They lose the right to be called British, the moment that they sign up for this nonsense.
Our authorities know who these scum are who are signing up for this 'holy' war - Simply, their passports should be voided and they should never ever step foot back in this country (if they attempt it).'"
How on earth do you "void" the passport of someone who was born and raised here?
The state cannot simply make a British citizen stateless, no matter what crimes they may have committed.
You've come up with some wild [is[/ihit it the past but this surpasses anything previous
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"...
The state cannot simply make a British citizen stateless, no matter what crimes they may have committed.
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Not one born here, no, but a naturalised one, yes. And apparently in recent times the Home Secretary has served at least 27 Notices of Deprivation, doing exactly that, regardless.
By an astonishing co-incidence, at least 2 of those were killed by US drones shortly afterwards.
But, we did in 1961 sign up to the UN Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness, so that's all right.
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| I thought passports can be confiscated/cancelled without any need for any legal process does it not say that inside your passport? Is the issue of the passport not at the discretion on the Home Office?
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Not one born here, no, but a naturalised one, yes. And apparently in recent times the Home Secretary has served at least 27 Notices of Deprivation, doing exactly that, regardless.
By an astonishing co-incidence, at least 2 of those were killed by US drones shortly afterwards.
But, we did in 1961 sign up to the UN Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness, so that's all right.'"
What does the 1961 convention state ?
Nigel Farage has been promoting himself as a sage on everything on TV again by declaring that there is a law still in force from the 1870s that allows the country to remove citizenship from anyone found to be guilty of aiding a foreign state, he believes it was used in the two world wars for anyone who opted to fight for Germany (for instance).
Its possible that Nigel may not have researched the subject properly though.
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| If the guy carrying out that execution was born and raised in Britain, and has a British passport, then he is technically Brtish, regardless of his actions.
Still a horrible c*nt, though.
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| Quote JerryChicken="JerryChicken"What does the 1961 convention state ?
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Quote JerryChickenArticle 8: - Contracting States shall not deprive people of their nationality so as to render them stateless. '"
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| Quote Sal Paradise="Sal Paradise"I thought passports can be confiscated/cancelled without any need for any legal process does it not say that inside your passport? Is the issue of the passport not at the discretion on the Home Office?'"
How is this relevant? It is not compulsory for any British citizen to ever hold a passport, and cancellation of a passport is irrelevant to nationality.
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