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| Watch Dogs looks fantastic, that's a game I will be picking up.
Strangely looking forward to Nintendo today, ZombiU looks like something totally different to what I'd expect from Nintendo and the graphics on Rayman were brilliant so hopefully they show some gameplay today for something like Zelda.
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| Quote Nothus="Nothus"Wow, anyone after a new game to look forward to should go and check out Watch_Dogs, a game just shown off by Ubisoft. It looks really, really good.'"
Looks utterly unbelievably good. But the demo they showed off is clearly on a very space age PC with Direct X 11 with a pair of £3,000 graphics cards no doubt. There is no way the current consoles could anywhere close to replicating those graphics, or the volume and movement of NPCs. Which begs the question, is the console version dialled way, way back, or is it being developed for the next generation of consoles? I don't think they mentioned which systems it's being developed for.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Looks utterly unbelievably good. But the demo they showed off is clearly on a very space age PC with Direct X 11 with a pair of £3,000 graphics cards no doubt'"
If anything it would be a pair of GTX690s (£874 each) at the very most although it'd more likely be just the one, DX11 has been around for ages.
The PS3 will do well with it, even if the graphics are slightly scaled back - the Xbox will probably end up being multiple discs.
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| Fifa 13 is basically just Fifa 12 with new squads and kits if the trailer is anything to go by.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Looks utterly unbelievably good. But the demo they showed off is clearly on a very space age PC with Direct X 11 with a pair of £3,000 graphics cards no doubt. There is no way the current consoles could anywhere close to replicating those graphics, or the volume and movement of NPCs. Which begs the question, is the console version dialled way, way back, or is it being developed for the next generation of consoles? I don't think they mentioned which systems it's being developed for.'"
As another xbox or Playstation havent been announced yet it would have to be for this generation... Not sure they could announce a game being for a console that hasnt been confirmed. Also after having a look around online, there are several people suggesting its being made with the same engine that powers Assassins Creed 3, Anvil. Therefore very much this generation 
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| Finished MP3 today. Superb story. There was enough small variation in the level design plus set pieces to prevent it from being boring. Can other people finish it please, because I have a lot of questions re: the story.
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| Quote Matt23="Matt23"Finished MP3 today. Superb story. There was enough small variation in the level design plus set pieces to prevent it from being boring. Can other people finish it please, because I have a lot of questions re: the story.'"
I finished it the other day. Excellent game.
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| Just rewatched a few of the cut scenes which has cleared up a bit of it.
Spoiler...........
xx=#BFFFBFLooks like the youngest Branco Brother had it coming to him with the old tyre fire. Not a nice way to go though!xx
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| Quote Captain Charisma="Captain Charisma"As another xbox or Playstation havent been announced yet it would have to be for this generation... Not sure they could announce a game being for a console that hasnt been confirmed. Also after having a look around online, there are several people suggesting its being made with the same engine that powers Assassins Creed 3, Anvil. Therefore very much this generation
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Well it's well known that developers have had access to the next PS (codename Orbit) for quite some time now, so there's every chance it could be a title for the next gen consoles.
I agree that the amount of processing power needed to run that game is too high for current gen consoles.
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| Quote Nothus="Nothus"Well it's well known that developers have had access to the next PS (codename Orbit) for quite some time now, so there's every chance it could be a title for the next gen consoles.
I agree that the amount of processing power needed to run that game is too high for current gen consoles.'"
It's been confirmed it was demoed on a monster PC but that's it is coming out on PC, Xbox 360 and PS3. I knew PC games were ahead graphically, but there is no way they will get the PS3/Xbox 360 versions looking anything like that. The rain is spectacular, as is the wind. The rain in the wind is even better. It's not just how it's looked either, it's the movement of the NPCs and how they react to the environment. I imagine they will just scale it right back, maybe changing the viewing angle to reduce the field of vision/draw distance or something.
Xbox impressed me at the conference with the direction they are taking. The 'assault on the big tele' that was muted when this generation came out is now slowly taking shape and shows how in the future games consoles could be your entertainment, you wouldn't really need anything else. The Smartglass idea is really cool, as is the integration of the Music and movies between devices. One thing that confused me was whether these things, Music and Movies and smartglass would be on iphone/android as well as Windows Phone? They definitely mentioned Smartglass on other devices, but I'm not sure whether that's just the ability to use your phone screen to control the internet browser, or whether it extends to everything? If not, it's one more reason for trying Windows Phone, as I hate Apple and am pretty bored of Android to be honest.
What are people's thoughts of the Nintendo show? It seemed very stereotypically Nintendo, bright primary colours, clouds, pipes, plumbers and the same utterly boring franchises they have had for 20 years. The Wii U's pad didn't look very good either and is rumoured to have a 3 hour battery life, which if true makes it pretty stupid. Mind, it's probably plenty of time as most people don't use a Wii for more than an hour every six months.  (Flame away Nintendo fans, I'd be interested to hear what you thought of it)
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| Quote Matt23="Matt23"Just rewatched a few of the cut scenes which has cleared up a bit of it.
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xx=#BFFFBFLooks like the youngest Branco Brother had it coming to him with the old tyre fire. Not a nice way to go though!xx'"
To be honest I knew there was something dodgy about those 2 (I tend to have a hard time trusting rich people in real life and games are no different  . I kept repeating "She kidknapped herself" from the Big Lebowski, and at other times I thought it was similar to 'Man on Fire' I didn't see the bit in the hotel coming (organs).
It really annoys me that the story in all 3 games is so good but the films are 5hite.
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| Watch Dogs won't be out this generation. Expect the new machines to be here late next year. Valve (developers of Half Life) are rumoured to be bringing out their own console in time for the next generation its called 'The Steam box'. Its a rubbish name but all what I hear has been go so far.
Gears of war 4 has been confirmed asweel, to be made by the Polish dudes who made Bulletstorm (very underrated game)
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| Watch Dogs looked amazing, as did The Last of Us and Beyond. Not much else to see this year though.
FIFA 13 looked uninspiring, the only good new things are the first touch system and tactical free kicks, defending still looks poor.
Hope there is a new console out next year though.
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| Quote Charlie Sheen="Charlie Sheen"Watch Dogs won't be out this generation'"
Ubisoft said today it is. PC, 360 and PS3. Hopefully just smoke and mirrors and new gen is coming.
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| The Wii U could be amazing, but it won't be because of the games. Nintendo will promote the greatness of it by using things like Wii Sports and Just Dance, but what makes a console is the quality of the games -- not the amount of frothy-mouthed kids that get them for Christmas. The 'Pad' could be used to really enhance the 'first person' element of so many games, not specifically shooting games, more action/adventure/puzzle games. It could add new levels of detail and skill to solving things, but it will instead be used as a strobe light for little kids as they go nuts for their party games.
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| Anyone seen what they've started doing with Playstation Plus now? Join up and you get 12 free games to download straight away and you get to keep them for as long as your subscription runs out. I didn't download them all as I aren't interested in them all and I don't have much memory left on my PS3 but got Infamous 2, Virtua Fighter 5, Oddworld: Strangers Wrath, Motorstorm: Apocalypse and Littlebigplanet 2!
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| Yeah a great deal for PS Plus subscribers. It was already a great deal, now even more so.
The Wii U pad just seems like a massive gimmick to me. The console supports the use of two, but they have confirmed that games will only run at 30fps if two tablets are used. Wtf?!
It also seemed a little silly to me the way that they spent so much time on Arkham City - a game most people have already played last year. Again the use of the tablet just seemed like a gimmick, you could do everything the tablet did on the original version by just using a few menus.
All in all it seemed like a subdued E3 from both Microsoft and Sony. The lack of new IPs is a bit depressing imo, out of the whole expo there are only really two new IPs that I can think of, everything else is a sequel.
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| Quote Nothus="Nothus"All in all it seemed like a subdued E3 from both Microsoft and Sony'"
Clearly the calm before the storm. I liked Microsoft's presentation, you can see the direction they are headed in. The next Xbox will pick up the Kinect (Upgraded and part of the console package), Smartglass, Music, Movies stuff seamlessly one would expect.
I'd say the big IPs are being held back for the next generation. This generation is done IMO and needs to be replaced. There has been very little new over the last 12 months and I doubt there will be over the next 12 months either.
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| Quote Nothus="Nothus"The Wii U pad just seems like a massive gimmick to me. The console supports the use of two, but they have confirmed that games will only run at 30fps if two tablets are used. Wtf?!'"
Classic Nintendo. The Wii was a mess, terrible cheapo hardware, appalling software, terrible 3rd party support, poor media capabilities and ridiculously poor online services. Yet it was a commercial smash hit, with there now being a Wii in 97% of the cupboards under the UK's stairs.
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| Some good things from E3 but on the whole it was a let down.
No new consoles, no GTA V, meh.
Xbox 3 hopefully next year, I would bet that PS4 won't be out before Xbox 3.
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| Quote TFC="TFC"Some good things from E3 but on the whole it was a let down.
No new consoles, no GTA V, meh.
Xbox 3 hopefully next year, I would bet that PS4 won't be out before Xbox 3.'"
Classic Rockstar though they won't show anything. I remember when GTA 4 came out, nobody saw any gameplay footage until the game was actually released.
Only game I'm looking forward to from E3 is Assassins Creed 3, look quality!
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| Quote TFC="TFC"I would bet that PS4 won't be out before Xbox 3.'"
Which is a shame because the games still aren't even getting the PS3 to 60% capacity, never mind 100% like a lot of games on the 360 have been.
The problem with the next consoles, if rumours are to be believed is at launch they will already be a year (at least) behind a PC in terms of graphics because the new Xbox is supposedly having a current GPU in it...when the new ones are due out again around Christmas time.
Another problem is if the no discs and every game has to be downloaded thing is true, that would be a terrible move, just look at how much they try charging for games on PSN compared to Amazon etc.
But there is good news! (  ) Infinity Ward have been advertising for developer jobs to work on a game for the new consoles...Modern Warfare 4 as a launch title anybody?
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| Quote Gronk!="Gronk!"Which is a shame because the games still aren't even getting the PS3 to 60% capacity, never mind 100% like a lot of games on the 360 have been.
The problem with the next consoles, if rumours are to be believed is at launch they will already be a year (at least) behind a PC in terms of graphics because the new Xbox is supposedly having a current GPU in it...when the new ones are due out again around Christmas time.
Another problem is if the no discs and every game has to be downloaded thing is true, that would be a terrible move, just look at how much they try charging for games on PSN compared to Amazon etc.
But there is good news! (
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Consoles will always be behind PC in terms of graphics, simply because they are a third of the price.
The no discs thing is inevitable IMO. It cuts the second hand market out of the loop entirely, which is threatening to destroy the industry at present. The last thing I heard was the games would still be sold in stores, but instead of buying a physical product, you bought a voucher code that enables the download, enabling gaming to keep a presence on the high street whilst preventing people recycling games and denying the developers money.
What rumours have you heard about the new Xbox? MS have repeatedly insisted it will be released in 2015 and if that's true, they won't be finalising hardware for another year I'd say. Sony surely won't develop another Playstation at the moment given how much money they are losing. I know the PS4 is rumoured to be out next year, but it's not likely given they lost £4bn this year.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"
What rumours have you heard about the new Xbox? MS have repeatedly insisted it will be released in 2015 and if that's true, they won't be finalising hardware for another year I'd say. Sony surely won't develop another Playstation at the moment given how much money they are losing. I know the PS4 is rumoured to be out next year, but it's not likely given they lost £4bn this year.'"
I've heard it'll be out the back end of 2013. I've also heard 2014 mentioned.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Consoles will always be behind PC in terms of graphics, simply because they are a third of the price.
The no discs thing is inevitable IMO. It cuts the second hand market out of the loop entirely, which is threatening to destroy the industry at present. The last thing I heard was the games would still be sold in stores, but instead of buying a physical product, you bought a voucher code that enables the download, enabling gaming to keep a presence on the high street whilst preventing people recycling games and denying the developers money.
What rumours have you heard about the new Xbox? MS have repeatedly insisted it will be released in 2015 and if that's true, they won't be finalising hardware for another year I'd say. Sony surely won't develop another Playstation at the moment given how much money they are losing. I know the PS4 is rumoured to be out next year, but it's not likely given they lost £4bn this year.'"
You could get a PC that easily outperforms a 360 or PS3 for £250-300.
The 'current-gen' consoles are so far behind current PC tech it's not even funny.
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