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| I like how they are saying Argentina should respect the democratic process whilst SKY seem determined to find the 3 people who didn't vote in favour! Why? What will that achieve other than possibly ostracise them?
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| Quote ryano="ryano"I like how they are saying Argentina should respect the democratic process whilst SKY seem determined to find the 3 people who didn't vote in favour! Why? What will that achieve other than possibly ostracise them?'"
Sky or anyone else should respect the concept of the secret ballot.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"Sky or anyone else should respect the concept of the secret ballot.'"
Spot on. Though those 3 may have wished for an independent Falklands or some other situation rather than being a part of Argentina.
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| It'll be that nice Mr and Mrs Galtieri and their son Derek at No. 12
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| Wonder what the new Pope's views on the islands is?
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Wonder what the new Pope's views on the islands is?'"
Who gives a ?
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Wonder what the new Pope's views on the islands is?'"
He's fully entitled to his views on the islands, whatever they are ... but beyond that it's nothing to do with him i.e. his position doesn't change a thing.
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| he believes that the Argies who died in the War are heroes for defending their land against British usurpers.
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| Quote EHW="EHW"he believes that the Argies who died in the War are heroes for defending their land against British usurpers.'"
Yeah but look at it this way, his other beliefs are not rooted in logic either ... and they got him the top job in a whole system not rooted in logic.
Whoops, that's religion ... sorry.
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| Quote Wanderer="Wanderer"He's fully entitled to his views on the islands, whatever they are ... but beyond that it's nothing to do with him i.e. his position doesn't change a thing.'"
Papal influence down the ages has waned from what it used to be by a very large degree. I did A level History years ago and the European history taught was dominated by the conflicts between the Papacy and European rulers such as Otto 1 of the Holy Roman Empire.
When you learn a bit of history from this time it soon becomes apparent the position of the Pope was more of a ruler than any kind of prophet.
These days while he doesn't rule in that sense it doesn't mean the Pope doesn't have any influence. You just watch if he says anything on the Falklands now how much it gets reported or is used as propaganda.
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| Quote El Barbudo="El Barbudo"Yeah but look at it this way, his other beliefs are not rooted in logic either ... and they got him the top job in a whole system not rooted in logic.
Whoops, that's religion ... sorry.'"
Lock it
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO" You just watch if he says anything on the Falklands now how much it gets reported or is used as propaganda.'"
Whilst I wouldn't argue that anything said would of course be newsworthy, I still don't feel that ultimately it will make any difference to the status of the island. Personally, I feel that it is time for Argentina to accept the situation ... Will it? Probably not.
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| Quote Wanderer="Wanderer"He's fully entitled to his views on the islands, whatever they are ... but beyond that it's nothing to do with him i.e. his position doesn't change a thing.'"
He is now spiritual leader of millions of Argie catholics and they take this stuff very seriously. If he pronounced that the Falklands should be left alone then his views would carry a whole lot of weight with a large proportion of the Argentinian population. Of course I wouldn't expect him to become at all involved - but to say that his views- if he expressed them - wouldn't be very significant indeed is clearly not right. They would.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"When you learn a bit of history from this time it soon becomes apparent the position of the Pope was more of a ruler than any kind of prophet. '"
The Papal Army was finally reduced to nothing but the Swiss Guard, essentially bodyguards, in 1970. The idea that the Pope is a non-military leader is only three years older than me.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"He is now spiritual leader of millions of Argie catholics and they take this stuff very seriously. If he pronounced that the Falklands should be left alone then his views would carry a whole lot of weight with a large proportion of the Argentinian population. '"
That would be a 'blessing'.
Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Of course I wouldn't expect him to become at all involved.'"
Me neither however newsworthy it may be if he did.
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| Quote Wanderer="Wanderer"He's fully entitled to his views on the islands, whatever they are ... but beyond that it's nothing to do with him i.e. his position doesn't change a thing.'"
As an Argentinian his voice will be more than heard my the majority of South Americans plus millions of others throughout the world. If he chose to get politically involved over The Falklands I would suggest the UK's position could become untenable. Do I think the Pope would get involved? No. But it remains an outside possiblity.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"As an Argentinian his voice will be more than heard my the majority of South Americans plus millions of others throughout the world. If he chose to get politically involved over The Falklands I would suggest the UK's position could become untenable. Do I think the Pope would get involved? No. But it remains an outside possiblity.'"
No, (as per my previous post) I don't think he'll get involved .
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| Quote Dally="Dally"As an Argentinian his voice will be more than heard my the majority of South Americans plus millions of others throughout the world. If he chose to get politically involved over The Falklands I would suggest the UK's position could become untenable. Do I think the Pope would get involved? No. But it remains an outside possiblity.'"
The islands are ours and nothing will change that and both sides cannot be dragged to talks about it.
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“Las Malvinas are ours": New Argentinian Pope Francis has hard line on Falkland Islands
www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... nd-1762205
What do you reckon to that?
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“Las Malvinas are ours": New Argentinian Pope Francis has hard line on Falkland Islands
www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... nd-1762205
What do you reckon to that?
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Reckon if he speaks out again whilst Pope it won't be long before a new Pope is being elected.
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Reckon if he speaks out again whilst Pope it won't be long before a new Pope is being elected.
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Reckon if he speaks out again whilst Pope it won't be long before a new Pope is being elected.'"
Why?
How much respect or power do you think the US's little poodle carries nowdays in Europe or more importantly on the global stage?
Nowhere near as much as empirical little Englanders like you may believe.
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That the Mirror are looking to create a story?
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That the Mirror are looking to create a story?
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| Quote Dally="Dally"Reckon if he speaks out again whilst Pope it won't be long before a new Pope is being elected.'"
You think they'd have him assassinated??
tell more . . .
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"icon_eek.gif
You think they'd have him assassinated??
tell more . . .'"
Wasn'r Pope John Paul I bumped off ?
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| Quote Dead Man Walking="Dead Man Walking"Wasn'r Pope John Paul I bumped off ?'"
Why are you asking me? Anyway if he was, I have a cast-iron alibi.
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