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| Quote ="Cronus"Of course we're not going to get everything we would want in a perfect world. As I've said since the beginning - a deal will be reached that is reasonably good for all concerned. We'll probably see some trade tariffs but anything punitive would also damage the EU. This is precisely why the terms 'hard' and 'soft' Brexit are utterly meaningless: both sides simply want the best they can agree and the deal will be whatever it ends up being.
We're leaving the customs union - this has been made clear - the EU's stance has always been that any customs union means ceding to EU rules and that's what we're moving away from. There's a slim chance some bespoke union could be agreed but I think it's unlikely given the EU's dogged insistence on retaining power.
The only ones making a massive fuss of every single syllable uttered by every single Tory says are the press. People within every party have differing views, always have, always will. Look at Labour if you want true bitter division and confusion (Momentum anyone?) - I'm not even sure most Labour MPs know what line they're supposed to be following. Fact is, it doesn't really matter what Bojo or Hammond or anyone else says - Davis (and his team) and May are the voices that matter and despite the daily doom-mongering of the press, things are progressing.
For me the only true sticking point is the border with Eire and oil be fecked if I can figure out how they're gonna sort it. Some form of soft border is inevitable I suspect, but whether that's at the NI/Eire border, or the NI or even Eire sea/air borders I don't know. The rest will be thrashed out and agreed in due course.
I feel it's only right to reference this [url=https://www.economist.com/news/britain/21736178-harrogates-downward-migration-trend-few-years-ahead-britains-how-it-faringEconomist article[/url again for a possible snapshot of what we can look forward to. Rising wages, more job opportunities, lower unemployment, house and rental prices increasing at a more reasonable pace due to a less frantic demand, lower end wages up by 9% - even some teenagers being paid above minimum wage. Exactly the reverse of some of the big issues surrounding freedom of movement.'"
What's the weather like on Fantasy Island?
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| Quote ="Cronus"Cry me a river. No it's not.'"
The term "Paddy" is an ethnic slur, or a ethnophaulism if you like....but either way, it shows that you are a narrow minded bigot stuck in the 1970's when racism was considered OK......calling me a Paddy is as racist as using the N word......but because I'm white, you do't get it......
As for the canon fodder remark........Britain used to control Ireland, we took up arms, Britain no longer controls Ireland.......paint it as white as you want you racist bigot, you lost and you'll lose again. Your response to a handful of misled Muslim idiots blowing themselves up was Brexit.......you've really lost the plot and now you're scrambling for a semblance of relevancy in a world that no longer considers Britain the of anything other than farcical politics and whining like little girls....you were led up the garden path and you and your ilk, racist northerners blaming Muslims on TV, white Van man bitching about immigrants, Cab drivers moaning about UBER, Rupert Murdoch disciple, UKIP knucklehead....you've all buggered the generations to come with your narrow minded racist mantra.....and the people really responsible will continue to sell arms to Arabs whilst blaming Arabs and you'll cheer-lead them, because you're too stupid to have your own opinion...because you're a racist, painted into a corner and unable to do anything other than close your eyes and call me Paddy.
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| Quote ="Cronus"I won't even go into why the Republicans surrendered with a pathetic whimper and chose the diplomatic path '"
So, British Troops are off the streets, you released IRA killers and you still don't have a clue where the semtex and Guns are? Yeah...some surrender
Quote ="Cronus" why is NI still firmly part of the UK?'"
Because without the racist protestants that you put there 400 years ago, the Tories and Brexit would be done.....over,,,,,finished.
Quote ="Cronus"Christ if the IRA or one of their offshoots couldn't win back in the day, they haven't a prayer in the age of 24/7 deep surveillance/intelligence. '"
They beat the British Army and the Protestant paras, helped by the British Army and the RUC........the RUC who aren't even Royal anymore......but we didn't win
Quote ="Cronus"There's a reason the phrase 'paddy factor' was a thing. Omagh ain't the Wild West anymore, your cannon fodder are in for short careers.
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That's what Cromwell thought......and Churchill and a host of other political heavyweights......Thatcher pooped her pants after Brighton and it was all downhill and knuckledragger tactics thereafter.....sledgehammer to crack the nut but you lot kept missing the nut until the Americans stepped in and saved you from yourselves.
British Army collusion with the UDA/UVF is now a fact of record BTW.......so if there is a next time, expect Blue Helmets on the ground......because British government attempts at genocide in Ireland are now well documented....and the EU will have the UN in like flynn.
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| Quote ="Call Me God"So, British Troops are off the streets, you released IRA killers and you still don't have a clue where the semtex and Guns are? Yeah...some surrender
Because without the racist protestants that you put there 400 years ago, the Tories and Brexit would be done.....over,,,,,finished.
They beat the British Army and the Protestant paras, helped by the British Army and the RUC........the RUC who aren't even Royal anymore......but we didn't win
That's what Cromwell thought......and Churchill and a host of other political heavyweights......Thatcher pooped her pants after Brighton and it was all downhill and knuckledragger tactics thereafter.....sledgehammer to crack the nut but you lot kept missing the nut until the Americans stepped in and saved you from yourselves.
British Army collusion with the UDA/UVF is now a fact of record BTW.......so if there is a next time, expect Blue Helmets on the ground......because British government attempts at genocide in Ireland are now well documented....and the EU will have the UN in like flynn.'"
u ok hun?
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| Quote ="Call Me God"The term "Paddy" is an ethnic slur, or a ethnophaulism if you like....but either way, it shows that you are a narrow minded bigot stuck in the 1970's when racism was considered OK......calling me a Paddy is as racist as using the N word......but because I'm white, you do't get it......'"
It's racist if you're a snowflake DESPERATE to claim outrage. <jazz hands>
Quote As for the canon fodder remark........Britain used to control Ireland, we took up arms, Britain no longer controls Ireland.......paint it as white as you want you racist bigot, you lost and you'll lose again. Your response to a handful of misled Muslim idiots blowing themselves up was Brexit.......you've really lost the plot and now you're scrambling for a semblance of relevancy in a world that no longer considers Britain the Centre of anything other than farcical politics and whining like little girls....you were led up the garden path and you and your ilk, racist northerners blaming Muslims on TV, white Van man bitching about immigrants, Cab drivers moaning about UBER, Rupert Murdoch disciple, UKIP knucklehead....you've all buggered the generations to come with your narrow minded racist mantra.....and the people really responsible will continue to sell arms to Arabs whilst blaming Arabs and you'll cheer-lead them, because you're too stupid to have your own opinion...because you're a racist, painted into a corner and unable to do anything other than close your eyes and call me Paddy.'"
I'VE lost the plot?
I've explained my reasons for voting leave more times than I care to recall. An angry snowflake Paddy living on the other side of the world clearly can't understand, or prefers to ignore the reality of life in the UK in favour of rants.
BTW, seeing as for some bizarre reason you've dragged Muslims into a Brexit thread, I should probably mansplain something to you: most Muslim immigrants don't hail from the EU, unless of course they've crossed into the EU and made their way to the UK, often illegally. You're welcome.
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| =#FF0000That's enough!
Start another thread if you wish but if it descends into more of the same insults, name calling and condescending stuff, that will get locked too.
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