Yes, that's how the Common External Tariff works in the absence of single market membership. Non-preferential countries trading with the EU currently face a 10% tariff on car exports. The EU do it with plenty of other countries and this is our default position until a trade agreement is set up, once we leave the single market. From this point, a trade agreement takes years, with each EU member (and even some regions) having a veto over it. The EU Canada free trade agreement commenced negotiations in 2009 and has only been signed in the last few months, having narrowly avoided a veto by the regional government of Wallonia.

Quote Cronus="Cronus"This has been widely known for months. There are certain financial obligations up to 2020 I think, partly due to the EU spending well above its budget. I'd be amazed if we paid anywhere near £65bn. I've heard figures of around the £25bn mark, though I'm prepared to be ">corrected.'" I know its been mentioned for a little while but, it certainly never made the press before, during or after the campaign. Using the modern analogy, usually favoured by Labour, it would certainly pay for a few schools and hospitals or care for the elderly.

Quote Cronus="Cronus"This has been widely known for months. There are certain financial obligations up to 2020 I think, partly due to the EU spending well above its budget. I'd be amazed if we paid anywhere near £65bn. I've heard figures of around the £25bn mark, though I'm prepared to be ">corrected.'" I know its been mentioned for a little while but, it certainly never made the press before, during or after the campaign. Using the modern analogy, usually favoured by Labour, it would certainly pay for a few schools and hospitals or care for the elderly.

Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"it would certainly pay for a few schools and hospitals or care for the ">elderly.'" Who cares about that - the NHS is in rude health, and once all the nasty immigrants are kicked out of the waiting rooms, Dr's and nurses will be sitting around twiddling their thumbs; or at least the ones who weren't immigrants will be.

Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"it would certainly pay for a few schools and hospitals or care for the ">elderly.'" Who cares about that - the NHS is in rude health, and once all the nasty immigrants are kicked out of the waiting rooms, Dr's and nurses will be sitting around twiddling their thumbs; or at least the ones who weren't immigrants will be.

The folly in letting French and German energy companies buy half of our suppliers is now apparent post the Brexit vote.

nPower is to raise gas prices by 5% and electricity by a whopping 15%



And rather than the rest sticking together and shafting the greedy s , they will follow suit and shaft US!



Also, if I am correct, we are connected to the French grid. At periods like breakfast and tea time we are importing electricity from France.



What kind of dumb-ass thinking got us here?



If Brexit doesn't result in a change of tack, then I will be staggered.



Keep the coal-fired stations going now.

Quote Stand-Offish="Stand-Offish"The folly in letting French and German energy companies buy half of our suppliers is now apparent post the Brexit vote. nPower is to raise gas prices by 5% and electricity by a whopping 15% And rather than the rest sticking together and shafting the greedy lovers , they will follow suit and shaft US! Also, if I am correct, we are connected to the French grid. At periods like breakfast and tea time we are importing electricity from France. What kind of dumb-ass thinking got us here? If Brexit doesn't result in a change of tack, then I will be ">staggered.'" How will Brexit make any difference ? The deals with EDF, to build new Nuclear Power Stations have already been signed (prior to the referendum) and we have effectively agreed to I think a 30% increase by 2020 ?. Unless you think that Brexit will change this, which it wont, you should expect your energy costs to rise steadily until 2020 and probably beyond. If we were still digging coal from the ground we may still have some control but, instead, we have put our energy supplies in French hands, oh yeah and then fallen out with them a046.gif" alt="a046.gif" title="IDEA" /> All good stuff. At least we will have "control" icon_redface.gif" alt="icon_surprised.gifops:" title="Embarassed" />

Quote Stand-Offish="Stand-Offish"The folly in letting French and German energy companies buy half of our suppliers is now apparent post the Brexit vote. nPower is to raise gas prices by 5% and electricity by a whopping 15% And rather than the rest sticking together and shafting the greedy lovers , they will follow suit and shaft US! Also, if I am correct, we are connected to the French grid. At periods like breakfast and tea time we are importing electricity from France. What kind of dumb-ass thinking got us here? If Brexit doesn't result in a change of tack, then I will be ">staggered.'" How will Brexit make any difference ? The deals with EDF, to build new Nuclear Power Stations have already been signed (prior to the referendum) and we have effectively agreed to I think a 30% increase by 2020 ?. Unless you think that Brexit will change this, which it wont, you should expect your energy costs to rise steadily until 2020 and probably beyond. If we were still digging coal from the ground we may still have some control but, instead, we have put our energy supplies in French hands, oh yeah and then fallen out with them a046.gif" alt="a046.gif" title="IDEA" /> All good stuff. At least we will have "control" icon_redface.gif" alt="icon_surprised.gifops:" title="Embarassed" />

Please use the thread 'Brexit Anyone? (2)' as we are well past the 1000-post limit ... the most recent posts are there. Thank you.

Please use the thread 'Brexit Anyone? (2)' as we are well past the 1000-post limit ... the most recent posts are there. Thank you.