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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 4:19 pm 
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BOSS HOG wrote:The fact that you didn`t name the current CEO of the RFL and called him: "The Head Of The RFL", says it all.....scarcely anyone outside the City of Hull knows who he is!

Maybe some Hull FC fans don`t know either?


Presume you're meaning Tony Sutton (of Hull)? The article suggests it's the RFL chair, Simon Johnson, who they are looking to replace.

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https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ey-9935799

A little bit more about Staveley from Cartwright. Hardly an exclusive insight, just more of a statement of the matter being closed seemingly. Not sure we'll find out much more from the clubs side.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ey-9935799

A little bit more about Staveley from Cartwright. Hardly an exclusive insight, just more of a statement of the matter being closed seemingly. Not sure we'll find out much more from the clubs side.

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UllFC wrote:Cartwright suggesting in Hull Live that he only was involved in signing Cust, Rapana and Sezer which isn't a surprise. If some of the others don't perform he may be saying to Andrew 'speak to your son in law' then...


To be fair you could easily flip it the other way. All our overseas signings have a previous connection to Cartwright it was obvious he’s picked the quota players. All due respect to Sezer and Cust, I don’t think they’d have been the club or Mylers ideal choice of a halfback pairing, and you could argue that a specialist centre would have been preferable to Rapana but the strategy has been players Cartwright knows well and trusts and the club have gone with that. If the quota players don’t perform for whatever reason it will be on him.

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Faithful One wrote:https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/hull-fc-react-nick-staveley-9935799

A little bit more about Staveley from Cartwright. Hardly an exclusive insight, just more of a statement of the matter being closed seemingly. Not sure we'll find out much more from the clubs side.


Reading that it sounds as though he’d already made his mind up he wouldn’t be signing a new deal and get the impression Cartwright has some reservations about Staveleys application/attitude with his efforts on his recovery.

It’s pleasing to see that despite us being a little short in that area the principles of what is expected, what the Coach demands from every player in attitude & effort be it in a game, training or injury recovery are none negotiable.

It’s been a long time coming that we have a Coach instills discipline across all aspects of being a Pro RL players amd having the financial clout to back his decisions.






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Chris71 wrote:Reading that it sounds as though he’d already made his mind up he wouldn’t be signing a new deal and get the impression Cartwright has some reservations about Staveleys application/attitude with his efforts on his recovery.

He says that there are a few guys in front of him obviously Cartwright, Lane and Holmes will be but I wonder if Jebson and especially Kirby will have moved up the pecking order. Get the feeling Kirby is higher rated than Jebson given Kirby played at the weekend and Jebson didn't.

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Yippee try yay wrote:He says that there are a few guys in front of him obviously Cartwright, Lane and Holmes will be but I wonder if Jebson and especially Kirby will have moved up the pecking order. Get the feeling Kirby is higher rated than Jebson given Kirby played at the weekend and Jebson didn't.


I got told they are backing Kirby

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UllFC wrote:Just read an article saying some club owners are plotting to overthrow the head of the RFL and install Nigel Wood in temporary charge, is it April 1st??!!

This game loves machine gunning it's foot


Wouldn't be a super league season launch without a scandal/idiotic idea getting the press' attention rather than the focus being on the build up to the opening round of games

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Probably Degsy been a bit mischievous , Adding to his call to ditch Sky rant last week .

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Chris71 wrote:Reading that it sounds as though he’d already made his mind up he wouldn’t be signing a new deal and get the impression Cartwright has some reservations about Staveleys application/attitude with his efforts on his recovery.

It’s pleasing to see that despite us being a little short in that area the principles of what is expected, what the Coach demands from every player in attitude & effort be it in a game, training or injury recovery are none negotiable.

Quote:It’s been a long time coming that we have a Coach instills discipline across all aspects of being a Pro RL players amd having the financial clout to back his decisions
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It goes without saying that, by and large, we, as fans, don't get to see what goes on exactly behind the scenes on a daily basis, save the usual 'I've heard this, that, the other' rumours that always seem to surround our club!!
Staveley seemed to be a decent prospect before his ACL last season, but none of us on here are fully aware of the background story leading to his release. I'm disappointed to see a potentially promising youngster depart, and hope it doesn't backfire on us further down the track, but that is the nature of elite sport, it's a cut throat business at the sharp end.

We are, hopefully, at the start of a new beginning for the club and Cartwright/Myler have been entrusted with turning the (listing) ship away from the looming iceberg. The clubs that get these kind of decisions right (Walker, Abdull, Staveley) are the ones who ultimately succeed. The ability to know who to release, and more importantly when exactly, is one of the key tenets for any successful outfit. Wigan & Saints have been masters of this aspect down the years (accompanied by equally intelligent recruitment for replacements) hence their position as the dominant forces within the sport.

As you say Chris, it has been a long time since we had a coach prepared to make these unsentimental clinical decisions. It's on his head, acts like this, but that is why he has been appointed as our head coach. I'm sure this has been made with all the facts to hand and Cartwright has reached this conclusion to the best of his experienced ability. As supporters we must back them to take these decisions and hope/trust that they will show to be the correct decisions in the years to come. Last year we were little more than a (very) badly run amateur outfit, if decisions of this nature are the price we have to pay in order to once again be a serious professional organization, then so be it.






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With Abdul and now Staveley gone , This should give us a bit more room to sign a potentially better caliber of player should one becomes available .
If we cant get Holmes on the pitch regularly ( And I hope we can ) , Do the club cut their losses again ? .

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