Joined: Jan 22 2018 Posts: 2850 Location: Tomorrowland
BackSeatCoach wrote:I think a few of you are trying to justify the move, which is fine if it makes you feel better, but I can't help feeling that if Carter had done this deal some of you justifiers would be in the very least slightly perturbed. Maybe I'm wrong. Don't get me wrong, lets maintain the positivity, but lets not think that Mills and Powell's poop don't stink. I think Booth had an X factor and we know little about the new bloke. If he turns out to be Dom Young in 2 years (if we still have him) then you are welcome to re-birth this message.
Don't really see what Carter has to do with it to be honest, past is in the past, not sure why we keep going back to it.
For me if Ellis didn't think something was right for the club, he wouldn't do it, we are assuming this has been instigated by KR, yet we don't know that.
Two very highly rated young players, wouldn't be a disaster if it happened IMO, how many of us have seen this lad play? Again, I'm trusting the judgement of the coaches we have at the club because they haven't yet given me a reason not to.
Joined: Oct 04 2008 Posts: 21312 Location: wakefield
BackSeatCoach wrote:I think a few of you are trying to justify the move, which is fine if it makes you feel better, but I can't help feeling that if Carter had done this deal some of you justifiers would be in the very least slightly perturbed. Maybe I'm wrong. Don't get me wrong, lets maintain the positivity, but lets not think that Mills and Powell's poop don't stink. I think Booth had an X factor and we know little about the new bloke. If he turns out to be Dom Young in 2 years (if we still have him) then you are welcome to re-birth this message.
The point being, those that think it's OK, clearly don't think he has the X Factor that you see. I liked him and I think he has potential, but he was not getting anywhere near first team this year without some major injuries. If there was a possibility of him going to Rovers next year anyway it seems like good business.
A dog is not considered a good dog because he is a good barker. A man is not considered a good man because he is a good talker - Buddha
I can see a logic behind this and so far been very impressed with our signing strategy over last 18 months, I suspect that he wasn’t going to get any first team rugby this season and probably very little following year. So perhaps he wanted away as his contract expires at end of season he could have left any way. We have 2 top young centres in Scott and Pratt , a very experienced full back in jowit , with Rourke hall and Croft as back up. On the wings we are a bit thin especially as Russel is coming to end of his career. Is the kid from hull kr a great prospect - no idea as I’ve never seen him play I suspect mills Powell etc have seen a fair bit of him so I’ll cede to their knowledge
Kirmudgeonlyisback wrote:I can see a logic behind this and so far been very impressed with our signing strategy over last 18 months, I suspect that he wasn’t going to get any first team rugby this season and probably very little following year. So perhaps he wanted away as his contract expires at end of season he could have left any way. We have 2 top young centres in Scott and Pratt , a very experienced full back in jowit , with Rourke hall and Croft as back up. On the wings we are a bit thin especially as Russel is coming to end of his career. Is the kid from hull kr a great prospect - no idea as I’ve never seen him play I suspect mills Powell etc have seen a fair bit of him so I’ll cede to their knowledge
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Exactly and you can add Myers as another centre option too. Roarke also. We still have 6 options.
Even wing we have TJ, Walmsley, Russell and Delaney. Though with this signing I’m not sure where that leaves Delaney who has been in first team a few years but hasn’t appeared to break through.
As for Booth, him signing for Trinity has improved him as a player no doubt. He has potential to be a good quality full back, centre or utility man. Not sure about the x-factor as I think it’s going too far at the moment but he has pace and certainly potential. I completely get that if he’s leaving in 2026 and we have an option of bringing in another young lad with potential it’s not necessarily a bad move.
PopTart wrote:I don't see why this is being criticised yet. It's a swap deal so it matters how good the other kid is and he's meant to be good.
But not good enough for HKR it seems, I don’t like the look of this deal, we know how good Boothe is, he looked like a class outside back in the making and if we wanted to stop HKR taking him at the end of the season we should offer the lad a better deal.
Joined: Feb 11 2011 Posts: 2214 Location: Wakefield
If this comes off not only does Powell rate Neil, but also feels we need to strengthen the wing area. We haven’t seen Johnstone or Russell as of yet. I really like Walmsley but he is unproven at SL level. Rourke did great the other week on the wing but he’s a FB.
Pat Bateman wrote:If this comes off not only does Powell rate Neil, but also feels we need to strengthen the wing area. We haven’t seen Johnstone or Russell as of yet. I really like Walmsley but he is unproven at SL level. Rourke did great the other week on the wing but he’s a FB.
Current wing options are :
Johnstone Walmsley Russell Roarke Delaney Croft (can play wing and has done) Pratt (will likely play centre but went well there Boxing Day)
Croft looks to have bulked a bit now so may be more a second row/centre option.
Russell is only here one year and Delaney I’m not sure where his future lays so it makes sense somewhat.
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