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 Post subject: Re: Salford Supermarket Sweep
PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:22 pm 
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That's more like it - that's a real beaut of a mugshot.

If we had a couple of forwards like you Bumper then silverware would be ours for the taking.

Excellent effort






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 Post subject: Re: Salford Supermarket Sweep
PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:25 pm 
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On a completely different matter could I humbly suggest that Leigh twin themselves with the Newtown Jets.

If anyone here has not read the history of that club then I recommend a quick google and Wiki read - enjoy.






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 Post subject: Re: Salford Supermarket Sweep
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:12 pm 
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Leigh appear to be in the driving seat to sign Sneyd. Location believed to be major driving force.

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/hu ... e-provided
Leigh appear to be in the driving seat to sign Sneyd. Location believed to be major driving force.

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/hu ... e-provided

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 Post subject: Re: Salford Supermarket Sweep
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:14 pm 
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It is getting close to the launch of the 2025 Super League season and there is a lot of introspection about facets of the game. Eddie Hearn believes the game is dying, Matty Peet believes that the salary cap needs to be re-examined. https://www.totalrl.com/wigan-warriors- ... alary-cap/ Salford are staring down the barrel, with a need to balance books and avoid slipping out of the Super League on performance based on IMG ratings.
These issues are not unrelated, and the salary cap has remained static at £2.1M for several seasons. Successful teams like St Helens recorded financial losses of over £1.3M for 2023 with the forecast expected to get worse in the immediate future. On average every team is losing in the region of £1M a year, so why would Matty Peet advocate increasing the cap? The answer is simple he does not pay the discrepancy in income and expenditure. Mike Danson the current owner of Wigan Warriors is a billionaire, currently willing to absorb the costs.

Salford are at the other end of the spectrum, running a team that finished fourth in the league, with a total player salary believed to be £400k below the salary cap. Salford are still making a £500K loss, without any benefactor able to soak up the cost. Community Share issues and player sales have not filled the void of being without an owner with deep pockets. The 2024 season witnessed Castleford reduce the playing budget to £1.4M and Hull FC off-loaded most of the overseas playing contingent. Castleford finished 10th and Hull FC finished 11th on the same points as London. The achievement of Salford finishing 4th is amazing, but in reality it was a team that they cannot afford to run. Interviews with Warrington and St Helens, suggest both clubs are looking at ways to reduce the costs and minimise the losses.

The Super League owners meeting 14th January 2025 decided not to allow any dispensations for the proposed “Fire Sale” at Salford. Up for debate was a one year quota exemption for teams wanting to buy Salford overseas players, and to allow Salary cap to be breached to help Salford. The understanding is that both votes were for the status quo, with many owners wary of any additional costs which they would need to pay for personally.
Eddie Hearn believes that the sport has no Superstars in the UK game, Bevan French, Jack Welsby and Mickey Lewis are not nationally known because Rugby League is not regularly covered in the national press. The media landscape of 2025 is different to the start of this century, news is available if you are prepared to look, otherwise it will pass you by. Of the three RL sites I use regularly Total Rugby League and it’s association with League Express is the most professional, but content is limited. Love Rugby League tries to provide regular articles with some journalistic ability. Serious About Rugby League is clickbait, with infrequent journalistic content. Compared to other sports this is totally inadequate.
In terms of fanbase Super League sits below League 1 Football, where average attendances sit around the 10K mark. Castleford and Leigh are just below this figure, but Salford, Wakefield and Huddersfield are closer to 5K. If Super League clubs can get 10K through the turnstiles, then there will be a need to look at the stadia being used. Hull KR with only 3 stands may need to expand to cope with demand, and currently they are restricting visiting fans to below the recommended 10% which in my opinion is not good or fair to the visiting teams.

The SKY tv deal is on a downward trajectory, but as a bonus to fans all games are now available to watch via the SKY Sports+ app. Worries about attendances at games, appears to be unfounded, with only a slight dip of 7K recorded mostly due to Wakefield and London trading places. Leigh, Hull KR and Castleford witnessed an upsurge along with Wigan and Leeds. Many people are concerned with the lack of visibility of IMG when it comes to promoting Super League. When original deal was brokered, it was hoped they could negotiate a better TV deal. A bigger deal, means more money for the Super League clubs and a more sustainable sport. RFL commercial needs to learn to monetise the vast array of streaming services, ideally finding a TV partner for the Championship to be televised on a Monday night, now that SKY’s coverage for the 2025 season will stretch from Thursday through to Sunday. Reduced number of matches clashing particularly on a Friday will be down to only two games. This should increase viewing figures. Sky Sports should also make all games available for streaming for up to a month.

Rugby League is flourishing in Australia and the surrounding territories. The growth of the NRL suggests that the product is not the issue, and that Super League needs to managed better. Will Las Vegas Rugby League fest, be the saviour and break the game in the United States or is it just a publicity stunt? Only time will tell, but with the NRL pushing the event it stands a better chance than anything RFL commercial can manage.
It is getting close to the launch of the 2025 Super League season and there is a lot of introspection about facets of the game. Eddie Hearn believes the game is dying, Matty Peet believes that the salary cap needs to be re-examined. https://www.totalrl.com/wigan-warriors- ... alary-cap/ Salford are staring down the barrel, with a need to balance books and avoid slipping out of the Super League on performance based on IMG ratings.
These issues are not unrelated, and the salary cap has remained static at £2.1M for several seasons. Successful teams like St Helens recorded financial losses of over £1.3M for 2023 with the forecast expected to get worse in the immediate future. On average every team is losing in the region of £1M a year, so why would Matty Peet advocate increasing the cap? The answer is simple he does not pay the discrepancy in income and expenditure. Mike Danson the current owner of Wigan Warriors is a billionaire, currently willing to absorb the costs.

Salford are at the other end of the spectrum, running a team that finished fourth in the league, with a total player salary believed to be £400k below the salary cap. Salford are still making a £500K loss, without any benefactor able to soak up the cost. Community Share issues and player sales have not filled the void of being without an owner with deep pockets. The 2024 season witnessed Castleford reduce the playing budget to £1.4M and Hull FC off-loaded most of the overseas playing contingent. Castleford finished 10th and Hull FC finished 11th on the same points as London. The achievement of Salford finishing 4th is amazing, but in reality it was a team that they cannot afford to run. Interviews with Warrington and St Helens, suggest both clubs are looking at ways to reduce the costs and minimise the losses.

The Super League owners meeting 14th January 2025 decided not to allow any dispensations for the proposed “Fire Sale” at Salford. Up for debate was a one year quota exemption for teams wanting to buy Salford overseas players, and to allow Salary cap to be breached to help Salford. The understanding is that both votes were for the status quo, with many owners wary of any additional costs which they would need to pay for personally.
Eddie Hearn believes that the sport has no Superstars in the UK game, Bevan French, Jack Welsby and Mickey Lewis are not nationally known because Rugby League is not regularly covered in the national press. The media landscape of 2025 is different to the start of this century, news is available if you are prepared to look, otherwise it will pass you by. Of the three RL sites I use regularly Total Rugby League and it’s association with League Express is the most professional, but content is limited. Love Rugby League tries to provide regular articles with some journalistic ability. Serious About Rugby League is clickbait, with infrequent journalistic content. Compared to other sports this is totally inadequate.
In terms of fanbase Super League sits below League 1 Football, where average attendances sit around the 10K mark. Castleford and Leigh are just below this figure, but Salford, Wakefield and Huddersfield are closer to 5K. If Super League clubs can get 10K through the turnstiles, then there will be a need to look at the stadia being used. Hull KR with only 3 stands may need to expand to cope with demand, and currently they are restricting visiting fans to below the recommended 10% which in my opinion is not good or fair to the visiting teams.

The SKY tv deal is on a downward trajectory, but as a bonus to fans all games are now available to watch via the SKY Sports+ app. Worries about attendances at games, appears to be unfounded, with only a slight dip of 7K recorded mostly due to Wakefield and London trading places. Leigh, Hull KR and Castleford witnessed an upsurge along with Wigan and Leeds. Many people are concerned with the lack of visibility of IMG when it comes to promoting Super League. When original deal was brokered, it was hoped they could negotiate a better TV deal. A bigger deal, means more money for the Super League clubs and a more sustainable sport. RFL commercial needs to learn to monetise the vast array of streaming services, ideally finding a TV partner for the Championship to be televised on a Monday night, now that SKY’s coverage for the 2025 season will stretch from Thursday through to Sunday. Reduced number of matches clashing particularly on a Friday will be down to only two games. This should increase viewing figures. Sky Sports should also make all games available for streaming for up to a month.

Rugby League is flourishing in Australia and the surrounding territories. The growth of the NRL suggests that the product is not the issue, and that Super League needs to managed better. Will Las Vegas Rugby League fest, be the saviour and break the game in the United States or is it just a publicity stunt? Only time will tell, but with the NRL pushing the event it stands a better chance than anything RFL commercial can manage.

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 Post subject: Re: Salford Supermarket Sweep
PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2025 8:37 pm 
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A very thorough and fair summary of the game as it stands.I maintain it was farcical to expect skint owners to bail Salford out.The buzzards were hovering looking for bargains.I am not sure on the atest fine details are preferred bidders negotiating with the rfl or Saford .Who decides wheer players go rfl or salford.
rfl is also skint they have arranged ashes series but that yield wont go far.
Will a struggling sky reduce our payment next time round Can we find other partners
Perhaps the muted takeover by the nrl is the way forward as they have the appropiate negotiating/marketing skills
The pie master wants a bigger slice seems the only way will be fewer teams at the top level Wilkin says 8 teams thats not from his own deductions is he pushing someones agenda

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 Post subject: Re: Salford Supermarket Sweep
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:35 am 
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satanicmills wrote:.....Who decides wheer players go rfl or salford.....


...or the players themselves? Surely it should be the last. Outside forces may try to sway them but ultimately they will choose for themselves after weighing up all options. That could, for players with long, generous contracts, persuade them to thumb their nose bloody-mindedly to all parties - though that might be unwise given Salford's reported plight!

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 Post subject: Re: Salford Supermarket Sweep
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:41 am 
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Players will leave, if they don't then Salford folds and their contracts are void.






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 Post subject: Re: Salford Supermarket Sweep
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:38 am 
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There would have to be something very wrong with UK employment law, if you could make a player move to Hull.

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 Post subject: Re: Salford Supermarket Sweep
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:46 am 
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There appears to be something very deluded about Salford and their fans. They spent money that was tentatively offered but never received, the electronic advertising hoarding was going to make them rich, and a white knight was going to ride over the hill. Last night the club announced the sale was on, and the fans are still clinging to a deal being brokered before the sale starts in earnest.

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 Post subject: Re: Salford Supermarket Sweep
PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:14 pm 
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Septimius Severus wrote:There would have to be something very wrong with UK employment law, if you could make a player move to Hull.



both your points are applicable.i was only commenting on what i had seen in print prior to the vote maybe we do not have all the facts

does the vote point players in certain directions.i note wakies ex owner was one of a contingent who went to look into salford in what capacity is unknown.wakey have now let a player go back to oz

woud be plenty of snowy knihts in salford perhaps they could open more pizza shops and barbers to be major investors

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