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PopTart wrote:Bowden was a loss for me but Powell decided that was the right thing to do.
I guess we have to give Shaw game time if he is to develop so we should tryst that he can. To a certain extent Bain is the same.
Vagana would be fine but I'd rather let him develop at SR.
Cozza is a 13 for me. No more a prop than Pitts.
Pitts started his SL career with us as a prop so he has the knowledge. However I agree he’s not a prop anymore, he’s actually a perfect example of the arms race where player size is concerned. In the late 2000s he was adequate, now he’s just not big enough imho.
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Droopy wrote:[youtube][/youtube]My point exactly, other than McMeeken, our other starting props are either unproven at SL or have a point to prove. It does worry me. I was disappointed when Bowden signed elsewhere because whilst he isn’t a world beater, he is robust and experienced enough to be a key part of the team.
You then look at if one of our first 4 props is injured who steps up? Bain and Vangana are both inexperienced and probably a little lightweight. Storton, probably would be my preference to step up but isn’t a natural prop.
So I go back to my previous post, even though it wouldn’t be an exciting or inspiring signing, an experienced and robust SL prop is needed in my opinion.
Doesn’t even need to be SL imho. A fringe player or an ambitious young championship player would do fine for me. So long as the attitude is right and they are robust, that would be fine. Bit like a Rodwell, but a U.K. version, won’t be as good but still decent. Saw a few tough lads last year who’d do ok without ever being first choice.
vastman wrote:Doesn’t even need to be SL imho. A fringe player or an ambitious young championship player would do fine for me. So long as the attitude is right and they are robust, that would be fine. Bit like a Rodwell, but a U.K. version, won’t be as good but still decent. Saw a few tough lads last year who’d do ok without ever being first choice.
vastman wrote:Doesn’t even need to be SL imho. A fringe player or an ambitious young championship player would do fine for me. So long as the attitude is right and they are robust, that would be fine. Bit like a Rodwell, but a U.K. version, won’t be as good but still decent. Saw a few tough lads last year who’d do ok without ever being first choice.
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imwakefieldtillidie wrote:I'd take Singleton, but I think Chris Hill could do a job for 12 months as well.
Agreed.
Still goes very well.
I’d take either in that role as disruptor who can do big minutes if needed who may not look spectacular but does the basics well and is hurtful in defence.
Their experience would also be very useful.
Wigan showed last year how important it is to have quality in depth in the props and it will be more important this year with the concussion/head knock protocols and teams being expected to manage minutes of their players.
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PopTart wrote:If he accepts being here as cover I don't want him. He's a starting prop for a playoff team. He should be aiming to be our best prop
Oh do give it a rest for once. You know exactly what I meant so stop the agent provocateur stuff, I wouldn’t mind if you were any good at it. He comes as back up FACT and he will have to accept that to start with FACT. If he goes onto prove himself worthy and becomes first choice that’s fantastic, I’d love that. What he can’t do is swagger in and think he’s number one based on past achievements and then sulk when he isn’t first on the list. You earn your change or are you claiming otherwise?
vastman wrote:Pitts started his SL career with us as a prop so he has the knowledge. However I agree he’s not a prop anymore, he’s actually a perfect example of the arms race where player size is concerned. In the late 2000s he was adequate, now he’s just not big enough imho.
I’m pretty sure Pitts has never played prop other than a few handful of games to cover. Also I don’t recall him propping in his first few seasons in 2008.
He came through as a 13 and second row but mainly 13 if memory serves. He played more at second row as time moved on but has transitioned back to 13 now again.
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