To be honest I'm not too surprised in regards to the apparent mindsets of some of the younger players (or even some of the more senior) in fact I'd have been more surprised if there wasn't any issue. Let's face it they haven't exactly been immersed in a professional environment or had any real leadership the past 2 or 3 years at least as everything had been so lax and casual. I think this is likely some of what Myler has been alluding too in his interviews. It's likely the new regime to many who were at the club prior to Myler & Cartwrights arrival will have been quite a shock with having expectations laid out to them and to now have full time training, then add in all the other changes be them big ones or minor ones.

What does seem to be clear is that if anyone doesn't meet those expectations as a Pro RL player at the club then they are likely to be staying at the club and that in all honesty is how it should be.

There's no surprise there. the whole club has had this attitude for years. Makes you wonder how many promising youngsters have slipped the net due to the poor environment

This is spot on. BUT, because of the parochial stance of a lot of the owners of clubs that don't invest in youth and academies, it's not given high priority.

First point is an interesting one as I imagine a HullFC starting salary is actually decent given that wages generally are very low in the city. So add in the kudos of as you say 'walking around with the club gear on' and it becomes a lazy career choice (albeit a short term one that could end when the contract ends)

I've not seen anything from Gardiner or Jebson to suggest they are worth sticking with, usually with a young player with a few games you see if they are up to it or not.

Heard similar about some of the youngsters. One in particular who made his debut last season already thinking he's a superstar and not endearing himself to some members of the squad.

There's been an element of this with our young players for a number of years, possibly even decades!
We're actually reasonably decent in producing youngsters who end up in the first-team via our youth/academy/development set-ups, youngsters who initially look promising with everyone having high hopes for them.
The problem for us, and this is where we differ from Wigan/Saints/Leeds, is that all too often they never seem to quite kick-on to become genuine SL quality standard players and after a while they seem to lose their way and end up gradually drifting out of the picture. We have a number of young players going back many years who seem to fall into that category.

The key age for young promising sports people is around 18-22, which is the age when you have to make the full transition from junior sport to full-time professional. I think, in general, there tends to be a very large drop-off in juniors who make the grade across all sports. It's those organizations that get it right more often when dealing with promising 18-22 year-olds that tend to be the more successful within their sport, chiefly Wigan/Saints in RL.

I'd agree with other posters that success in developing any promising 18 year-old is likely to be key if we are to compete at the top end again on a regular consistent basis. The likes of Moy, Charles, Barron and, particularly, Lewis Martin look like they may possibly be the real deal, but the next two years are vital in their development if they are to become stand-out fully fledged SL players.
Fingers crossed, with the new regime and far more professional coaching set-up now in place, these young kids will come through, but it's far from a given as we have witnessed too many times in the past. Here's hoping for at least a couple of wins for us in this department in the coming two years or so.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/clubs-prepare-salford-red-devils-9764574 Interesting read about the Salford situation once more. For all the criticism we've given/gotten in recent years, we could have ended up in this position of uncertainty that Salford find themselves in had we not taken the approach that we did.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/clubs-prepare-salford-red-devils-9764574 Interesting read about the Salford situation once more. For all the criticism we've given/gotten in recent years, we could have ended up in this position of uncertainty that Salford find themselves in had we not taken the approach that we did.

Players I would be looking at, I’ve tried to be somewhat realistic with who might come:

Chris Satae - non quota, would add impact off the bench. At his age and his love for Hull should be good value for a year.

Matthieu Laguerre - Rogue but probably a step up on chamberlain and still a good age.

Arthur Mourgue - Mourgue & Abdul/Jack Charles would probably suit going forward. Some question marks over his best position. Don’t think he will leave cats

Paul Séguier - would be a steady squad player who can play back or front row. I’d argue he’s better than Holmes & Lane.

Mikołaj Oledzki - think he’s carried Leeds pack and a fresh start would do him wonders. Would be a good partner for Herman.

Liam Byrne - Herman & Oldedzki with Byrne & Ashworth off the bench would have fantastic balance.

Connor Wrench - young, pace and probably better than all our centre options.

Looking at the domestic players Salford have and the areas we are looking to bolster i'd take Watkins and Bullock.

Some young kids with FC bloodlines signed up

"Bobby Hewitt, son of former Hull FC half-back Mark Hewitt, Cameron Windley, son of former Hull FC back Johan Windley, and Isaac and Jacob Last, the twins of former Hull FC hooker and current assistant coach Andy Last."

We also have Richard Horne's son and Feka's son.