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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:51 pm 
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hull2524 wrote:Last few years have been s.hite all round from the bottom up. Personally think there will be a few announcements over the coming weeks/ months . It does feel to me like a full restart for the club. Think it will be small steps and I don't think we will be in the top 6 next year. But expect us to be more competitive all round. Maybe get lucky in the CC and get a decent run. It's the hope that kills you


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 Post subject: Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 2:55 pm 
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bonaire wrote:Its not just a squad of poor average players,its an ageing squad with several injury prone players and even the best backroom conditioning and physios wont be able to prevent them spending too much time sitting in the stands nursing injuries.
Can see this team being competitve for early season matches but not picking up many wins then falling off a cliff.


Not like you to be negative :wink:






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 Post subject: Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:25 pm 
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RockNRolla wrote:Not like you to be negative :wink:


The best examples of injury prone players are Cator, Scott, Truman, Sutcliffe and Carlos?

All of whom have left and been replaced by players who, more often than not, are available for selection!

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 Post subject: Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 3:27 pm 
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Roam Ranger wrote:That was something I was going to mention as well in my earlier post regarding things creating the toxicity, anger, hate etc and you and Chris71 have mentioned it: false promises. I don't know if we were at full cap or not and to be honest I'm not sure whether I find it more palatable that our owner lied to us or whether it would be better to believe that we so badly misspent the cap.

But whilst something like that is debatable, the bullish promises about being competitive and then serving up what we did just aren't up for debate. That's something he has been guilty of for a number of years. Fair enough, he's got pass sales to think of as you say and even generating enough interest for pay at the gate supporters to attend. But I think to repeatedly make such statements and then failing to deliver has added to the toxicity that is around.


The bit I've highlighted in bold you'd have to think its probably a bit of both. Looking at the squad build by Smith for 2024 can't seriously have been at full cap level, but if it genuinely has then the Cap Management has been scandalous. I'd think most likely we were operating below cap but maybe not by a lot all of which is an indication of why we were so poor and players on deals getting moved by Myler after his arrival.

AP had either been too trusting and handed over far too much control to Clark & Smith, taken his eye off the ball or just simply been dishonest or hiding the facts from the fans. I'd like to think and hope that it hasn't been the latter.

All I know is that there haven't just been a few changes taking place but almost a total root and branch overhaul of the club both on and off the field so surely the only way to go now from here on in is upwards.






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 Post subject: Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:13 pm 
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bonaire wrote:Its not just a squad of poor average players,its an ageing squad with several injury prone players and even the best backroom conditioning and physios wont be able to prevent them spending too much time sitting in the stands nursing injuries.
Can see this team being competitve for early season matches but not picking up many wins then falling off a cliff.


Well at least YOU willl have something to celebrate.






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 Post subject: Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:40 pm 
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Cas and Wakey confirmed as Grade A clubs.

What a sport.

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 Post subject: Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 4:47 pm 
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HU8HFC wrote:Cas and Wakey confirmed as Grade A clubs.

What a sport.


Just becomes a bigger joke of a sport than it is and the IMG part less value if a club that finished one place above us yet has a poor ground that needs a massive refurb and a team promoted from the Championship can outscore any existing SL club on the grading.






I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!

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 Post subject: Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:00 pm 
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Chris71 wrote:Just becomes a bigger joke of a sport than it is and the IMG part less value if a club that finished one place above us yet has a poor ground that needs a massive refurb and a team promoted from the Championship can outscore any existing SL club on the grading.


Just shows the criteria is awful, get punished for having a good stadium, Goole get better catchment area points, penalised for two clubs in the city….the list goes on. Shambles.

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 Post subject: Re: DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:27 pm 
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Academy sides don’t come into the grading as it’s all based on Marketing KPI’s.

So don’t bother running an Academy (and therefore provide players for the future of the game), just get some LED advertising boards.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2024 5:31 pm 
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RockNRolla wrote:Not like you to be negative :wink:


keep dreaming
Cant believe anyone really believes this squad put together by Myler will provide entertainment or excitement for supporters.

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