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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:42 pm 
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We should have had the game tied up by half time ut yet again, lots of effort and no class. I agree with the poster who said we need an attacking coach as currently our attack is woeful.

2nd half we slipped I to old ways with I'll discipline

Forwards are a real worry again for next season. Middles of Sao, herman, Aydin and ashworth really not good enough especially once we get into the back up to those.

Herman his usual tower of strength, Cartwright good and the 2 wingers went OK. Moy, I just don't see it and think he'll end up 8n the championship.

Keep looked good for his first game, particularly first half. Looks a lot bigger than charles and better suited to superleague at this stage so no idea why we havent seen him play before.

Anyway, thank god its all over






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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:55 pm 
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Jake the Peg wrote:We should have had the game tied up by half time ut yet again, lots of effort and no class. I agree with the poster who said we need an attacking coach as currently our attack is woeful.

2nd half we slipped I to old ways with I'll discipline

Forwards are a real worry again for next season. Middles of Sao, herman, Aydin and ashworth really not good enough especially once we get into the back up to those.

Herman his usual tower of strength, Cartwright good and the 2 wingers went OK. Moy, I just don't see it and think he'll end up 8n the championship.

Keep looked good for his first game, particularly first half. Looks a lot bigger than charles and better suited to superleague at this stage so no idea why we havent seen him play before.

Anyway, thank god its all over


I was surprised when I saw Kemp. Physically he's fully developed and he's only just turned 18. He looks a good prospect.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:24 pm 
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Charles was in the supporters bar before the game and looks really young when you see him up close. Fair play to h8m for standing up to huge forwards but he needs to go out on a seasons loan in the championship to develop.

I thought balmforth was poor today and when Houghton was off the ball out of dummy half nowhere near good enough






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PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 10:43 pm 
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Jake the Peg wrote:Charles was in the supporters bar before the game and looks really young when you see him up close. Fair play to h8m for standing up to huge forwards but he needs to go out on a seasons loan in the championship to develop.

I thought balmforth was poor today and when Houghton was off the ball out of dummy half nowhere near good enough


Poorest I've seen Balmforth today. Fresh start for all of them next year. Cartwright has no loyalty to anybody

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:16 am 
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Cartwright looks like he'll be good for us.

2 young lads on the wings went well too, hopefully they will be seen as our starting wingers next year.

Agree that the pack still needs some work and depth adding to it. Really don't get Will Gardiner, looks so out of place in a SL team.

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Don't want to be too negative about young lads but at present I agree with the above poster about Gardiner. Need to hope a proper strength and conditioning coach can add just a few KGs onto him.
I also just don't see it with Jebson. He's a solid defender but with the ball he just offers nothing and looks far too lightweight to make any impact running the ball in. Only seems to get 10 minutes at the end of a game so I suppose it's not exactly enough time for him to make any type of mark.

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Thought our pack didn't do bad yesterday, main issue was discipline (although we didn't get the rub of the green) and lack of creativity, hopefully both those will be addressed next year.

Add in Sao, Staveley, Holmes, Asiata and hopefully one more then I don't think we are too bad. Agree that Gardiner looks way out of depth, makes little metres, misses too many tackles and gives away too may penalties, stands out that he is not good enough, Grix sees something in him, but I'd rather play Laidlaw or Jebson (who got little minutes again).

Still think we have issues with the backs doing too much worth, Martin, Barron and Moy took nearly 60 hit ups, while the rest apart from Ese Ese do very little.

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pmarrow wrote:You can blame the coach for alot but when your half backs cant count to 5 your in trouble.

I have occasionally thought we have not been well coached but Smith getting caught on the 5th when he should have kicked, offsides, 6 agains is that just player responsibility? That said I think Smith is coachable to improve. Thought Moy, the wingers and Cartwright will be great for next season. Liked Kemp, Ashworths aggression and of course Eseese. Need a good spine so badly.Think things will be a lot better and fans will be back next season I’m sure but won’t win much for a while

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Hasbag wrote:Don't want to be too negative about young lads but at present I agree with the above poster about Gardiner. Need to hope a proper strength and conditioning coach can add just a few KGs onto him.
I also just don't see it with Jebson. He's a solid defender but with the ball he just offers nothing and looks far too lightweight to make any impact running the ball in. Only seems to get 10 minutes at the end of a game so I suppose it's not exactly enough time for him to make any type of mark.


you can add Laidlaw to those two
all destined for lower divisions
The strategy of relying on youth to take over in two years is a fallacy
The only two who look like making it are Barron and Martin
Moy is too small and lightweight to make a full back.Be better to give him a try at halfback or nine.
Lots of hype for Charles but given his run of games i didnt see any progression in his play which was disappointing.Think next season will determine whether he kicks on.

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Two good young players a year is about the most even the clubs with great youth systems acheive. Not every player develops and makes it.

The problem with keeping older squad players like Gardner and Mitch (if he had been fit) is they block opportunities for the next set of youngsters and all these contracts add up on the salary cap.

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