FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home Hull FC Staying down after head contact



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Staying down after head contact
PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:57 pm 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: Mar 22 2007
Posts: 30348
Suddenly lots of outrage about this in east hull and the media following last night's game. I'm not a fan of it but players have been doing it all season so I'm not sure why it's suddenly a hot topic. I'm pretty sure we got a couple of cards in the first Derby when Dobbins players stayed down after contact so I guess what goes around comes around.

For me there should be constant review of what is happening by the video ref and if any foul play he should tell the match ref who can stop the game and go back and deal with it. It would stop players needing to stay down if they felt some contact.

The other side of the coin is if there is head contact then it's foul play, whether or jot we agree with the player staying down. It's only not penalised in the first instance if the officials don't see it. It's just the rules being applied whether or not we agree with the rules. Any contact with the head is a penalty. If there is force it's a card. I don't really see what the issue is for the Dobbins fans






The poor man's bonaire

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Staying down after head contact
PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 10:03 pm 
Player Coach
International Star

Joined: Nov 19 2008
Posts: 5373
For all the criticism Tomlinson gets from the East side for peddling pro FC news, Shaw is just as bad for KR.

Find it bizarre that, as you say it's gone on all season, but Matt Shaw decides to publish an article the week Rovers lose about the 'gamesmanship' going on currently.

Little Willie has a cry and the media are all over it.

The coaches need to come together in ore season and have a proper sit down with the RLF going into next season. Failing that the RFL and refs need to use the green cards more next season.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Staying down after head contact
PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 10:05 pm 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: Mar 22 2007
Posts: 30348
I'm not a fan 9f the green card for head knocks as it penalises genuine ones. For me, if you stay down after a hit to the head, especially if it results in a card, it should be amandatory HIA






The poor man's bonaire

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Staying down after head contact
PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 10:47 pm 
Moderator
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Jan 30 2004
Posts: 8180
Location: Never never land away with the fairies
Strange how Shaw has so far failed to pick up on the issue of staying down when the likes of Lewis, Parcell and even Minchella have all been guilty of this very thing throughout the season so far.

For me the only way to stop this is if a player goes down and the game is stopped for a period of time then they go off for a mandatory 5 mins. This may seem harsh for genuine injuries/knocks but feel it will lead to players cutting out the gamesmanship that seems to have crept in the last few seasons. Much like the numerous penalties awarded when players ptb on an opposing player intentionally.






I really enjoy long walks especially when they are taken by people I don't like!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Staying down after head contact
PostPosted: Sun Sep 08, 2024 11:18 am 
Fringe Player
Fringe Player
User avatar

Joined: Sep 02 2023
Posts: 813
Also noticed on Fri night that Wilkin was nearly frothing at the mouth about it as well….arguably biggest game of the season,and the put Wilkin on who played for Rovers and Sts and let his bias shine through

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Staying down after head contact
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:18 am 
Club Owner
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Jan 30 2004
Posts: 4396
Location: Posh Bransholme
Chris71 wrote:Strange how Shaw has so far failed to pick up on the issue of staying down when the likes of Lewis, Parcell and even Minchella have all been guilty of this very thing throughout the season so far.

For me the only way to stop this is if a player goes down and the game is stopped for a period of time then they go off for a mandatory 5 mins. This may seem harsh for genuine injuries/knocks but feel it will lead to players cutting out the gamesmanship that seems to have crept in the last few seasons. Much like the numerous penalties awarded when players ptb on an opposing player intentionally.


They've had the rub of the green all season, plus their players have stayed down a few times this season but on Friday it didn't go their way, all of a sudden the games corrupt. :lol:






Always the Optimist never the Pessimist. Glass Half full not half empty man me.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Staying down after head contact
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:26 am 
International Star
Club Captain

Joined: Jan 13 2012
Posts: 3065
This is an issue that isnt creeping in, its fully crept in already, games being spoiled because of this issue yet here on the cabbage patch you just wanna turn it into a Hull and Rovers thing.
Maybe we should turn a blind eye and laugh when its our neighbours that get affected,

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Staying down after head contact
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 9:36 am 
Club Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Jan 15 2005
Posts: 12415
Location: Hull
This has all come about because of the soft rule changes , Like others have mentioned , Needs clamping down on and It needs addressing in the off season .

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Staying down after head contact
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:23 am 
Player Coach
First Team Player
User avatar

Joined: May 02 2010
Posts: 1462
Location: Playing League on The Close
Rovers fans need to have a bit of perspective.

Their players often wave their hands at the PTB hoping to get a penalty in their favour. Their fans screaming ‘Forward’’ at every opportunity trying to influence the referee into awarding a scrum. However, when they get a marginal decision against them, like last Friday, they are in uproar.

You can’t have it both ways. All club’s get decisions against them at some point, sometimes it affects a game more than at other times, but we all get them (Nu Brown’s sending off at Warrington; Chris Green’s ‘onside’ at Magic; and Dobsons ‘Dan Marino’ forward pass at Magic etc…)

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Staying down after head contact
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 11:05 am 
Player Coach
Fringe Player
User avatar

Joined: Apr 29 2010
Posts: 581
Location: In two minds
bishops finger wrote:This is an issue that isnt creeping in, its fully crept in already, games being spoiled because of this issue yet here on the cabbage patch you just wanna turn it into a Hull and Rovers thing.
Maybe we should turn a blind eye and laugh when its our neighbours that get affected,

It's turned into a Hull and Rovers thing because this is a Hull FC forum and your coach, having been on the receiving end of a few 50/50's for a change, has chosen to have a moan about it. Last time I looked Peters was the KR coach which means FC fans will comment on Rovers players and their antics.
Having seen a few of your games I would consider your players to have been as guilty of doing the very things he moaned about in equal measures to other teams.

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next





It is currently Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:11 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Dave K., FoD FC Army, Google Adsense [Bot], hullandbroncos, Maninasuitcase, Marcus's Bicycle, pepos and 246 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Sun Nov 24, 2024 1:11 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63240
4m
Film game
Boss Hog
5672
7m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40747
30m
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
36m
Ground Improvements
Big lads mat
163
42m
2025 merchandise
FIL
16
Recent
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5584
Recent
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
27
Recent
2025 Shirt
Choc Ice
19
Recent
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Salford
Uncle Rico
20
1m
War of the Roses
sally cinnam
35
2m
Fixtures 2025
Jake the Peg
69
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40747
3m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
3m
Dual Reg
financialtim
10
4m
Its all gone a bit quiet
orangeman
22
4m
Other Championship Clubs
FIL
418
4m
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
6m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
27
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
27
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Uncle Rico
20
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
928
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
579
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1309
England's Women Demolish The W..
1141
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1373
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1168
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1423
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1970
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2175
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2416
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1986
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2223
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2693
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2118
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2187
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
3m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63240
4m
Film game
Boss Hog
5672
7m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40747
30m
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
36m
Ground Improvements
Big lads mat
163
42m
2025 merchandise
FIL
16
Recent
Shopping list for 2025
Dave K.
5584
Recent
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
27
Recent
2025 Shirt
Choc Ice
19
Recent
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Salford
Uncle Rico
20
1m
War of the Roses
sally cinnam
35
2m
Fixtures 2025
Jake the Peg
69
2m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40747
3m
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
3m
Dual Reg
financialtim
10
4m
Its all gone a bit quiet
orangeman
22
4m
Other Championship Clubs
FIL
418
4m
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
6m
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
27
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
27
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Uncle Rico
20
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
928
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
579
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1309
England's Women Demolish The W..
1141
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1373
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1168
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1423
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1970
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2175
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2416
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1986
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2223
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2693
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2118
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2187


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.