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 Post subject: Re: Doncaster away
PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 6:10 pm 
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Tony Fax wrote:Too right, Listenup, actual facts do matter, like Luke Robinson becoming Fax coach! Just saying :wink: :D


I’m still waiting for you to turn up with your shotgun , what happened?

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 Post subject: Re: Doncaster away
PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 6:17 pm 
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Greg Florimos Boots wrote:Everything is going to differ depending on who you hear it from and the reality usually ends up been somewhere in the middle. Im willing to bet money that there are some players who thought Grix was a fantastic coach but I know for certain there are some experienced players who were here in his time that thought he was a terible coach, just one example although there are plenty more, ask QLT what he thinks of Grix as a person and a coach and I would bet its polar opposite to what someone like say Ben Tibbs thinks of him. Similar I'm sure there might be people out there who thought our new BOD did a great job, afterall we were told on here by some how good it were going to be with the new regime. I think its fair to say now that a lot of us disagree with that but it is just opinions.


But some people only state things heard directly from the source who were there when it happened with an opinion based on that.

Other people with pre conceived opinions state things according to their bias.

Still others have a grudge and on QLT I know what his was and it’s pretty simple, namely Simon Grix chose Scot Grix instead of him.

Of the above 3 options choose for yourself which one is the most reliable to base any opinion on and the type of person that uses their opinion to constantly slag someone else off behind their backs.


I for one don’t post what I don’t know or if I do I say so and at least try and check the accuracy first.

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 Post subject: Re: Doncaster away
PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 6:47 pm 
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faxcar wrote:
Still others have a grudge and on QLT I know what his was and it’s pretty simple, namely Simon Grix chose Scot Grix instead of him.



Unfortunatley this was a common theme over his tenure as coach as his favoritism cost us multiple good players, many who do not hold a good opinion of him but should their opinion count because it could be looked at as though they hold a grudge against him or is that just sport?

I mean we could have had a pack that had Doro(lets not forget he never got a real go long before what he were accused of, but again maybe Grix didn't do his homework on his character?), Springer, and Gwaze and ended up with a pack that would have been feared in this divsion but instead we ended up with a pack that could not break its way out of a wet paper bag. Do I blame Grix for that? 100% I do. Would this season have been as bad if Grix had of stayed thats the question? My opinion is that Grix may have been too stubborn to change things and by the time he did it may have been too late. Its all hear say but ive seen or heard nothing from the situation from Hull that makes me think him not been at Fax is a mistake.

Again going back to coaches running their course with teams and I thought that was very much the case with Grix and it was very similar to the Richard Marshall situation and you had a few saying he would go on to be a fantastic coach in SL but we all know that didn't happen but he is for certain a really good assistant coach and maybe that is what will happen to Grix and hopefully he does really well, its just been a first team coach is not for everyone.







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 Post subject: Re: Doncaster away
PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 7:30 pm 
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Greg Florimos Boots wrote:Unfortunatley this was a common theme over his tenure as coach as his favoritism cost us multiple good players, many who do not hold a good opinion of him but should their opinion count because it could be looked at as though they hold a grudge against him or is that just sport?

I mean we could have had a pack that had Doro(lets not forget he never got a real go long before what he were accused of, but again maybe Grix didn't do his homework on his character?), Springer, and Gwaze and ended up with a pack that would have been feared in this divsion but instead we ended up with a pack that could not break its way out of a wet paper bag. Do I blame Grix for that? 100% I do. Would this season have been as bad if Grix had of stayed thats the question? My opinion is that Grix may have been too stubborn to change things and by the time he did it may have been too late. Its all hear say but ive seen or heard nothing from the situation from Hull that makes me think him not been at Fax is a mistake.

Again going back to coaches running their course with teams and I thought that was very much the case with Grix and it was very similar to the Richard Marshall situation and you had a few saying he would go on to be a fantastic coach in SL but we all know that didn't happen but he is for certain a really good assistant coach and maybe that is what will happen to Grix and hopefully he does really well, its just been a first team coach is not for everyone.


Gwaze asked for too much money during a short spell of form and also banned for 8 games .

Springer was removed for questioning the authority of the coach after being called out for being lazy in defence.

Doro stole from a fellow player and shortly after his transfer to Bradford deliberately smashed miles lawfords teeth out during a training session.

Grix made the right decisions imo .

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 Post subject: Re: Doncaster away
PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:06 pm 
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Greg Florimos Boots wrote:Unfortunatley this was a common theme over his tenure as coach as his favoritism cost us multiple good players, many who do not hold a good opinion of him but should their opinion count because it could be looked at as though they hold a grudge against him or is that just sport?

I mean we could have had a pack that had Doro(lets not forget he never got a real go long before what he were accused of, but again maybe Grix didn't do his homework on his character?), Springer, and Gwaze and ended up with a pack that would have been feared in this divsion but instead we ended up with a pack that could not break its way out of a wet paper bag. Do I blame Grix for that? 100% I do. Would this season have been as bad if Grix had of stayed thats the question? My opinion is that Grix may have been too stubborn to change things and by the time he did it may have been too late. Its all hear say but ive seen or heard nothing from the situation from Hull that makes me think him not been at Fax is a mistake.

Again going back to coaches running their course with teams and I thought that was very much the case with Grix and it was very similar to the Richard Marshall situation and you had a few saying he would go on to be a fantastic coach in SL but we all know that didn't happen but he is for certain a really good assistant coach and maybe that is what will happen to Grix and hopefully he does really well, its just been a first team coach is not for everyone.


I’ll tell you where there is a common theme.

Your opinion is based on not rating Grix from day one before he had even started running his course it didn’t start 3 or 4 years afterwards and still continues to this day and your posts are based on trying to proof that you were right from day one the bulk of them based on the original biased opinion with no factual support it’s almost like an obsession.

Yes we could have had a pack with Springer, Doro, Gwaze and King if taking them in that order they would have done what was being asked, trained like the rest of the squad, had been offered a huge pay increase that would have made him the highest payed player at the club and didn’t have a girl friend who was still living in Cumbria at the time.

On the other hand if you think allowing players to refuse to do what their asked, not train as hard but still get picked ahead of those fighting for the same position who train their butts off, break the bank and somehow sort out their personal affairs so their minds are fully on the job is the way to do things then as before go and do it then and see how far you get.

Because that’s what was happening and what Grix had to sort out along with the rest of it which is a lot harder to do than sitting in an armchair.


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 Post subject: Re: Doncaster away
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 Post subject: Re: Doncaster away
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faxcar wrote:
On the other hand if you think allowing players to refuse to do what their asked, not train as hard but still get picked ahead of those fighting for the same position who train their butts off, break the bank and somehow sort out their personal affairs so their minds are fully on the job is the way to do things then as before go and do it then and see how far you get.



It would be a lot higher than 10th. The sad facts of sport at a high level that simply giving 100% and trying hard is not enough for some players. Managing the players who have the talent but are not putting the effort in is a huge part of coaching.







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 Post subject: Re: Doncaster away
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 7:54 am 
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Greg Florimos Boots wrote:It would be a lot higher than 10th. The sad facts of sport at a high level that simply giving 100% and trying hard is not enough for some players. Managing the players who have the talent but are not putting the effort in is a huge part of coaching.

In your dreams it would be but I don't recall seeing your name on the applicants list or did you think after listening to you on here they should have called you :?:

On coaching and managing players the facts of sport at any level are if and when a player and coach don't see eye to eye ( which does happen, in fact it has even happen to me on more than one occasion but I was always the one who didn't get picked or had to leave and it wasn't quietly :lol: ) the coach should have the final say, why, because the coach is thinking about the team and the squad the player is thinking about himself and on the latter point I'm sure you will understand.

Incidentally, how much managing / coaching of players have you done at any level in the past or recently more importantly in the modern game ?

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 Post subject: Re: Doncaster away
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:10 am 
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Listenup94 wrote:Gwaze asked for too much money during a short spell of form and also banned for 8 games .

Springer was removed for questioning the authority of the coach after being called out for being lazy in defence.

Doro stole from a fellow player and shortly after his transfer to Bradford deliberately smashed miles lawfords teeth out during a training session.

Grix made the right decisions imo .

Add King and the common theme is any forward that can make a difference on the pitch causes issues off it any gets moved on..we're now stuck with a dearth of ordinary forwards who cause no problems off the pitch and even less to the opponents on matchday.. 8).Anyway if we're not paying the players we do have now,the emphasis changes again..

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 Post subject: Re: Doncaster away
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:49 am 
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Miserybusiness wrote:Add King and the common theme is any forward that can make a difference on the pitch causes issues off it any gets moved on..we're now stuck with a dearth of ordinary forwards who cause no problems off the pitch and even less to the opponents on matchday.. 8).Anyway if we're not paying the players we do have now,the emphasis changes again..

Keep up, as with all the others King’s issue has already been explained several times ever since he left and again just a couple of posts up.

After a years grace of holding the poison chalice he’s now holding the cup and the challenge is for Finn to bring in the players to change things, if we survive that is.

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