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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Murphy
PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 2:05 pm 
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Willzay wrote:Well Pitts and Hood have also only been playing against championship opposition. And our forward pack did struggle massively last year, it’s partly why we finished bottom. Won’t forget that try Cas scored from OUR play the ball because Hood was too slow.

Also is it any wonder we started slipping lower and lower down the league because we kept signing players from relegated teams. Our pack got worse from the 2017/18 teams.

I put Pitts and Hood in the same bracket as Kay and Ashurst, they’ll be decent for top end championship clubs but will struggle now in SL.

You do not start complaining about the players that's my job lol But got to admit your bang on and it's a good post

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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Murphy
PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 2:22 pm 
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Pitt’s hood olpherts griffin could all do a job next year as squad players , saying they’ve got better on the face of it is true. but it is largely down to the opposition and the dominance of the team around them.

We probably will extend a couple of them to make the squad up and I have no problem with that. however not one of them will have a starting 1-13 shirt. They’ve all had and are having a great season but we are strengthening the squad significantly in virtually every area and if we wish to compete we need to.

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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Murphy
PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:53 pm 
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Kirmudgeonlyisback wrote:Pitt’s hood olpherts griffin could all do a job next year as squad players , saying they’ve got better on the face of it is true. but it is largely down to the opposition and the dominance of the team around them.

We probably will extend a couple of them to make the squad up and I have no problem with that. however not one of them will have a starting 1-13 shirt. They’ve all had and are having a great season but we are strengthening the squad significantly in virtually every area and if we wish to compete we need to.


Pitts (need that experienced head after losing Ashurst and Bowden and he’d be it though play less minutes) would and Hood (Smith needs another season before he’s ready) but the rest I agree would be more squad and rotation players. All of these mentioned though will be very short 1 year only if needed I suspect.

Sometimes as PT alluded to it’s not about if they’re good enough. It may be that they’re the best available in the short term.






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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Murphy
PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:30 am 
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Lewis Murphy has signed a two year contract with St Helens. Confirmed by Saints today

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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Murphy
PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:38 am 
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Dr Dreadnought wrote:Lewis Murphy has signed a two year contract with St Helens. Confirmed by Saints today


Shame that is. Would have liked to have seen him back at Trinity.

That said I think TJ and Walmsley will be excellent next season as a wing pairing.






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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Murphy
PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 11:45 am 
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Ian Horse wrote:
Shame that is. Would hav[fimg=]
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That said I think TJ and Walmsley will be excellent next season as a wing pairing.


I liked Murphy but his heart was never at Wakefield.
The club is bigger than him in my opinion and yes; tJ and LW will do for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Murphy
PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:21 pm 
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1315trinity wrote:I liked Murphy but his heart was never at Wakefield.
The club is bigger than him in my opinion and yes; tJ and LW will do for me.


That’s not what I was saying. I don’t think anyone would ever suggest a player is bigger than the club.

I don’t know Murphy personally or are privy to players opinions or thoughts of the club like you to say that his heart was never at the club. I never saw anything short of bags of effort from the lad though.

I’m happy with what we got but Murphy would have been a good signing and no doubt will be a good signing for saints.






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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Murphy
PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:26 pm 
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Trojan Horse wrote:Shame that is. Would have liked to have seen him back at Trinity.

That said I think TJ and Walmsley will be excellent next season as a wing pairing.


Agreed TH, wonder if we ever made an offer to him?

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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Murphy
PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 12:33 pm 
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1315trinity wrote:I liked Murphy but his heart was never at Wakefield.
The club is bigger than him in my opinion and yes; tJ and LW will do for me.



Completely disagree with your statement about his heart not being at Wakefield. I cannot think of one single game he played for us where he gave less than his best, he was a young inexperienced player who got thrown into SL far earlier and more frequently than was ideal, but he took his opportunity with both hands. He may have had ambitions we weren't able to fulfil but to say his heart wasn't in it is just wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Lewis Murphy
PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2024 1:08 pm 
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Dr Dreadnought wrote:Completely disagree with your statement about his heart not being at Wakefield. I cannot think of one single game he played for us where he gave less than his best, he was a young inexperienced player who got thrown into SL far earlier and more frequently than was ideal, but he took his opportunity with both hands. He may have had ambitions we weren't able to fulfil but to say his heart wasn't in it is just wrong.


Whether you agree with my comments or not is water off a ducks back to me!
I agree he gave 100% while playing.
I really mean that after his injury he was looked after for months by the club but then opted to change clubs..had his heart been at Trinity perhaps he would have wanted to stay?
I don't dislike the lad for that and I wish him well but he chose to leave and far more exciting things have been happening this season for me to even think about Lewis Murphy.
Just my opinion!

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