FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

  

Home Warrington Wolves Tonight’s game v Leeds



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 87 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 5, 6, 7, 8, 9  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Tonight’s game v Leeds
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:52 am 
Player Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Jun 25 2006
Posts: 14101
Location: Forum21
Chris McKean wrote:I'm getting Sita vibes from Musgrove. Comes on for 10-15mins most matches and offers very little.



Seems Sam disagrees with you.


Zane Musgrove’s longer minutes
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wa ... fitzgibbon

Musgrove has played in 18 of Warrington’s 21 games in Super League this season: and the former Samoa international has played longer minutes in recent weeks than what we’re used to seeing from him in a primrose and blue jersey thus far.

“I think he’s been great,” Burgess said of Musgrove.

“I’ve been trying to get him a few more minutes, I wanted to see him in that zone of fatigue and see how he managed it but he’s been great.

“I think he’s played a lot for us, I think he’s only missed four or five games so he’s been pretty consistent for us.”
Chris McKean wrote:I'm getting Sita vibes from Musgrove. Comes on for 10-15mins most matches and offers very little.



Seems Sam disagrees with you.


Zane Musgrove’s longer minutes
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wa ... fitzgibbon

Musgrove has played in 18 of Warrington’s 21 games in Super League this season: and the former Samoa international has played longer minutes in recent weeks than what we’re used to seeing from him in a primrose and blue jersey thus far.

“I think he’s been great,” Burgess said of Musgrove.

“I’ve been trying to get him a few more minutes, I wanted to see him in that zone of fatigue and see how he managed it but he’s been great.

“I think he’s played a lot for us, I think he’s only missed four or five games so he’s been pretty consistent for us.”

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Tonight’s game v Leeds
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:44 am 
Player Coach
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: Mar 26 2009
Posts: 3000
Team selection for next week, will be giving Burgess some food for thought. Would you rotate the middles, freshen up the pack. With Vaughan having a week off maybe. It’s now becoming to a point in the season where you’d want everyone fit and in form, that includes the fringe players.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Tonight’s game v Leeds
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:12 am 
Player Coach
Player Coach

Joined: Apr 09 2010
Posts: 12927
Location: The Moon
Bobby Digital wrote:Team selection for next week, will be giving Burgess some food for thought. Would you rotate the middles, freshen up the pack. With Vaughan having a week off maybe. It’s now becoming to a point in the season where you’d want everyone fit and in form, that includes the fringe players.


Normally I would say yes but with it looking like points difference coming in to it I’d go strong. Only change I’m thinking of is Dufty he was still limping at the end of the game. Rather him fitter for Leigh

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Tonight’s game v Leeds
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 12:29 pm 
Club Owner
Club Captain

Joined: Apr 09 2004
Posts: 4111
We definitely need to find a rest for Dufty, it would be a disaster for him to be burned out and get injured before the playoffs. Thewlis or Taylor-Wray are more than worthy cover options at FB.






Darlings of Super League

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Tonight’s game v Leeds
PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 12:42 pm 
Moderator
Moderator

Joined: Mar 01 2002
Posts: 39713
just_browny wrote:We definitely need to find a rest for Dufty, it would be a disaster for him to be burned out and get injured before the playoffs. Thewlis or Taylor-Wray are more than worthy cover options at FB.

Should be giving thewlis the option to play dufty style with williams, be better to give him some reps now than be forced into it mid game following an injury

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Tonight’s game v Leeds
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 10:01 am 
Player Coach
Academy Player
User avatar

Joined: May 31 2005
Posts: 296
Location: Warrington
Wires71 wrote:Seems Sam disagrees with you.


Zane Musgrove’s longer minutes
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wa ... fitzgibbon

Musgrove has played in 18 of Warrington’s 21 games in Super League this season: and the former Samoa international has played longer minutes in recent weeks than what we’re used to seeing from him in a primrose and blue jersey thus far.

“I think he’s been great,” Burgess said of Musgrove.

“I’ve been trying to get him a few more minutes, I wanted to see him in that zone of fatigue and see how he managed it but he’s been great.

“I think he’s played a lot for us, I think he’s only missed four or five games so he’s been pretty consistent for us.”


These are some stats from his last 6 matches. So he averaged 23mins per match. I'm not sure how that is him getting more minutes. He played 40mins in the London match but looks like he took it easy to allow himself to be on for that long, seeing as he only took 8 carries in.

Leeds - 14mins
11 carries
63 metres
14 tackles

London - 40mins
8 carries
74 metres
20 tackles

Hull KR - 14mins
3 carries
22 metres
13 tackles


Wigan - 22mins
9 carries
62 metres
10 tackles

Saints - 20mins
5 carries
24 metres
13 tackles


Leeds - 32mins
8 carries
72 metres
15 tackles
Wires71 wrote:Seems Sam disagrees with you.


Zane Musgrove’s longer minutes
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/wa ... fitzgibbon

Musgrove has played in 18 of Warrington’s 21 games in Super League this season: and the former Samoa international has played longer minutes in recent weeks than what we’re used to seeing from him in a primrose and blue jersey thus far.

“I think he’s been great,” Burgess said of Musgrove.

“I’ve been trying to get him a few more minutes, I wanted to see him in that zone of fatigue and see how he managed it but he’s been great.

“I think he’s played a lot for us, I think he’s only missed four or five games so he’s been pretty consistent for us.”


These are some stats from his last 6 matches. So he averaged 23mins per match. I'm not sure how that is him getting more minutes. He played 40mins in the London match but looks like he took it easy to allow himself to be on for that long, seeing as he only took 8 carries in.

Leeds - 14mins
11 carries
63 metres
14 tackles

London - 40mins
8 carries
74 metres
20 tackles

Hull KR - 14mins
3 carries
22 metres
13 tackles


Wigan - 22mins
9 carries
62 metres
10 tackles

Saints - 20mins
5 carries
24 metres
13 tackles


Leeds - 32mins
8 carries
72 metres
15 tackles






--
Cheers

Chris

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Tonight’s game v Leeds
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 10:44 am 
International Star
Club Captain

Joined: Apr 09 2015
Posts: 2973
Chris McKean wrote:These are some stats from his last 6 matches. So he averaged 23mins per match. I'm not sure how that is him getting more minutes. He played 40mins in the London match but looks like he took it easy to allow himself to be on for that long, seeing as he only took 8 carries in.

Leeds - 14mins
11 carries
63 metres
14 tackles

London - 40mins
8 carries
74 metres
20 tackles

Hull KR - 14mins
3 carries
22 metres
13 tackles


Wigan - 22mins
9 carries
62 metres
10 tackles

Saints - 20mins
5 carries
24 metres
13 tackles


Leeds - 32mins
8 carries
72 metres
15 tackles


Out of interest where do you find the minutes per game? Superleague site doesn't show that right?

He's our 4th best prop IMO, Vaughan, Harrison & Yates are all more than capable of being 50 - 60 minute props, so his game time will be limited given we only have 2* 80 minutes worth of prop time in a game. He's dong the job that's being asked of him - and Burgess seems pretty happy with him.

I was probably expecting a little more from him to be honest, but he's still ahead of Philbin and Wood for me in the pecking order, but they are on his heels.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Tonight’s game v Leeds
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 12:44 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach
User avatar

Joined: Jun 25 2006
Posts: 14101
Location: Forum21
Chris McKean wrote:These are some stats from his last 6 matches. So he averaged 23mins per match. I'm not sure how that is him getting more minutes. He played 40mins in the London match but looks like he took it easy to allow himself to be on for that long, seeing as he only took 8 carries in.

Leeds - 14mins
11 carries
63 metres
14 tackles

London - 40mins
8 carries
74 metres
20 tackles

Hull KR - 14mins
3 carries
22 metres
13 tackles


Wigan - 22mins
9 carries
62 metres
10 tackles

Saints - 20mins
5 carries
24 metres
13 tackles


Leeds - 32mins
8 carries
72 metres
15 tackles


I would agree with you. Those stats are not ripping up any trees are they. The stats here (https://www.superleague.co.uk/player/1901/zane-musgrove) are not much better save for a 8.17 AG.
Chris McKean wrote:These are some stats from his last 6 matches. So he averaged 23mins per match. I'm not sure how that is him getting more minutes. He played 40mins in the London match but looks like he took it easy to allow himself to be on for that long, seeing as he only took 8 carries in.

Leeds - 14mins
11 carries
63 metres
14 tackles

London - 40mins
8 carries
74 metres
20 tackles

Hull KR - 14mins
3 carries
22 metres
13 tackles


Wigan - 22mins
9 carries
62 metres
10 tackles

Saints - 20mins
5 carries
24 metres
13 tackles


Leeds - 32mins
8 carries
72 metres
15 tackles


I would agree with you. Those stats are not ripping up any trees are they. The stats here (https://www.superleague.co.uk/player/1901/zane-musgrove) are not much better save for a 8.17 AG.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Tonight’s game v Leeds
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 12:53 pm 
Player Coach
International Star
User avatar

Joined: Apr 01 2010
Posts: 9883
Location: Warrington
Well it looks like Dufty is definitely out for this week. Having a scan this week, club don't think it's to serious.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Tonight’s game v Leeds
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 2:56 pm 
Player Coach
Academy Player
User avatar

Joined: May 31 2005
Posts: 296
Location: Warrington
Alffi_7 wrote:Out of interest where do you find the minutes per game? Superleague site doesn't show that right?

He's our 4th best prop IMO, Vaughan, Harrison & Yates are all more than capable of being 50 - 60 minute props, so his game time will be limited given we only have 2* 80 minutes worth of prop time in a game. He's dong the job that's being asked of him - and Burgess seems pretty happy with him.

I was probably expecting a little more from him to be honest, but he's still ahead of Philbin and Wood for me in the pecking order, but they are on his heels.


I watch every game and for some reason when people have been subbed and come on usually sticks in my head. So i just quickly scanned the games to make sure my timings were about right and corrected where needs be. As you say, the superleague site doesn't show it. Sometimes it doesn't even show a sub on the events section which is pretty poor but about what you'd expect from RL.

I'd defiantly have Wood ahead of Musgrove. Philbin is a tougher decision. I'd compare Max Woods stats but again RL shows it's amateur make up because his name doesn't appear on the player stats page for the matches he played in. He doesn't even have a profile on our team page on the site even though he's been a first team player since mid last season.






--
Cheers

Chris

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 87 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 5, 6, 7, 8, 9  Next





It is currently Sat Nov 09, 2024 7:03 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Belle Vue, FGB, hooligan, Wolves17 and 101 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Sat Nov 09, 2024 7:03 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
29m
IMG
Belle Vue
77
32m
War of the Roses
matt_wire
16
51m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2544
52m
Film game
Boss Hog
5149
59m
Ground Improvements
Slugger McBa
123
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Irregular Ho
3697
Recent
Planning for next season
Cokey
170
Recent
Recruitment rumours and links
karetaker
3510
Recent
Paladin Sports
orangeman
5
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Squad contract dates
Trojan Horse
12
3m
Rhinos Ladies
Swoggy Loine
7
3m
IMG
Belle Vue
77
4m
Film game
Boss Hog
5149
4m
Memorable Games
Faithful One
8
4m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2505
5m
Paladin Sports
orangeman
5
5m
War of the Roses
matt_wire
16
6m
Pre Season - 2025
giddyupoldfe
119
6m
2025 Season tickets
AgbriggAmble
174
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Will Brough gone
vastman
2
TODAY
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Azul
8
TODAY
Rhinos Ladies
Swoggy Loine
7
TODAY
Squad contract dates
Trojan Horse
12
TODAY
Paladin Sports
orangeman
5
TODAY
Magic Weekend
Wollo-Wollo-
2
TODAY
War of the Roses
matt_wire
16
TODAY
Dual Reg
PopTart
2
TODAY
Vagana
Scarlet Pimp
10
TODAY
2025 Kit
Wigan Bull
6
TODAY
2025 merchandise
18th Man
12
TODAY
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Smithers99
7
TODAY
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
17
TODAY
England Beat Samoa To Take Test Series
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
TODAY
Englands Women Demolish The Welsh
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Big lads mat
9
TODAY
2025 Shirt
The Whiffy K
11
TODAY
Home Shirt 2025
MattyB
1
TODAY
Uele contract extension
Khlav Kalash
5
TODAY
Squad for Match 2 v Samoa
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Boss Hog
11
TODAY
Sky tv deals
karetaker
7
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 1
Fantastic Mr
29
TODAY
New Kit
karetaker
62
TODAY
Memorable Games
Faithful One
8
TODAY
Hybrid rugby
moto748
11
TODAY
Pre Season - 2025
giddyupoldfe
119
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
611
England's Women Demolish The W..
550
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
855
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
663
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
947
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1440
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1676
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
1944
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1527
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1792
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2162
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1723
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1808
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1943
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2119
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024 3 England M34-16Samoa M
WINT2024 2 ENGLAND W82-0WALES W
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
29m
IMG
Belle Vue
77
32m
War of the Roses
matt_wire
16
51m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2544
52m
Film game
Boss Hog
5149
59m
Ground Improvements
Slugger McBa
123
Recent
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Irregular Ho
3697
Recent
Planning for next season
Cokey
170
Recent
Recruitment rumours and links
karetaker
3510
Recent
Paladin Sports
orangeman
5
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Squad contract dates
Trojan Horse
12
3m
Rhinos Ladies
Swoggy Loine
7
3m
IMG
Belle Vue
77
4m
Film game
Boss Hog
5149
4m
Memorable Games
Faithful One
8
4m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2505
5m
Paladin Sports
orangeman
5
5m
War of the Roses
matt_wire
16
6m
Pre Season - 2025
giddyupoldfe
119
6m
2025 Season tickets
AgbriggAmble
174
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Will Brough gone
vastman
2
TODAY
The Brick Stadium ownership update
Azul
8
TODAY
Rhinos Ladies
Swoggy Loine
7
TODAY
Squad contract dates
Trojan Horse
12
TODAY
Paladin Sports
orangeman
5
TODAY
Magic Weekend
Wollo-Wollo-
2
TODAY
War of the Roses
matt_wire
16
TODAY
Dual Reg
PopTart
2
TODAY
Vagana
Scarlet Pimp
10
TODAY
2025 Kit
Wigan Bull
6
TODAY
2025 merchandise
18th Man
12
TODAY
NBR Does Smithers have a hangover
Smithers99
7
TODAY
Its all gone a bit quiet
BigTime
17
TODAY
England Beat Samoa To Take Test Series
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
McMeekan
Trojan Horse
13
TODAY
Englands Women Demolish The Welsh
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Lee Kershaw
Big lads mat
9
TODAY
2025 Shirt
The Whiffy K
11
TODAY
Home Shirt 2025
MattyB
1
TODAY
Uele contract extension
Khlav Kalash
5
TODAY
Squad for Match 2 v Samoa
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 2
Boss Hog
11
TODAY
Sky tv deals
karetaker
7
TODAY
2024/25 out of season mind occupier 1
Fantastic Mr
29
TODAY
New Kit
karetaker
62
TODAY
Memorable Games
Faithful One
8
TODAY
Hybrid rugby
moto748
11
TODAY
Pre Season - 2025
giddyupoldfe
119
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
611
England's Women Demolish The W..
550
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
855
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
663
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
947
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1440
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
1676
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
1944
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1527
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
1792
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2162
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
1723
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
1808
Hull KR Survive Warrington Fig..
1943
Warrington Wolves Break Saints..
2119


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.